BloodyChamp
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Just a great guy like many have said. Really underrated wrestler to who missed some breaks during a time when that happened to certain guys. He’s 1 of those guys who everybody on Earth thought was good. He was from a small but untouchable class of guys like Brad and Steve Armstrong, Joey Maggs, and the Fultons. They were the glue that held the entire industry together at times. I saw where Bobby was also sick. I hope he’ll be ok.
Does anybody have a link or something to 5MYN2SB Tracy Smothers? I’m behind on them myself and not many have been mentioned here.
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Jim Cornette just blocked me on Twitter lol! Should have known better than to explain to him that he’s ripping Republicans for 1 thing that Democrats do more of.
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Re: Koko B Ware dropkick
Was that not rare? I found 2 gifs up searching the phrase. I assumed I saw a once in a lifetime thing lol!
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I just heard.
I think I have the master of this tape that has several glorious videos of this nature.
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Flair/Kerry isn’t exactly my favorite match and I would love nothing more than a well enough known Flair match from the territories to pimp whenever I felt like it. I know I know they’re out there but they’re almost random. It just wasn’t quite what an 80s cage match was supposed to be then Terry Gordy tripping during the biggest spot didn’t help.
I do like some thing about the match. The story they were trying to tell between the Freebirds and VEs was pretty complex considering the time. They argued but never fought. Then Hayes really though his foot was on the rope and was just trying to call it straight. Then when he’s fed up he still doesn’t turn on Kerry and just gives it to him. He doesn’t take it so just walks off, still not turning. Then classic Flair seizes the attack from the background and finally Gordy turns and Hayes is like ok fine.
I think there’s another repeat on this page that nobody has caught.
The Corino match was insane at the time because people thought he would finally just kick his head off. I remember being drained by the main event of that card to because it was all so good.
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5 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:
From the Weekly Pro Wrestling Dome show. Foley almost makes history by getting the Dome evacuated trying to set a board on fire (as he wrote about in his first book) and they save the match by doing a ridiculous dive train. Guess who actually gets the pinfall?
Oh yeah and there is a lot of blood. I didn't see Cactus ripping his arm open but it's bad.
I haven’t gotten around to watching this but it’s on my list of possible alltime favorite matches left to watch.
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2 hours ago, Death From Above said:
Nakamaki is probably about as athletic as your average message board poster, but that motherfucker tried so hard.
Cactus Jack said this and more about the guy in his first book. About as good of a compliment a guy could get at the time, and it was made before comments were just shared and recycled snippets of people’s thoughts that weren’t their own.
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7 hours ago, The Natural said:
O4:03 for the blade job by Vince McMahon in the Buried Alive match vs. The Undertaker. Jump to 10:55 for one of the sickest weapon shots you'll ever hear and reaction to it from The Undertaker, the commentators and the crowd. You hear Taker actually ask if Vince is okay because of it. Fucking nasty.
Did he blade and then take the punch to open it on up like Cactus Jack used to do? Or did he go down after the punch and just straight gig himself?
And that shovel shot belongs on any alltime best chairshot ballot even though it wasn’t a chair tbh. That was a nuke to the head. If The Undertaker wouldn’t have asked if he was alright I would have thought it was a perfectly timed sound effect like WCW used to do.
A best chairshot thread would be epic, but I’ll leave that up to bosses here. I understand chairshots aren’t people’s favorite things anymore and I don’t want to see them return but I don’t think they should be ignored throughout history similar to other issues in the world either because they were a big part of wrestling history.
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I was watching the Hack Sawyer match and was like yeah that’s alot of blood but to much? Compared to many other matches? Naw. But then I saw the closeup interview and that’s up there lol! I don’t know how he was yelling like that without aggravating the cut again.
Buzz Sawyer went to Portland to avenge his brother in a cross promotion deal I think.
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Dr Death had IT to me as a youngun. Just something about when he walked out for a match upped the intensity similar to Luger at the time. Just so cool.
Growing up though and looking up all of his stuff, he was a GOAT big man in Mid-South. But the cigarettes caught up with him early in hindsight. I doubt his knees got any younger. Not to long into WCW he was already slowing down.
I respect him for getting in the ring for 3 shoots though. Nobody will admit it but a ton of those big tough redneck rasslers wouldn’t have done that at that age, and would have made up some other excuse.
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I don’t think the crowds were purposefully segregated. I think that’s just how everybody sat lol! If they had a rasslin show there today that’s how everybody would sit. That part of this state is the roughest part left, just barely outdoing Taylor and Lafayette counties that sit side by side just like the south side of Leon (Tallahassee), south side of Franklin and all of Wakulla sit. In between is where I live in Jefferson County and together, rednecks and all, this string of counties makes up the last of old Florida. If that toll road comes through that will be it. Might as well rename it Jefferson-Dade and buy a shitload of water filters.
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2 hours ago, thee Reverend Axl Future said:
I saw Gordy v. Khan and Rose/Somers v. Midnight Rockers on TV whilst I was living in Chicago, and when soon I moved to NYC it hurt my heart that I didn't have access to this level of color-full brutality as WWF was kneed eep in the Kiddy Circus Hogan Era.
This was always how I felt. I grew up with MidAtlantic TV, Worldwide etc and WWF TV and I was like wtf at WWF even back then.-
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On 7/5/2020 at 12:21 AM, LP Steve said:
Geez, Dean, you just reminded me of one of the saddest cards I ever attended. Dusty Rhodes' PWF came to Tallahassee with pretty much no TV or promotion and drew about 500 people to a 12,000 seat arena. The place was deathly quiet. One of the early matches was Steve Keirn against Bobby Jaggers. This was Steve's second match of the night and he seemed a little pissed at having to sub for whoever no-showed. The place was so silent you could literally hear anything a fan yelled at the ring. At one point, Keirn had Jaggers in a toe hold of some sort. Some guy yelled out, "Put the figure four on him, Steve." And Keirn yelled back, "I can't. He's too fat!" I felt really bad for Jaggers, because he really was in woeful shape. Sigh.
I’m guessing you’re referring to Dusty’s return to FL just before it finally dried up. My old man grew up on FL and used to see it every time it came to the old place that’s not there anymore on Capital Circle at the Crawfordville Hwy I think. Might have been the Big Ben Jai-Halai place on Hwy 20 (lol!). Talked about it until his death and he didn’t talk about many things. I wish I could find Dusty Rhodes vs Pak Song which was his favorite match. We’re from Monticello. I recently found this that I thought w neat. We were pecan farmers, and by extension pecan buyers. Idk if you know what all that means but that means we know the names of all these little towns lol Newberry Fl...never would have guessed Dusty Rhodes wrestled in that town.-
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This match belongs in the “blood pouring out” subtopic earlier in this thread. Gash and splash for sure.
I can’t believe I forgot it for the same reason as I pimped the IWA match. It even has 1 of the guys in it from the other famous IWA match. This was usually on whatever first blood comp tape people bought. Unfortunately it was edited.
If psychology and work is your thing forget this. Busted open and throwing a headbutt lol! This was probably many 90s babies first blood pouring out match and barbed wire boards match. Weird match really. These guys had many good matches but aside from the gore and the crowd being legit scared of the big boys this wasn’t one. It looked like it was in a tiny gym with the retractable bleachers closed, and a small number of chairs at ringside.
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This was so sloppy it looked like a real fight. Tokyo Magnum’s knees at the end would agree. And I don’t know if they timed the clacking noise just right (probably that) or what but that sure looked like the worst chairshot ever on Nitro.
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17 hours ago, DEAN said:
It's all about the presentation, folks.
I agree, and there are many more subtle ways besides this popular obvious way. Sometimes when somebody is bleeding in a ring they just look like a pig in a slaughterhouse and you don’t want to look, not because it’s to gross (in which case we still look lol), but because it’s to dumb. Other times when somebody is bleeding in a ring they look like a freaking hero.
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I haven’t seen The Last Battle of Atlanta yet but I assumed that belonged. I wonder what a 10 best Tommy Rich matches ever list would be. I haven’t seen much of his best work but I’m a huge fan of his as he was the Sunday afternoon main event match guy for all those years growing up. He would always get effed out of the win but then when I went to a Worldwide taping he wasn’t there all night...then finally he came out and low and behold he won a squash. On TV weeks later that was used to build him up for his heel turn which happened the next week or maybe even that week during that later main event. I want to say he did something to make somebody lose but it wasn’t a heel turn until he verified it by doing again or doing a promo or something.
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I haven’t seen so many of these
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30 minutes ago, DEAN said:
Thus begins the Tommy Rich section of this deal.
We love this stuff, but this is 1 of those we would never choose to try and make somebody a fan lol! The 3 fat guys could barely stomp and then Lawler comes in and falls off the stage, for which the guy he missed punching bladed lol ooooouuuuuf!!!!!!
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6 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:
Young Teddy dropping a pint for the cause. Pressure bandage!
One of the best storyline driven matches ever, and they only built it for 30 minutes. This is better than some matches that were built up for a year.
Best Ted Dibiase match?
Best Ric Flair match in a regional promotion?
I remember it not being ranked as the best Mid South match here but it was in the top 10 I think.
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10 hours ago, thee Reverend Axl Future said:
That original IWA King of the Death Match has to be among my most viewed rassling tapes and I have written about it a couple times in the past. I stuck stuff from that on many video comps, wrestling or otherwise, showed it to many workers and curious-but-uninitiated new fans, and subjected so many club goers to it when I had access to the VHS players. The event itself is very interesting, and it became more significant due to the great dissemination of the tape because of it's high degree of bootlegging. Not only was it heavily traded and sold, there were "legit" copies of it everywhere in many versions. I upgraded mine a couple times, and then hunted down better and better versions on DVD (has anyone blu-ray'ed it yet?). I love the chapter about it in MFoley's book - I think there is a good documentary to be made about the card, the tape and its' influences.
Anyway, love this match, and the backstories, kay fabe and back stage, add to it if you care to learn. CJ has lost so much blood already and is so dehydrated that his plasma comes out all syrupy. To quote an a clever dick (namely myself), by the end of the bout "it looks like Mr. Jack has a raspberry Fruit Roll-Up (tm) on his face".
I'm a dracula who has hit a gusher or two in his time,
RAF
That is 1 of the best crimson masks. At the end his face is dark red, and where his beard is mixed with blood is even darker somehow. In the deathmatch thread I mentioned that this match is now underrated because it was the first match many people got ahold of as bloodthirsty adolescences just to see violence and got mad at because it didn’t involve a busted jugular or a being strangled with barbed wire. Great match though, great action and great things all around for all the reason you mentioned. The Cactus Jack vs Ohno match is also very good.
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19 hours ago, thee Reverend Axl Future said:
"Not all crimson comes in the form of a mask, my son." - RAF
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So freaking great. I haven’t looked it up in a while but every time I have everybody has stuck to kayfabe on this one. Love it. I can’t believe this idea wasn’t stolen by others. Did anybody first see this as a youngun like I did most of the bloodiest stuff I ever saw back then?
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1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:
2. A match that is a total bloodfeast with nothing else going for it. Somebody made Mom cry at the dinner table during Thanksgiving (possibly for eating the entire turkey) and the brothers are gonna have it out.
And go figure, what album was I listening to when I saw this thread was made? Under the Blade by Defleshed
Lies. You were listening to Under the Blade by Twisted Sister.
I love that match. I can’t believe the Headhunters never caught on anywhere else.
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Ooooooooooooo I get it. We’re doing the coolest actual crimson mask. In that case my first match belongs, as that’s the coolest one that I know of that the MAT wore lol! Not counting the unknown match from the AWA DVD set of course.
Here’s another token pick similar to Cactus’ match. Any list like this isn’t complete without this guy on it.
Ric Flair.This is not the greatest mask but it’s still a good one, and it was many fans our age’s first good look at 1 in master tape quality, plus they got to rewind it over and over again.
Also there was the green crimson mask that probably made Kevin Sullivan and The Undertaker jealous because it looked scary af.
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Most Hated Wrestler
in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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I read the first page of this topic and I will read the rest after I post. I was shocked in a good way to see Hogan’s name come up so fast, and more than once. I was also mad to see everybody go straight to the R card and either not mention or gloss over everything else he’s done just to get to the R card. Now here we are at where I have stood with Hogan, my personal choice for this topic.
Now first don’t get me wrong I have no use for a racist, and I have no hatred or judgement in any walk of life for anybody because of their race. What I meant by the above is how Hogan had done some heavy stuff before those racist remarks and pretty much gotten a free pass for all of it. The guy basically ruined WCW by backing out of a job that they’d built towards for over a year. The whole thing was originally conceived because he’d ran out of people to beat in the first place. The guy did the same thing to Vince who simply handled it better, but that doesn’t change Hogan’s behavior.
Then there are all the secondary stories like him not calling the Iron Shiek back in WCW, blaming Benoit and Malenko for his low ratings that week, and just on and on a list of seemingly irrelevant but nonetheless jerk behavior that he’s never had to own.
Then it finally happened, the 1 thing society won’t forgive, the N word. I didn’t have the energy to get mad myself at this point because it was just another day at the office for Hogan. Remember another thing he said? He said GOD WAS PUNISHING THE PERSON NICK TURNED INTO A VEGETABLE! O that was no big deal but he said the N word. And here we are now he’s pretty much been forgiven for that, and rewarded what was it something like $300,000,000 for it lol! Along with the pussy he got lol! Ugh...
And I believe in forgiveness to don’t get me wrong but...gah...Hogan is my pick for this discussion lol!