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  1. On 12/17/2021 at 2:32 AM, Elsalvajeloco said:

    Re: Sam Bowie

    It's funny because for some reason I've been thinking about the Bobby Knight quote around the 1984 NBA draft for the past few days. This goes especially since Johnny Flynn, a player who was drafted before Steph Curry, was trending when Steph broke Ray Allen's 3 pt record the other night. FYI this is the quote:

    So yeah. However, IMO, NBA is also a crap shoot but at the other end of the spectrum. People knew Jordan was going to be good and possibly a franchise player but they didn't know he was going to be otherworldly to the point where he was an icon less than ten years into his NBA career. People thought Steph Curry was going to be a good player but NO ONE saw greatest shooter in the history of the NBA out of DAVIDSON. People thought Kevin Durant was going to be good but not perennial #1 or #2 player in the league for several years and basically an unstoppable monster. The ceiling, especially in an era with less physicality, is so high now. 

    If some of those busts like a Sam Bowie or even more recently Kwame Brown (where in hindsight he was put in an unwinnable situation) were in different drafts or different situations, they wouldn't be pariahs. As is, they're going to be forever attached to the players that ended up great or historically great and were drafted after them.

    In terms of pro wrestling, a similar situation would be like Alex Wright and Paul Levesque. People diss Bischoff (to be fair, Triple H always jokes with Eric about it so include him specifically as well) and WCW for taking and pushing the wrong guy when in actuality Levesque was going to be WWF bound ANYWAY.

    According to (Bruce) Prichard, they had put out feelers and reached out to Paul before he went to WCW. However, Paul had already agreed to work with WCW. Prichard told him to give them a call if it doesn't work out. Fortunately for all the parties involved, WCW signed him to a short deal and by the time he came in, Bischoff had more power beyond TV production. Bischoff was cutting expenses, which included eliminating "geographic undesirables". The undesirables would be anyone who was lower on the totem pole who didn't live in or around Atlanta or Orlando where they were doing regular TV tapings or within reasonable traveling distance where WCW wouldn't be hit with big costs. Levesque was one of the people on that list since he was still living in the Northeast and likely had no plans of relocating. Truthfully, Levesque really had no plans of being with WCW for long anyway and was just using that as a stepping stone to WWF. In the end, it worked out because Levesque ending up signing with WWF where folks were already in love with him and from literally his first day in March of 1995 he was being mentored and taken under the wing of the top guys like Hall, Nash, and Shawn Michaels. He was in a "too big to fail" position and made man from his first day in the company. Juxtapose that with Alex Wright who was coming from another country that hadn't really produced big time stars in the US in the modern, post WWF national expansion era at least and basically didn't have the support of the wrestlers in the back (see the Paul Roma PPV match from early in his run) due to being pushed so young. In addition, by the time he did improve in ring, that was when WCW was signing everyone and their mom (hell, literally because we ended up with the late Judy Bagwell getting signed lol) to sweet deals. He was going to get lost in the shuffle eventually. That has and will happen to a lot of talented folks in WWE and AEW today. That's the cruelty of the business sadly. How big of a star was Alex Wright going to be or suppose to be? He was a decent midcarder and had a solid run. Nothing to be ashamed of when you think about it.

    To me, when it comes to talent evaluation, I think it can be summed up somewhat succinctly by something I heard in an old Youtube interview or old shoot someone uploaded to Youtube. I think it came from like Jody Hamilton, Jesse Hernandez, and maybe even Dr. Tom Prichard. Either way, it was one of these respected old school wrestling trainers that have been around for awhile. Basically, it's that everyone whether it's an agent/producer/promoter/booker (that these trainers work under and give their honest critique about future talent to) is infatuated with "the look" and bringing in people who have "the look" that they feel their promotion can make tons of money off of. That's all fine and dandy. However, when the wrestlers with "the look" walk into one of these wrestling schools or developmental programs, it becomes clear who is who after they work with one of these trainers for about 8-12 weeks. With four out of ten wrestlers with "the look", they're going to work hard overall, ask where they can improve, work on their mechanics and promos, don't take criticism personally, adapt, etc. and develop something outside of "the look". The sentiment is once they get to the big show, you're (meaning one of the higher ups mentioned above) going to want to push them up the card. The other six of the ten wrestlers with "the look"? They're not going to do any of that shit, sit on their ass for the most part, rest on their laurels, don't give a damn about protecting the people they're in the ring with, and/or just show up when they feel like because they KNOW they have a big check waiting for them once they're done with the developmental phase of their career. The sentiment is once those wrestlers get to the big show and people have to endure their bullshit, the only push the folks in charge will want to give them is out of a fifth story window.

    Now every now and then, one of those six will eventually turn it around and through experiences or realizing they only have so many chances, they will get their shit together and contribute positively. And that's not even trying to eliminate the faults and the shortcomings of the promotion or the creative minds behind the promotion. However, AT BEST, it's 50/50. 

    Now this was a thorough, an insightful and well-written piece of analysis to go with my morning coffee! Thank you! I could read stuff like this for hours on end!

    As far as Alex Wright goes, once he turned heel in '97, he won the cruiser and TV titles in short order, and if you think about it, that's like a Chris Jericho or Ultimo Dragon trajectory, which in WCW would have been his ceiling at very best. So, no shame there, whatsoever!

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  2. 3 minutes ago, just drew said:

    If you’re referring to AEW having a long term future, I’d think that given how the respective owners feel about putting wrestling on tv, it’s more likely AEW is around in 10 years than wwe…

    No, I'm sure AEW will be around as long as there will be people watching...in general. I'm pretty sure there WILL be next 5 years, 10 might be pushing it, unfortunately.

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  3. And here's the actual update. Well-rested after last week's single workout, I decided to go full blast, since after this week, I get two whole weeks off from work. Monday started with a light but intense upperbody assault. I was able to do a few sets of ten pull-ups with bodyweight only. The right arm held up nicely, but I could feel it getting sore by the third set. Did reverse shrugs with bodyweight only between pull-up sets, then chest flies, lat pulldowns and push-downs with the resistance band. Other stuff included curls, shrugs and side and rear delts and abs

    Tuesday was the actual Trapbar workout. I did 8×224, 7x335, 6x434, 5x455, 3x478, 2x478, 4x455 and then a bunch of shrugs and abs.

    Wednesday was bench day, but I did the 2x490 and 2x501 on the trapbar since we found a new way to load the bar a few pounds more. Bench was as follows 3x132, 5x220, 5x242, 3x264, 1x275, 3x286, 3x264, 2x264, 7x242, 8x220, 10x198 and a 4 set 10 second rest-pause combo with 132: 25, 7, 5, 5 (so 42 in total). Shoulder work, curls and abs completes this day.

    Thursday. Since I didn't use extra weights on Monday, so I did dips and reverse shrugs here. 4 sets with 66 lbs, then one set each with 44 lbs, 22 lbs and bodyweight. I did dumbell rows with the 70 lb kettlebell, 3 sets of ten with each arm. After this, more shoulder work and curls, pushdowns and curls, then abs and that was that.

    Today was leg day 9 sets of squat machine in total. On top of the rack itself and two short resistance bands, I loaded the machine like so: 110, 220, 286, 330. I did 1 set with each weight until 330, did 3 sets with that and then one set each going back down. I did set of calf raises between each set once I hit 286 on the way up. On top of the usual ab stuff I did 3 sets with the power wheel for the first time in a good while.

    So, yeah. That was my workout year 2021, as it is very unlikely I'll be going to a gym for the next couple of weeks. Home workouts are not out of question, but I need to rest my body now and gain some mass for next year. If something happens, I'll tell you about it, as usual. Oh, and the entire week's soundtrack was Synthwave, Midnight Danger in particular, for most of it.

  4. Yeah, who ever is the champ when Ivy gets her first crack at it, they are going down!

    Bron is making this wrestling stuff look pretty simple. Look bad-ass, do bad-ass things, say bad-ass stuff and back it up. They have already given him a loss, so there's no "what then?". He's not really squashing anybody. He's having competitive matches and for the most part, coming out on top convincingly. Him being a star in NXT like this is a given, but if something similar would happen with him on the main roster, he might actually get over there, too. Then they will probably fire him, but he's got everything to make it!

  5. 3 hours ago, Tarheel Moneghetti said:

    Vince Russo thinks that Nick Khan & the Rock will eventually buy WWE.  That would be interesting, at least.

    Was a little surprised to see a photo of Nick Khan & Rock show up in my Twitter feed.  Apparently they're longtime friends - childhood, maybe? - and Khan's sister is one of Little Rock's producers.

    If you think HHH is miserable now, just wait when THIS happens. I fear for his heart if that ever comes to pass.

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  6. I'll put out a more detailed recap of my week, but I just wanted to inform that yesterday I cleared 500 lbs for the first time in a few years on Trapbar. I did 2x490 and 2x501 just because the other dude was doing it as well. My actual trapbar workout was the day before, so I just casually did that before I started my bench workout.

    Two more to go, today and Friday. These will most likely be my last two workouts this year.

    ...Dammit! I just figured out that was a calculation mistake and I actually did 2×479 and 2×491! We need to figure out how to actually get 10 more pounds onto the bar so I can correct this properly.

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  7. Just finished watching the one episode that ran for a few weeks on EuroSport. Some of the promotional stuff was edited out of that one and they squeezed in two more short matches that weren't on this version. Those were Jeff Jarrett vs Scott Taylor and Bob Holly vs George South (this wasn't the same match that I saw on an earlier episode on the previous batch). I wonder where those two matches came from? It is possible that the Holly match had JR on commentary, but I'm not sure.

  8. 22 hours ago, Gordlow said:

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    12 weeks into the diet, 1 week to go. Half a kilo above my goal weight. Down almost 15 kilos in 12 weeks. Under 100 kilos for the first time in years and years. 
    Plan is to maintain until Spring and try another fast and three months of dieting to see if I can get really lean.

    You can definitely see more definition around the bicep, delt, shoulder and trap area, as compared to the previous, similar photo! Way to go!

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  9. 5 hours ago, Archibald said:

    How is that supposed to work when Impact is running shows and RoH isn't?

    Does it have something to do with the fact that IF ROH comes back in 6 months, it has still been "dead" for a shorter time that IMPACT that has walked as a zombie/ in a vegetative state for several years now? Now, if ROH doesn't come back at all, then he's making no sense and is obviously talking out of his ass.

  10. 9 hours ago, Craig H said:

    How on earth did Taz, TAZ, of all people have a son that looks like a model? I have to assume he got everything from his mom's side. 

    That would be like a reverse Von Wagner, who got god knows what from his mom's side! A few folks also wondered how come Rick Steiner's kid can end up being so handsome, when he debuted.

  11. 24 minutes ago, D.Z said:

    Meltzer reported most of the WWE Talent no longer have a downside guarantee. You just get what your salary says and no money from merch, PPV's, whats left of house shows.

    The top stars are exceptions to above changes.

    Still all stars are making more money now.

    It's funny, because in the 80's and very early 90's, the "more money from merchandising" was one of the biggest reasons to join WWF! Of course, future stars probably won't come from other wrestling companies, so that wouldn't really apply anymore, anyway.

  12. 7 hours ago, DangerMark said:

    From what I hear Suzuki managed to do that to his own hair, nothing to do wiht Hybrid Wrestling.

    Yeah, that was due to still insisting on cutting his own hair despite smashing all the mirrors in his house, after seeing what Hybrid Wrestling had done to his ears and face, so you know, it still had something to do with it.

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  13. 4 hours ago, username said:

    I think this eventually does less to lower WWE's price but elevate what AEW is going to ask for in their next tv deal.

    Which would be a huge win for everyone involved, aside from the networks that end up airing WWE.

    Also, referring to Flip's "70% audience at 15% price", sometimes, although not very often, that one meme goes:

    - Mom, can we have WWE?

    - We have WWE at home.

    - The WWE at home: AEW

  14. 20 hours ago, Gorman said:

    Thoughts on Slamboree 94

    Terry Funk is the MVP for bringing his brand of hardcore wrestling to the entire show. First, he didn't come out with the parade of legends to open the show. Why? Because he later explained that he was THE legend. He wrestled Tully Blanchard in a legends match that he turned into a crazy brawl. He increased his relevance by calling Dusty Rhodes an "egg-sucking dog" and attacking his son, Dustin. On the mic and in the ring, Funk showed one of his best qualities: he just won't go away.

    Speaking of Funk, I'm sure the cameraman got in trouble for focusing on a sign that read, "The Funker Rules Philly - ECW Style"

    Barry Windham got another chance to beat Ric Flair in a World title match, but he lost again. 

    WCW asked fans to pay extra money to answer the question "Should Cactus Jack be banned from wrestling?" immediately before and after he won the WCW tag team title.  And if Maxx Payne was in the building to DESTROY Jerry Sags with a guitar shot, why didn't he team with Cactus to win the title after their two previous brawls?

    If it weren't for Funk, Sting would be the easy MVP winner, for nobly refusing to be handed the International World title at the beginning of the show and then beating Vader for it at the end of the show.

     

    This is also the PPV that was supposed to have Vader vs Rude for the International World title. I'm sad we never got to witness that! After this PPV, the magic of 1994 starts to slowly fade away.

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  15. So, a rest and recovery week, as I only got around to the gym on Thursday night. Trying to get the entire upperbody at least somewhat worked over, I did dips and reverse shrugs with 77 lbs 4 sets and 66 and 44 lbs one set both. Then chest flies, lat pull downs and push downs with resistance bands, some light curls and a set of shrugs with the two 70 lb kettlebells. Then abs and some foam rolling and stretching.

    Last two weeks have been freezing over here and that led me to feeling like not getting out of the door a single moment before I have to. So at least on one evening I did a bunch of stretching and massage on my neck, which was so stiff it was giving me a headache. Found the problem areas and made the pain subside.

    Work week was surprisingly good, with most of the problems being technical and not really physically demanding. The freezing weather meant that there was no snow storms so that helped the logistical issues at work.

    Last night, I discovered another great Syntwave band, called Midnight Danger and made sure to put a bunch of their stuff on my gym playlist. Listened through their latest release while biking home. I'm sure it went faster than my usual winter pace, especially with roads being in decent condition at the moment.

    My weight is around 180 lbs at the moment, which is ridiculously low for December. I planned being around 195 at this point. There's an actual chance that I won't Jericho myself this year, but after December 17, I won't be back to work until January 3, so there will be plenty of time to bloat.

  16. 2 hours ago, Technico Support said:

    A much simpler counterpoint: Vince sent NXT and HHH to run off that pissant little company AEW and they failed.  When faced with failure, Vince always turns back the clock to 1984.  We don't need good wrestlers, we need big guys. 

    And then he gets/has a wonderful crop of talented, charismatic big guys who can really go and proceeds to piss away each and every one of them, unless by some miracle they refuse to let it bother them for a decade, like Cena and Roman. And both of those were products of years of "push down the throat"-method, whether the fans wanted it, or not!

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