paintedbynumbers
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serious question
Does anyone think NXT 2.0 is better than what we had before? Building a show on new talent is always well and good if your champion isn't Dolph Ziggler. Loved 2014-2018 NXT. Not a fan of the arena looking like my 2nd great Art smock either.
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1 minute ago, NikoBaltimore said:
Especially after the last few pages here's my take on the song:
Adrenaline, in my soul
I'm sick of reading about Cody Rhodes!
If possible I would be thrilled to see all this talk about him in various threads merged into one. And if you need a title might as well put in "We don't talk about Cody, no, no no"
Whether you like him or not it's funny how he's living rent-free in so many people's minds.
would be great if he took the rent money and moved to the North Pole and started his own promotion.
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8 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Fucking yikes.
Sincere apology to everyone reading the thread. I didn't expect dude to go off into rants about Britt again or else I wouldn't have brought that up. I'm sorry everyone.also, since you are so high and mighty. June 4th I am helping out with a show in Rostraver. Beers and Briuses. Over 20+ local breweries will be there as well as matches from local and national talent. Tony Deppen will be there.
Come introduce yourself
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1 minute ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Fucking yikes.
Sincere apology to everyone reading the thread. I didn't expect dude to go off into rants about Britt again or else I wouldn't have brought that up. I'm sorry everyone.no bigger douche on this site than you. I fucking told you I could give you proof from workers but you have to get your jab in.
Sincerely fuck you your lame excuse of an apology.
You come on here and you talk like your opinion is the end all be all of opinions. Nobody gives a shit man. Admit you were wrong and move along.
Keep tossing your jabs at me. Don't kick the beehive.
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Not at all the same. Brit refused to work with a female worker because she didn't like her. She spread rumors to the promoter about the girl as well as lies. Pretty sure I still have the DM from said wrestler. I'd gladly send it to you in private but I am also fairly certain you know who the girl is.
Brit was also supposed to work Lufisto in the cage. She made up another lie about it and instead Katie Arquette got the spot and took a hell of an ass beating but it got her over!
The Brit Lebar stuff I heard from multiple sources. Not just from IWC, PWX, RWA, KSWA, AIW. People who don't run in the same circles even brought it up. One of them was actually a former IWC trainer! So if I am wrong on that it would seem most of the Indy scene here is wrong as well.
Has she improved as a worker? Yes she has. Is she better on the mic? Absolutely she is. Is she a better person? 100% she is. And I admit it.
But it took her a couple of years. Cody made his remarks recently. So I guess the better way to say it is "who is the real Cody?: The one who desisped WWE, or did he just say that because he knew fans would eat it up?
I didn't change my stance on the Kendrick stuff I just didn't have the full story and that was 100% my fault. I owned that and I dm'd some people on here to apoligize to them personally even. Did I have to do that? Nope, but I sincerely did not have that full story. If I did I would have shit on him just like everyone else. And it would have been in the right to do so.
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3 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Do you know what you're saying? I read the WWE, AEW, and Pro Wrestling forums. I don't have a favorite in the the game. But when you go into every thread and make it a fucking point to say Britt Baker got into IWC by fucking Justin LaBar (no one made you say it) and you make it a point to agree with holocaust denying Kendrick repeatedly (no one made you say it) and then you go back and post in those same threads about different topics because people called you on your gross bullshit, it's pretty pathetic. The amount of people defending Britt & the holocaust is wild to see. I am guessing the majority of you defending the board didn't give a shit about paintedbynumbers posts before he called Britt Baker someone who sleeps around and got mad when Kendrick got pulled from Dynamite for his claiming lizard people run the world.
Read that paragraph. Let it sink in before you react to anger. That's what you're doing. That's what you sound like. It's an exact 1 to 1 comparison. Ease up on people changing their mind on a subject. Because you live in that glass house. And your ass has been throwing all kinds of stones.typical internet warrior here. Can't do shit in person and brings up the past. I was right about Brit to this day I'l defend that. I know who you are and know you know people who can easily validate this. Not going to name their names on here but I have gladly shared DM's with users here who have asked for proof and I had twitter messages from females who have worked for IWC and AIW with Brit and backed my story up.
The Kendrick stuff I did not have the full story and I apologized. Not sure what more you want but I apologized and I meant it.
Sounds like you have to resort to shit from the past that has nothing to do with Cody to get people on your side.
It's like Technical said earlier, damned if you have a strong opinion about something because people here will rip you to shreds for it.
People always go back to the Brit stuff because that is all they have. If they knew Brit well during THAT TIME PERIOD they would know I was right.
It always makes me laugh how people don't have anything else so they go back to 2019 Brit Baker comments to make themselves feel better.
Also funny how you saw me Saturday and didn't say shit. Very telling
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1 minute ago, Stefanie the Human said:
I doubt the casual fan will care much, if at all. If anything, they'll likely giggle about him being Stardust for a moment, then it'll be on how WWE presents him going forward. After all, they seemed to get over Drew McIntyre being part of 3MB pretty well.
They did in a sense. I see a lot of people not just yourself (more on twitter to be honest) mentioning Drew. Drew had the height of his run during Covid with no crowds. Sure after a while the Thunderdome happened but how much of that was piped to fit the WWE narrative? It would have been smart to keep Drew near the top of the card once crowds came back at the very least to gauge the reaction. Instead they have him going up against Happy Corbin and Mad Cap Moss in a channel changing feud.
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5 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Your corporate boot licking sympathizer is showing. Might wanna tuck that back in because it's gross.
Cody is just a dude. A dude that makes choices. Some of those choices he regrets. That's not some giant carny con meant to personally fuck you over. He was very offended by the way his WWE run went because he believed he could be more. So when he left he made a lot of noise about it. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. This is a business about self promotion. The louder you can be, more often than not, the better.
Now he feels like AEW undervalued him and he is offended. That doesn't make him a hypocrite to go back to WWE to try and stick it to AEW now. It makes him human. We don't live our whole lives in one fixed time where thoughts and feelings can't change. It's all a spectrum. And him being pissed in 2016 at WWE does not preclude him from from being pissed at AEW in 2022. Time heals all wounds, so the WWE beef just doesn't seem that relevant to him I'm guessing. That isn't him being a hypocrite, that's him being a mature adult making a tough choice to provide for his family.
Just like Cody, you too are just a dude. And neither Cody nor Ricky Steamboat nor anyone else owes you a god damn thing. And you being so headstrong about this is giving me flashbacks to your pro Kendrick rants and your anti Britt rants. Which brings up a good point. You were banging those drums louder than anyone. Should you be allowed to have different view now? Or should we quote every post you make and scream about you're a hypocrite for changing your mind? You wasted way more of my time with that garbage than Cody Rhodes ever did. But just like with Cody, I extend you the benefit of the doubt that your opinion has changed over time. Maybe you should re-frame how you view this in your mind.Do you know what you are saying? I watch WWE, I watch AEW, I watch NJPW. I don't have a favorite in the game. But when you go on TV and make it a fucking point to trash another company (nobody made him do it) you make a blog anti WWE (nobody made him do it) and then you go work for that company because you don't get your way, It's pretty pathetic. The ammt of people defending this is outright wild to see. I am guessing the majority of you defending him didn't give a shit about him the past 2-3 months before he left either.
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3 minutes ago, Stefanie the Human said:
Nah, he just went to radio and print media (or at least, print media that would allow for acknowledging the violation of kayfabe) and did it. WCW and WWF at the time didn't acknowledge each other, remember?
Would have been interesting what he would have done if they did, though.
But I do find it interesting your reaction. Is it okay when a wrestler trashes their former workplace when it's a wrestler you like, such as Ricky Steamboat, as opposed to a wrestler you don't like, seemingly such as Cody Rhodes? Hmm?
I am not a huge Steamboat fan. But to compare the two is stupid. I despise Hulk Hogan. He didn't go to back to WWE until WCW folded. Trying to think of someone recently who has openly trashed the competition only to go to work for them without being fired or forced to.
Also Ricky Steamboat was not an EVP of the company that he left because he didn't get what he wanted. Steamboat may have went to print media but who really saw it out of the millions of fans at the time. How many really subscribed to Meltzer pre internet?
Not that we have many anymore but I'm really curious to see how the casual fan reacts to this. "Cody Rhodes!! Doesn't he hate the WWE"
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"wrestling has more than one sell out family
Adrenaline in my soul, suck a fat one Cody Rhodes
No one said you'd have to work for free
crowd is here about to blow
take your ball and then go home
whoa
my father said when I was younger
go get the cheddar man
no creativity
no creativity
It cost my freedom!
Couldn't change the game and despite the pain
I lost my kingdom
I sold my dreams
I bought my name
You'll follow me until the end
I'l start a new kingdom
Lights go down, I'm ready now
time to scam another town
gonna give another lie to believe in me
Hear the crowd on their toes
I'm the sellout Cody Rhodes
out the curtain take my ball go home
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29 minutes ago, Stefanie the Human said:
You would have really hated Ricky Steamboat in the late-1980s and early-1990s, when he would leave a company and complain about his treatment, then a couple of years later be working for the same exact company.
Look, I can't make someone's personal business decisions for them, nor am I really in a position to judge what their decisions should be. If Cody Rhodes feels going to WWE is the right choice for him, then so be it. It has no bearing on me personally.
There really is no such thing as "burning bridges" in wrestling either. Wrestling is not a normal business. Eric Bischoff tried to put Vince McMahon out of business for years, then eighteen months after his company crashed and burned, he was working for WWE. Wrestling is a business where if people think there's money to be made, they're going to try and make it. That's just the reality of how wrestling has worked for decades and decades.
And really... that's how pretty much all entertainment fields work. I'm not sure if that's a cynical take or not, maybe someone will judge me for it, but history has shown that if people in an entertainment field think there is money to be made, they're going to try and make it.
If you think that's wrong, so be it. I can't make your ethical choices for you. But on the scale of things to have an ethical crisis about, Cody Rhodes saying he disliked his former employer and is now returning to go work for them is a pretty strange thing to have one about.
Ricky never went on WCW TV and bashed WWF or vice versa though. Huge difference. Never compare Ricky Fucking Steamboat to Cody Rhodes.
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9 hours ago, AxB said:
If he goes to WWE and his segments suck, he can at least claim that it was the writers. Whereas in AEW, with the power (we think) he had, it all falls on him and him alone.
he should come in and give a heart felt promo. Then out of nowhere lights go out and Polka dots show up on the Tron. Flashbacks to Dashing Cody Rhodes come back on the Tron, Stardust flashbacks show up after that. It consumes Cody. It drives his anger and he becomes a vicious heel hell bent on proving everyone wrong. This is what I want to see. Cody driven mad by the previous gimmics and doing everything he can to win the big one on his own as the American Nightmare.
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10 hours ago, supremebve said:
Is this a Domino reference, if so, I approve.
You have no idea how happy I am someone got this!!!
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10 hours ago, Stefanie the Human said:
Something to consider: The things we're sincere about can change over time, and the things we used to be sincere about we can no longer believe in, but we may not need to update the world when our feelings change.
while you are correct in saying this, this is also why you don't burn bridges. Especially on live TV!! Cody had a choice. In fact it was his own idea to do it. Yes people can be forgiven but people acting as if he is a fucking saint is cringe,
WWE gave him the goofy gimmic, he did well in getting it over. Hell Dustin was given a worse gimmic but how many people prefer Golddust to Dustin Rhodes?
Watch Scott Halls Youshoot video. He flat out says he would have been a GI Joe character if that's what Vince wanted.
Good workers can make any gimmic work. He complained and tried to trash the company that gave him his first big break and now he is crawling back to them.
But what happens when Cody is unhappy again? Where does he go? Back to AEW? And more importantly what will you all say when he does?
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17 hours ago, Technico Support said:
LOL so we should expect all wrestlers to always be working us and just constantly lying, even in a non-wrestling context. Got it.
I literally alluded to Cody representing this old time conman mindset and said I'm glad he's out of AEW. I don't think it's "backwards" to hope for better of wrestlers, in 2022, to not be carny dirtbags.
exactly!! I am so sick of "well it's wrestling they have always been carny" bullshit!! I know so many kind hearted people in wrestling that aren't just in it for themselves or for money. People that absolutely enjoy the work they do. It's 2022, not 1982. The locker rooms, the vibes, totally different. Video games,twitter, and instagram, have replaced booze, cards, and pills. Wrestlers now are making great money with less travel as well. Cody has a newborn with the AEW deal he would probably have more time with her than he's going to with WWE. It's not even debatable.
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5 minutes ago, Technico Support said:
I'm not sure if I'm not expressing myself properly or if you guys are reading things into what I'm saying that aren't there. I just have a real distaste for a wrestler being "carny" now. I don't care if any wrestler is just out for money instead of "love of the game." I just don't like guys just straight up lying every second they're in public. This is no better than Hogan. I stopped listening to Prichard's podcast when it became crystal clear he's just a carny liar and paying any attention to him is a waste of time. This is the same thing. If you're cool with it and that's just rasslers being rasslers, we just disagree.
I agree with you 100%. Just because he his in the wrestling business it's supposed to make it right? That's the logic I am getting from everyone else.
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Brandi will be his sweet potato pie
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3 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
My Top 5 Potato Foods :
-French Fries
-Potato Chips
-Baked Potato
-Cody Rhodes
-Mashed Potatoeshash browns? Hot fries?
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1 hour ago, Swift said:
I seem to remember some old timer sticking to his guns. Was it Sammartino? Or Superstar Billy Graham?
Taker, HBK, Sting (until he had no other option)
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2 minutes ago, mystman said:
That's brilliant! Then, 20 years from now when she debuts, Liberty can call herself "a daughter of a plumber"!
"she's just a common girl, working hard for her curls"
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10 minutes ago, mystman said:
Look, I don't want to get into a big argument over this, and I'm not a Cody apologist. But could someone tell me what he was supposed to do? He obviously wasn't happy in AEW. ROH just got bought by them. TNA, NWA, and New Japan all have some working relationship with them. Where was he going to go? MLW? CYN? Hell he can't even go to DDT now. Is he just supposed to quit wrestling, or work somewhere he wasn't happy?
all well in good, this is why you don't burn bridges. Or make it look to the fans that you actively despise the competition if you really don't. He is either a sell out or phony. Take your pick.
Nobody forced him to do the over the top entrances with the sledge hammer, the false pedigrees, the theme song lyrics. It's different if someone like Omega or the Bucks left because they never really went out of their way to bury the competition only to come running to them the minute he was "unhappy"
Had Cody not gone out of his way to bash WWE any chance he had (and hell he created the chances himself) I would have 0 issue with him leaving if he isn't happy. I left my last job not because of money but because I don't want to work with assholes. I told the company owner that very sentence the day I left. I wasn't happy I left. If I am not happy now I won't go back to the former company even if they offered me 7 figures. It wouldn't happen. If Cody wasn't happy at AEW he is damn fortunate WWE took him back after the stuff he pulled. Imagine if they didn't where would he go?
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17 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Meh. Call it selling out if you want, but the correct term is cashing in.
The wrestling business is a... business. Always weird to me when fans turn on a guy for doing what he's supposed to be doing. Making money. I would have preferred if he stayed in AEW because I liked the narrative of him betting on himself and trying to live up to his father by being more than just the wrestler. But that's all just a narrative. None of it's true. He didn't own AEW. Not even a piece of it. He is a businessman trying to make the most money possible. Good on him for cashing in.
You sold out is about the dumbest thing anyone could ever chant at a wrestler. EC-dub chants didn't buy Taz a house, but that WWE money sure did. I loved ECW. But this idea that wrestlers are supposed to destroy their bodies for "the love of the game" and not piles and piles of cash is pretttttttty antiquated.I do like your Taz example. Spot on.
Also,
I've always said you can't fault someone if a company is going to throw them truck loads of money. Brock Lesnar being the best example. He left UFC, is making bank in WWE, and not destroying his body. All we hear is how Tony has more money than Vince. If he wanted he probably could have matched the offer or beat the offer. Cody absolutely sold out all of his "values" to go back to WWE. Hell, I might be wrong, he might have a huge creative clause in his contract but it's doubtful., Vince knows the other guys won't go for that. It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.
Smoke and mirrors theme or we riot!
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16 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Meh. Call it selling out if you want, but the correct term is cashing in.
The wrestling business is a... business. Always weird to me when fans turn on a guy for doing what he's supposed to be doing. Making money. I would have preferred if he stayed in AEW because I liked the narrative of him betting on himself and trying to live up to his father by being more than just the wrestler. But that's all just a narrative. None of it's true. He didn't own AEW. Not even a piece of it. He is a businessman trying to make the most money possible. Good on him for cashing in.
You sold out is about the dumbest thing anyone could ever chant at a wrestler. EC-dub chants didn't buy Taz a house, but that WWE money sure did. I loved ECW. But this idea that wrestlers are supposed to destroy their bodies for "the love of the game" and not piles and piles of cash is pretttttttty antiquated.In most cases yes you are right the "You Sold Out chants" are wrong.
However, when you make it part of your character to openly bash WWE and then end up signing with them months later..... Yeah, either he sold out or his mind changes to fit the narrative, or he had no power at all and was doing what Tony told him to do. Not many viable options
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3 hours ago, John from Cincinnati said:
Regardless of the reasons for people's "demotions," some of Cody's pushes have been commensurate with Drew's at the height of his Chosen One/IC reign stuff. Cody's been an ascendant 230+ day IC champ, been given characters and time to feature feature his personalities prominently, had PPV matches with some of their biggest stars, and he was part of a team that went over the Shield as strong as anyone has. He didn't achieve main event singles success, but his WWE run was equal to if not greater than Drew's first go in the company.
As for burned bridges, who's to say. Things could go poorly, but some people with awful things to say about the place have come back in and gotten reasonable treatment (within the boundaries of what could be reasonable in this company; and yes, of course I realize this hasn't been a universal reality). And for all the shit Cody catches for slagging the them off or mocking them, Cody does go out of his way to say kind things about some prominent people in the company, Hunter especially. They might come to use him poorly, but I think you're painting an incomplete picture.
No idea what argument you want to win, because we're not arguing. I'm just pointing out that the things you're using to draw firm conclusions really don't merit such certainty. This could break a few different ways, and we don't know till we see it play out.
Argument was a poor choice of words on my part. You are right Vince has brought back a good amount of talent. Bret Hart coming back for that last mini run was one I remember.
Cody seems to be like a coworker I have. I can share the story. I worked with this younger guy and it was his first job in our line of business. He would come into the office and put in earpods in sing really loud, we would order lunches and he would never pay for his share. Was he a dick? No he was just young and didn't know better. Well long story short I went to bat for him after everyone wanted him fired. He turned things around and did really well. Well then it started, he had an ego. He buried companies similar to ours, he went out of his way to trash talk other co-workers, and when something didn't go right he thought the world was out to get him.
I switched roles in September and he reached out to me because he was miserable and everything was going wrong at his job. I got him hired to work with me and he started back to his old ways. He is making $30k a year more base salary and now he is finding things wrong again. No matter what he is never happy. We go to lunches and he complains, just never happy no matter how good things are. Now he is interviewing for another company already!!
This reminds me of Cody. AEW gave him a huge platform to perform. Not just him but his wife as well. He got onto a TV show (Go Big Show) that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise, all the promo time he can ask for and he leaves. Reading books and watching shoots he comes across the same way. Just never happy and never at fault.
Am I going to watch Mania? Sure, Hell I'm going to Raw next week. Would I like to see Rhodes-Rollins? Sure it could be a great match. Do I think Cody made a good move? Absolutely not.
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March 2022 Wrestling Discussion
in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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No but I heard Cody's broke the internet.