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11 hours ago, MORELOCK said:
What is wrong with you?
I'm not a billionaire bossing around oiled up guys on drugs to entertain the rubes who sit around on the internet jagging off to subjective debates about star rankings all because I can't vent my frustrations over my mother sexually molesting me by pretending to do the same thing to my daughter on tv for ratings?
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2 hours ago, piranesi said:
All Vince needs to do is bribe a sick kid to wish it so and Cena will be bound by that.
"Come on Bayley, the kids dying. Mak him a man and I'll owe you one."
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47 minutes ago, Michael Sweetser said:
It's pro wrestling. Sometimes, shit happens.
With that said, WWE should've banned the buckle/barricade bomb the instant Sting went down. Balor's injury shouldn't have happened. @James F'n X and I were discussing it earlier - we think those thick "padded" barricades at ringside are even shittier to bump into than the old steel guardrails, because at least the steel rails could slide on the floor and give some. Those current ones are rock-solid with very thin padding.
1Wrestling, by its nature, is very dangerous. At what point do limitations placed on the performers hamper the art too much?
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4 hours ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said:
That could pave the way for Cena's heel turn, lol. Agree to propose to Nikki, but only if they win the match,
Then lay down for Miz and be pinned by the dreaded Fingerpoke of Doom.
Is there a post of the year awards, because I'd like to nominate this already.
For those who don't know, oswreview did xfl review that was pretty great.
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Have we talked about how Joe has now hurt at least two guys?
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6 hours ago, Brysynner said:
So Heyman manipulates Brock who manipulates Vince. Paul E. really is a mad genius
I think its more of Heyman, as a man well versed in wrestling politics, shares his information freely, with a guy he could just see the talent in...and make good money from.
Again, if you read the man's book, yeah, maybe he could have been a heart surgeon. Look at the guy - thats a man with a helluva drive. He knows how to put in work, he cant jam a needle in his ass to be a better doctor, but he clearly has a work ethic beyond most people and if applied to anything, success would have likely folllowed. Would have made a great Duke Nukem, or insert comic book role.
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1 hour ago, Victator said:
No he just made him a viable star.
Who? Because in 2001/2002 there was nothing but WWE. Was Brock going to become a megastar wrestling for TNA in a barn? UFC was on its ass in 2002. Brock did not have the dedication to make it in Japan, which was in the toilet at the time too.
So best case scenario, he becomes an also ran fighter in an also ran promotion. Who might have gotten over if the Ultimate Fighter still happens in this alternate universe. But he would not be the star he is now without WWE.They've sold you on the idea he's a star, but how is that working out? He didn't usher in an era of new ratings highs and I'm doubtful he moved WWE PPV numbers like he did for the UFC, but I don't have those numbers. It's certainly paid off well for Lesnar. I'd suspect he's more known to a general audience because of the UFC and not the WWE. My mom certainly doesn't know about him because he beat up the Hardy brothers.
Who says it had to be in wrestling or MMA? Brock is a unique physical specimen - no one should tell him how well being a movie star pays - it requires less travel and you don't need to be face punched. If he liked to mindlessly screw women I'm sure there are several companies that would have worked with him. In a world of viral moving images, him being an unknown doing something insane on video would have drawn attention and would have brought a money truck to his door for something. You can't teach what Brock is and you'd have to be blind to miss it. If it wasn't WWE, it would have been someone else, doing god knows what with him. Personally, I think Brock being a comedy foil would get over like a million bucks. -
1 hour ago, Victator said:
Brock is wrong. He floundered without WWE before getting into UFC. He needed WWE.
31 minutes ago, joseph2112 said:The point is though, Vince and the WWE made Brock. What might have happened otherwise or what Lesnar says about it is not really relevant to the conversation. That is what happened. And I get he would take the best offer in a second but he is just doing what every part time guy does now, call his own shots.
Vince and Co had fuck all to do with the man growing up and getting into real wrestling. They didn't instruct him to jump security and approach Dana White directly. Someone with half a brain cell would have tapped this guy at some point. It's been done on so many lesser people - Kimbo jumps to mind immediately. It's not genius to market a monstrous human being as a bad ass. Hell Dixie and Co managed to pull of the same thing with Joe. Brock is simply an overpriced hired gun.
If anything Vince is the dumb one here. The return on the investment doesn't seem to equal out and having an assumed steroid abuser on your active roster is a shitty pr thing in light of the fact you were federally investigated over such things.
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11 hours ago, mattdangerously said:
How is Brock not Vince's creation? No one knew who the fuck he was until he got to the WWE. The only reason he got his big UFC push was because of his WWE run, otherwise he'd be slumming it in the minors with Lashley.
I'll take it you didn't read Brock's book. Vince might want to claim Brock as his own, but Brock certainly wouldn't see it that way. Dude would have been a star for whoever ended up marketing him.
Brock also manipulates Vince to get what he wants, not the other way around. All the bs other guys took from Vince, Brock has expressed his ability to not be blinded by it. Hulk Hogan would bend over backwards for a Mania spot. Brock doesn't give a shit as long as the check clears and if it don't, he ain't doing shit. No I'll owe you one pal, for him.
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5 hours ago, zev said:
Brock beats Goldberg at Mania for the title so WWF beats WCW one last time? Yeah, that sounds about right.
While I agree, wouldn't it make Zuffa or whoever, the TRUE king then? I mean, Brock is a mercenary for Vince, he's not his creation. If another fed came along and offered better, Brock would be out the door before the ink dried.
So now that Vince gets his last huzzah as the undisputed king of his little world, what's his rosebud?
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10 minutes ago, RIPPA said:
Being near sighted (or far sighted for that matter) is a medical condition - should all those wrestlers not be allowed to wrestle?
Big Show suffers from acromegaly - should he not be allowed to wrestle?
Will those conditions lead to possible death or paralysis while wrestling?
You want to nitpick about my word choice, ok, my concern remains the same - should a guy who had a heart attack from wrestling really be ok'd to wrestle when they won't let a guy with who could be paralyzed from a single bump.
I mean they don't want Angle to wrestle, allegedly, despite the proof he could for the the last 10 years, but they'll ok the guy who had a heart attack.
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19 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said:
There's a wrestling adage that generally proves true time and time again. If you can get yourself over in one place, you can usually get yourself over in another.
Funny how the biggest wrestling company in the world screwed that up so many times
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59 minutes ago, Technico Support said:
Well one guy can get in there, do 5-10 minutes of gaga and probably no bumps. The other guy can't help but launch himself headfirst at his opponents because he thinks he owes it to the business to do dangerous shit.
One grew up in an era where the marks were in the stands, not backstage.
And if both guys have medical conditions there is no reason either should be in the ring and it's really hypocritical if they let one guy wrestle and not the other. And no, neither one should be in the ring.
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18 hours ago, RIPPA said:
Lawler just signed a year deal and they appear to be setting up a Lawler/Ziggler match based around his heart attack so shows what you know
Let me get this straight.
Danielson might have a really crappy life if he takes a bad bump and the WWE docs won't clear him.
Lawler had a heart attack from being in a match and he's going to get an all clear.
Ok....
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10 hours ago, just drew said:
Meh. I mean, I'm curious as to what most of y'all think Sami Zayn's ceiling is in WWE. He's just another guy there....
Someone has to clean up the arena after shows.
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Wasn't Lodi doing birthday phone calls for fifty bucks a couple of years ago?
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Why does it feel like every couple of years people rediscover Goldberg/Raven?
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Did Linda have anything to actually do with the WWEs success? I know she wrote press crap and made meatballs for investors, but, like her daughter, is there any direct correlation between something she did and success for the WWF?
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1 hour ago, Ace said:
It's entirely wrestling media. Triple H does 'em before every Takeover, usually. It's been a running joke that Mike Johnson is usually the first to ask a question.
I swear some wrestling guy wrote a rant about being on hold for over an hour for one of those things and then they skipped over him because he was a wrestling guy.
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4 minutes ago, mattdangerously said:
Oh god damn it. Why is this shit so hard to edit on mobile?
I've now switched browsers and the board still hates my phone something fierce. I blame my unupdatable os.
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2 hours ago, Infinit said:
Roman came off pretty good just now on First Take. It's still weird to see ESPN pushing WWE.
Last time I knew, when you do things strictly for money, the word prostitute got thrown a lot.
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20 minutes ago, Matt D said:
I know as many people who think that SDL is good because of James as think it's good because of Ward, so I suppose we'll have some proof one way or the other soon.
When has going backwards ever helped in going forwards?
So if you know a wrestler is working you, and you let them because hey it's a childhood hero, did they actually work you if you would have bought merchandise anyways?
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16 hours ago, Ace said:
HHH does conference calls for press questions 4-6 times a year. It's not that huge an opportunity.
I'm under the impression this was a call in to the show. Aka something unlikely to ever happen again. Pretty sure Dave or Bryan have talked about wrestling media pretty much being a nonfactor in their press conferences.
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Everything I just brought up is in direct reference to many of the scummy things Vince has done. It's a joke man.