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    OCTOBER 2019 WRESTLING CHAT.

    in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING

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    11 hours ago, Oyaji said:

    I didn't even remember your take on it, sorry. I was referring to somebody else vehemently defending him. 


    Always nice to meet a fan.

    Nothing that has gone wrong with SmackDown on Fox can actually be traced to Bischoff. On JR's pod they theorized that he'd been set up as a fall guy the whole time.

    But yeah, decade old biker jokes or something

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    [SEPT 2019] WRESTLING DISCUSSION

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    16 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said:

    Kim K has nothing to do with thicker women being in vogue.


    Nothing? I guess I'll have to take your word for it, but I feel there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.
     

    18 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said:

    First, a lot of the body positivity talk is a façade.


    Based on what? Your personal opinion of her, based on a bias that you admittedly have because you feel she's appropriating black culture?
     

    20 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said:

    Second, Kim's figure was mostly given to her by a cosmetic surgeon. That's not an indictment on her, just the truth.


    It's also not relevant, even though I guess it is the part of your post that resonated the most with dudes here, surprise surprise. It may be relevant to the argument that she's co-opting the body type of black women, but that isn't actually what the discussion was about. It's just your specific reason for disliking her.
     

    23 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said:

    Third, saying she popularized fuller figures opens a major can of worms. Queen Latifah has been a celebrity with a plus-size figure for around 30 years, for starters. And she's a hell of a lot more talented/respected.


    If you're really suggesting that Queen Latifah is has more to do with the popular shift in body image perception in recent times than Kim, I don't really know how to address that in a way that isn't dismissive. I know that's something you've talked about dealing with a lot on this board and in these kinds of discussions, and I am sorry, but I am legitimately dumbfounded here.
     

    28 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said:

    Kim has done good work with helping wrongfully imprisoned people get released, but many more do the same thing without the fanfare.


    ...so? How does that minimize the work she's done? Unless you're hinting at something that was already suggested - that it's all a part of some carefully coordinated PR campaign. Which kind of just seems like a way for people to confirm their bias against her rather than anything rooted in reality. It's not like she was dealing with some major scandal that she needed to do damage control for.

    [SEPT 2019] WRESTLING DISCUSSION

    in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING

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    I don't know what year some of you are living in, but Kim Kardashian has spent a large part of her time recently working to free unjustly imprisoned black people and reform the criminal justice system. She actually helped to free several prisoners (17 within a three-month period this year) and she went to talk to POTUS about it while the political establishment of the left spent the last two and a half years wringing their hands and accomplishing their usual nothing.

    The Kardashians also revolutionized the way that women's bodies are presented in media - thicker women are in style now, in stark contrast to the heroin-chic models that had been dominating the fashion industry for decades. You can't open up Instagram or Snapchat without seeing their influence. Kim is absolutely a feminist icon and there are a LOT of young women that would make that argument - whose opinions on feminism, by the way, are far more relevant than the opinions of any dude, let alone one pontificating on a wrestling message board.

    NXT on USA - 9/25/2019

    in WWE PROGRAMMING

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    2 hours ago, turk128 said:

    I have a feeling Keith Lee's NXT carreer is gonna have a very similar trajectory as Big E ?


    ...so he's going to win the NXT title?

    I'm guessing Canadian Destroyers are fine because none of them ever look like the recipient's head/neck is anywhere close to hitting the mat.

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    Raw is The Mountain and The Viper - 9/23/2019

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    1 hour ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said:

    Struggling to make sense of this one.

    I think he's trying to say that it's something Bruce would defend (which is true) rather than it being something Bruce came up with (which isn't information we have access to). Not sure what the point was supposed to be, though. Bruce defends like 95% of WWE angles, so that could be said in reference to just about anything. 

    #205LIVE

    in WWE PROGRAMMING

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    I worry about the assimilation. NXT was already overstuffed with people they don't have time for. There are probably at least 25-30 people that they'd pay closer attention to before they'd bother to come up with anything for a Tony Nese or a Daivari. I'm not super high on either of those guys, but they've been working their asses off.

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    #205LIVE

    in WWE PROGRAMMING

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    Airing and presenting the show live after SmackDown in front of SmackDown crowds was always the show's biggest problem. If they aren't going to announce a change of venue/taping schedule, the announcement might as well be cancellation. 

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    [SEPT 2019] WRESTLING DISCUSSION

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    1 minute ago, AxB said:

    There's under a hundred regular posters on the board. If dozens of them all hold the same opinion, it's not a hot take. It's the majority view.

    I was under the impression that I overused quotes and people here could pick up on when I'm using sarcasm. I'll throw in a winky face just for you next time, since you are literally the problem. 

    [SEPT 2019] WRESTLING DISCUSSION

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    39 minutes ago, L_W_P said:

    While I agree that the fan base as a whole causes issues you have to admit that WWE burn us more often than not.


    This is just the thing that makes this conversation go in circles every time it comes up - *no one is disagreeing with this*. No one is saying WWE has flawless booking, or that they don't have a two-decades-stale product, or that they didn't invite an enormous amount of problems upon themselves with the authority figure booking. No one EVER said ANY of that. Not even SK. It's just that WWE isn't the only entity that bears responsibility for the current status quo of professional wrestling. And people seem to have a *lot* of trouble admitting that wrestling fans have had any kind of effect at all on the evolution of the business. To the point of pulling out the message board equivalent of putting their fingers in the ears and saying "I'm not listening" when anyone goes in that conversational direction. It's hard to make any kind of headway in a discussion when people are stunned that anyone would suggest that Vince McMahon isn't 100% responsible for every negative thing happening in wrestling.

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    NXT on USA - 9/18/2019

    in WWE PROGRAMMING

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    There's a vast middle ground between "everyone loves Mauro" and "no one loves Mauro" - you'll notice that I wasn't suggesting the latter, or even saying "most." And the DVDVR bubble does exist in a variety of ways, but to suggest that most of Mauro's detractors are concentrated on this board seems like a little much. Stats that show what "most" wrestling fans like/dislike don't really exist in any way that is available to us. I don't have some super-insider hardcore wrestling fan reason for disliking Mauro. All of the reasons that Mauro gets on my nerves (shouting all the time in a manner that everyone shits on Cole for, pop-culture references, cultural appropriation, cringey phrasing) are problems that "casual" fans could (and do) have.

    [SEPT 2019] WRESTLING PICTURE THREAD

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    2 hours ago, grilledcheese said:

    It's shit like this that makes me wish that all the WCW B and C shows were on the network. I'd love to go back and watch it all unfold again. And not just this stuff, but all the other silly shit, like Men At Work getting beat up, or being told that State Patrol was a viable threat to the WCW Tag titles. I know that Saturday Night was the main outlet for all of this before Nitro, but I seem to remember some fun stuff on Pro and Worldwide as well.

    I've been doing a deep dive on MonsoonClassic's channel on YouTube and there's a lot of WCW C-Show gold in there, ranging from 89 all the way up to the end. It's not in a particular order, but it's still a lot of fun. Seeing the team of Frankie Lancaster and Mark Starr getting their own jobber match is a trip.

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