BloodyChamp
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I’d never seen it. I don’t think it’s up there with the others but it’s still good. That’s a testament to how good the WWF was with this type of thing at the time as much as I hate to say it.
I agree that it was a rare cut and dry explanation of events that happened. You rarely got that in wrestling. It was neat how it was so relatable. Playing with matches, punishment, chores lol!
So Paul Bearer ran the neighboring funeral home?
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Does anybody like this promo?
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I follow Mike Tyson casually and I’ve learned about this Jake Paul guy because he’s out there enough at this point. I don’t really follow and kind of fighting. Mike Tyson is doing 1 thing right this time that he’s never done before. That thing is saying all the right things. A wrestler couldn’t do a better promo than all of his lately, down to naming the time and place.
That obviously doesn’t mean he’s ready for any kind of fight. I wouldn’t fight Mike Tyson at any age if he’s ready for a fight, and I don’t mean physically. Mike Tyson has to be ready for a fight like, say, a fat drunk redneck has to be. Most of the time a fat drunk redneck is an overrated pushover, but when you walk up to one and spit on him and call his mama a whore he becomes something else that can fight. I just don’t see that in Mike Tyson. If that was ever summoned in Mike Tyson again it wouldn’t be a fight IMO, it would be a massacre.
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What exactly happened at 1:01 in this video? The noise. Were they pumping slam into the canvas noise?
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5 hours ago, Uncle Coaster said:
So should there only be good guys? Are we upset at the Young Bucks for mistreating their elder before his retirement match or does this only apply to certain social issues.
Where do you draw the line?
4 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:Pineapple on pizza. That's my line.
What argument are we having, again?
Both of these replies are great examples of how people should handle things.
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2 hours ago, odessasteps said:
Do people automatically think Actor X is a racist because he played one? Did people in the 70s think Carroll O’Connor was really like Archie Bunker?
No, but this is a simple question with a simple answer that many people hate. Those kinds of people are the real racebaiters much of the time and it doesn’t really affect me, for sure it doesn’t traumatize or break my heart or any of this stuff that supposedly happens to offended people…but it does freaking annoy me. Jeeze. I only wish 1980s phony insults were the pinnacle of it all now.
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I agree that Hogan vs Piper was a good match. I don’t remember much wrestling going on there but Hogan was working perfectly as a heel entertainer in that match and Piper was feeding off of it. Let’s be real though alot of it was just the fact that it was Starrcade, which they had managed to put together without the title being on the line. We knew Hogan was going down and we just wanted to see it. The other fans knew it to because Piper’s return was pretty epic, however boring he became later.
I’ll tell you a good match like the matches we’re talking about though. It’s from the same dang show. Luger vs The Giant. Luger could work when he wanted to and so could a young, game Paul Wight. That match was the biggest payoff in the whole NWO vs WCW feud since we didn’t get Sting vs Hogan.
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Warrior could work when he wanted to just like Hogan could. Mfer just never wanted to, just like Hogan didn’t. Yes I know there were like 8 more times Hogan wanted to work. That doesn’t make what I said a lie. If the list were stretched to 10 most important matches it would go on it IMO.
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23 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:
Since today is the anniversary of the show, posting one of my favorite spots ever. The Free for All version with Farooq shouting, "THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MESS WITH FAROOOOOOOOOQQQQ!" is the absolute best.
I wasn’t a fan of most of that stuff but the SCSA and Nation exchanges were great.
Both of these promos contain 2 subtle real world references that not everybody caught, that probably wouldn’t have been ok’d by a producer.
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I will say that the WWF had a ton of good matches after the Attitude Era, just show after show every night. They weren’t all storyline driven and when they were it was really good wrestler vs really good wrestler. That would usually make up a really good match but none of those really good matches were historically important. Yes I do know you could make an arguable list but it would be arguable to the other list, not realistically replaceable.
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Hogan/Andre WM3
HBK/Austin WM14
Austin/Bret WM13
HBK/Brett Survivor Series
Bruno vs BuddyThat’s my list even though I’m definitely not the 1 to ask. There is a list of darkhorses that’s interesting IMO but onto more important things first like the other list.
And I can’t even make one wow. The WWF, for all their Wrestlecrap, is short on alltime bad trainwreck matches. The exceptions were booked to fail to sabatoge somebody like HHH/BPP or for laughs like old Pat Patterson matches. If I made a list out of crumbs it would probably include the 1 old Bob Backlund match that made everybody mad or 1 of those last ones that didn’t make anybody mad because they didn’t care enough to get mad. Then maybe a John Cena match from those years were every match had a wannabe rapper prematch and postmatch promo.
EDIT: old AGED Pat Patterson. Those comedy matches from the 90s. And old match with a YOUNG Bob Backlund vs Superstar.
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I’ve never seen that match but it’s Japanese WCW jobbers somewhere besides WCW so I’m sure it phenomenal like always.
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VHS tapes were just on my local news! They (the news not the tapes) basically talked about what we talked about and interviewed a collector and went over some things. They added that some mint condition VHS tapes go for 5 or 6 figures. They also said that the VHS comeback hasn’t even peaked, and that they hope they’ll make a comeback the size of the vinyl comeback.
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I want to throw a random of my own out here. I’ve been watching The X-Files almost every Saturday and Sunday night. It comes on local TV here in blocks. I’d never seen it much because wrestling or football was always on but it’s great like I’ve always heard.
I’m tell you what though, a YouTube video of every time somebody said “I don’t know” would last longer than a video of Jim Mora saying “you don’t know”, Mike Graham saying “didn’t draw a dime”, Ric Flair saying “Whooooo” and The Rock saying “The Rock” added together Xs 1000.
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I’ve sold a tape or 2, but only ones that weren’t worth anything or worth ever watching again. And I bought them of course.
I have more…how do I say it without being vain…valuable crap than many people lol! I won’t sell it either. It wasn’t all mine. My folks and gradfolks were the owners of some of it and they never sold it.
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On 3/15/2024 at 9:18 AM, twiztor said:
i just want to pop in here and point out that the 80s Transformers and GI Joe cartoons are legitimately good. they're not the fucking Sopranos, or Game of Thrones, or what have you, but for 80s kids TV, animated or not, they are pillars of quality. Their contemporaries: He-Man, Thundercats, MASK, GoBots, et. all., are all objectively of lower quality, but Transformers and GI Joe i found hold up reasonably well for what they are.
source: i love cartoons (you may remember my 'Help me find all the cartoons' thread from a few years ago) and finished rewatching those two series a year or two back.
The first ever episode of Silverhawks has an extended intro that’s better than Gone With the Wind.
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Just now, RazorbladeKiss87 said:
I've never really watched SMW but just started the TV from 1992 and I have nothing but love for Tim Horner coming out to "The Thunder Rolls."
SMW TV is possibly the funnest TV to go back and watch. It was week to week, like what people called that male soap opera that was the same way years later. SMW holds up a little better because while it obviously never had the peak that the WWF did, it also didn’t have the things that came with success that make WWF TV not hold up.
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I’m not sure any SCSA list would have a WCW match on it except for Wargames 92. I actually haven’t seen that but I’ve read he bled the most or something which was a big deal back then, and is still a big deal today when done right. Vs Dustin just wasn’t quite up there. I love Dustin as much as everybody else but that match just isn’t up there. Neither is vs Steamboat. Him trying to mat wrestle in WCW just wasn’t even in the same universe as him merely talking in the WWF, let alone brawling and going crazy.
I haven’t watched vs HBK since but I can’t believe that didn’t make the list even if it wasn’t a clinic. That was 90s Hogan vs Andre. They didn’t have to have a good match. They only had to do 1 thing and they did, even though somebody did try not to.
Meanwhile in WCW
I don’t doubt the Eric or Kevin would drum something up to answer that question but the truth is there was no plan after Starrcade once its original plan didn’t happen. They did have plans for Starrcade had it went as planned which we have discussed but of course it didn’t go that. We’d learn that Eric’s plan was just keeping Hogan happy. Whenever Eric’s head had room for 1 more thought besides that, that thought was keeping Nash happy. If Sting or Flair no showed in the meantime or if Raven just quit that was no big deal. Then they just made the shows up on the fly every week, even the ppvs in some cases. And that was mostly done by Kevin and Dusty besides the main events, that of course revolved around keeping Eric’s fantasy big brothers happy.
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On 3/10/2024 at 4:10 PM, AxB said:
For all of his long, long WWE run, Chris Jericho was unique in that he liked to change things up. Not only would he change his look and character from time to time, but he'd change his catchphrases, even his speaking cadence in interviews. And any time something he was doing got properly over, he would then stop doing it before it got played out.
So it's a bit frustrating that in AEW for the last five years, he's been on his Greatest Hits tour. Whenever he changes things up, it's "We could bring back the Painmaker" or "We could bring back Lionheart*". Never anything fresh and new, other than the fact that his finishing move has a back elbow since 2019 (and that's a real "I need a move I can do when I'm 70" thing).
Of course, the other thing that kept him fresh was that he would disappear for months at a time to go and be a singer (or work in other forms of non-wrestling entertainment), whilst he's never been away from AEW for more than a couple of weeks at a time. Then again, he's now the second oldest Wrestler on the roster, and Billy Gunn is unlikely to get upgraded into the Sting 'Living Legend' spot. So perhaps he thinks that if he sticks around, at some point he's getting that treatment. Which, I can see his retirement tour being good, but at the moment he's a bit... in WWE, in the scripted entertainment era, he always seemed a little more real and less plastic than most of the boys. But in AEW where everyone seems real, he's the most plastic person there. If he hadn't signed for AEW in 2019, but got cast in a TV show or something, and then he returned to wrestling in 2024, he would get that legend returns deal.
* If he's returning to his CMLL days, his name should be in Spanish. He was Corazon De Leon in Mexico, he was only Lionheart in Japan and USA/Canada.
Maybe I’m way off on this one but it seems like multitalented across different forms of entertainment, independent minded, unafraid of anything, unpredictable wrestlers are boring now. What irony.
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Damien was 1 bad mfer and crazy. He was every bit as crazy as Sabu and Cactus Jack but missed some breaks or something.
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2 hours ago, odessasteps said:
I’d actually say modern social media was made for Zenk. Imagine if he had a podcast today and how many hot takes and stories he would have.
Seriously. I mean he would be a peak postprime Iron Sheik sized thing. He would absolutely kill it and never quit slowly growing.
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John Cena’s voice is annoying, especially on car commercials. Talk about something that’s not as good as it used to be anymore.
This was in some local car commercial in my town for a long time.
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So was it Tom Zenk? Whoever it was was doing an interview with Ole on a Dave Meltzer show? Or were they talking on Dave’s show? That’s hilarious and would go viral today. Zenk and the internet weren’t ready for each other. We’ve talked about that before.
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I’m not convinced that anybody ever watched or put money into a WCW show to see a good main event match workratewise, atleast not during the hot time we’re talking about. Don’t get me wrong they wanted to see the main event…….for the right guy to win and the right guy to lose. How it happened almost didn’t matter as long as it happened. All the mad fans after all those shows weren’t mad like “wow that wasn’t near as good as Rey Mysterio vs Eddie.” They were mad like “that was really stupid that Sting didn’t win.” In the case of the not smart fans it was the same way. They were like “that was stupid all that for a DQ at the end after the bad guy had already cheated before” or something.
April 2024 Wrestling Talk
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Is that Michael K Johnson from StrictlyECW? He’s still hacking it out there or here or wherever?