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Tessitore is more comfortable and fitting in pretty well. The announcers missed some small things like KO using the Blue Thunder Bomb to shout out Sami
Pretty Deadly broke out some real fun double teams last night plus whenever they're onscreen my wife and I like to theorize what discos are like in Lothlorien. Are the tunes just chamber music with a sick beat? Can the Numenor hang with Elven party drugs? Is Gandalf the bouncer making sure you shall not pass without a wristband?
Now that Jimmy is away from Roman and both Usos are really into their singles runs it'll be interesting to watch how they continue to develop. From what I've seen I think Jey is the better talker but Jimmy has the potential to be the better worker. Individually, both brothers are limited and seem to work better as underdog faces when they can sell and hit desperation superkicks. I hope Jimmy can differentiate himself in the ring cause that Yeet shit is gonna carry Jey a long way but, y'know, he stinks
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Fightful sez Hogan is off Main Event, not because he was booed but because his son is getting married and I guess Hulk forgot when he took the booking
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18 hours ago, Gordi the recovering AEW f said:
My only thought on Malakai Blech is that I am really gonna miss singing along to his catchy singles entrance theme.
That's funny, Cornette uses the same nickname for him. Horseshoe theory is real!
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10 hours ago, hammerva said:
Would Tama Tonga be the Shaska Whatley?
Bloodline 2.0 could use a Paul Jones to counter Heyman. Would that make Tonga Loa the new Teijo Khan?
Edit: Just not the version of Paul Jones with that moustache, that would be in poor taste
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18 hours ago, Technico Support said:
Yeah. Seriously. Like what you like. Dislike what you don’t. Raw vs Nitro ruined wrestling discourse.
I hear what you're saying and I agree to a certain extent. I think it's a shame that the discourse quickly turned from 'which wrestling show do you prefer' into 'which style of wrestling is objectively better' and a lot of the blame for that has to sit with AEW's company culture
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Yeah, real people have plenty of nuance, I'm not sure I always want it in my overly simplified live-action cartoon of two muscle men fighting
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2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:
"What if the NWO was run by venture capitalists?"
Too real, I watch wrestling to escape
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I only saw the opening promo live before watching the Rams cream the Vikings and then skipped through the rest. I liked it, feels like a big time Rumble getting built and I'm into Seth and Drew as the two voices of reason stirring the pot with the Bloodline
Penta was dope. It has to be gratifying to know how marketable you are and then hit the top of the merch sales before you even debut. There will be a lot of comparisons in how Penta is treated in WWE, it's more of a litmus test for ex-AEW folks than Cody or Ethan Page and outside wrestlers will be watching how he's pushed. Not only did they get a longer match to show off, Penta executed a bunch of stuff I never saw in AEW (limited viewing habits notwithstanding) and looked awesome doing more with less. Gable never fails to impress either, eventually he'll learn how to lean in to the You Suck chants. Nit pick: German on the apron was a little much as a transition spot to leg work
Other than that: Sheamus and Kaiser are always a good time. Gunther and Jey were pretty good too, should be a good test for Gunther to get something compelling out of an Uso singles match. I'll watch the women's matches when they're about something other than a title or a man. Sami actually pinned someone with the Blue Thunder Bomb! Akiyama represent! Main event was standard fare that went long, I just want this feud to be over and it looks like it finally is
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1 hour ago, EVA said:
When Max returned as Greaser MJF and brainbustered Cole at that PPV, they definitely sold it (and it was gratefully accepted by most) as the end of the feud.
For sure and if they had actually left it there it would have been the end. But they didn't so it wasn't. But I got off topic, this thread is about the Death Riders so my question to the fanbase is: Was Orange Cassidy taken to a new level by this angle? Is he a more developed wrestler now and is he taken more seriously in the main event than before?
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1 hour ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
There were two distinct stories that played out. Brochachos --> who is the Devil was the first. That ended when we found out and MJF got surgery.
MJF then came back and moved on. When Cole came back they're started a the second story based on who was really the bad person in that first feud.
This isnt Rey Fenix's contract, you don't get to add time for injury to a dormant story lol. The first one ended. MJF had other stories including the Osprey one. Then they started a second story.
The blow off to the Brochachos angle was the match at World's End 2024. Lots of feuds go dormant in AEW, it's kind of a trademark style. If you want to say it's part 2 of the same angle that's fine but it's not a full sequel because the first one never ended
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1 hour ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
False. At least partially. That story started in June 2023 and concluded in December 2023. 6 months. (They chose to restart the feud once both guys were back and healthy 8 months down the road. But the original angle ran for 6 months). This angle is about hit 6 months. Sept - Feb.
I think you're splitting hairs, the angle had a pause but it was the same angle that went a year and a half
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John Cena vs Samoa Joe from a 2017 house show in Arkansas, one of only two singles matches between these guys and the only one online at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_nawhObgkc&ab_channel=WWEVault
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Following up from last week's thread, Roxanne Perez came out of Booker T's school so she was always WWE bound. I was surprised she work ROH at all tbh
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The outside titles are really note helping. I think AEW has 8 main roster titles against WWE's 13 (spread out over two brands and multiple platforms, 14 if you include the semi-canonical Crown Jewel title). 8 really isn't too many so long as they all matter. The glut of singles titles wouldn't be as obvious if they were differentiated a little more, maybe shorten the Continental's time limits to 15 minutes and have either the International or TNT under different rules too. Garcia's got the TNT, have him declare it's now under Pure title rules or something (maybe better as a heel move)
2 minutes ago, Technico Support said:I’ve said it before, but give the trios belts “no tag” rules, defend them regularly, make them like the X division belt where only crazy highspot dudes fight for them, make every match an insane PWG spotfest, and baby you got a stew going.
This would be my ideal trios division, like an X or cruiserweight division and always 10 to 12 minutes of nonstop action. Then have the tag division under stricter rules (tag ropes and all that) to set them apart
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I recall reading a snippet of a Mox interview (so you know I'm a reliable source) where he said the Death Riders angle was designed to develop the characters of younger talent and elevate them to the main event scene. It was implied that even with all the matches being wrestled, the people in charge of creative wouldn't or couldn't build stars on their own so Mox was going to take charge with a company-wide storyline to get things in order. Even he realized that matches without good stories are only half a wrestling show. Again, I respect the vision even if the execution isn't for me
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I won't vote because I'm not a regular viewer but I will say that even though I'm not a fan of Jon Moxley these days and I prefer my wrestling more grounded, I respect the vision he's going for with the Death Riders. I mentioned a consistent reality in the hot takes thread, I think Mox is trying to establish an elevated wrestling reality that vibes more with his death match tendencies and I appreciate the effort. Plus it's original and I think wrestling needs to take big swings sometimes
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I don't know about Hulking up but I've definitely done the Kawada "try to no sell but realize you can't a few seconds later"
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6 hours ago, DragonZombie said:
Very good number for RAW
4.9 million views
Netflix goes primarily by worldwide or global numbers rather than domestic USA numbers. Going only by USA ratings is a thing of the past for streaming. The show however isn't yet available in all possible worldwide markets.
Who's the lucky son of a gun whose going to add up all the TV ratings from around the world from the last year or so to see how these numbers compare? Somebody must be on it
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1 hour ago, supremebve said:
Yeah, we all bought into the bullshit as soon as we saw an Irish whip and though, yeah I'll buy into that. Every time someone says that something is business exposing, I always think, why is this the line? If you've watched years and years of wrestling and one goofy move makes you say, "it breaks the immersion." I'm here to tell you that you are the problem not that wrestler, that move, that angle, or that storyline.
It depends on the move and how much that promotion maintains a consistent internal reality for storytelling purposes. It may be a reality in which Irish whips and slams are viable offense but a 450 splash out of nowhere throws everything off. Don't blame the viewer for lazy writing
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Oh man, the big payoff to toppling these wrestling supervillains is a Christian title reign? I think that'd be a tough sell to any audience. Hobbs rules but he's never set up for success, hoping his shot doesn't amount to AEW's version of HHH/Taka Michinoku
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Got caught up on the AEW matches I wanted to see over the holidays and I have to shout out Shelton Benjamin vs Kyle Fletcher from the CC. A near perfect sports-based, character-driven TV wrestling match, tightly worked but not over the top with a great finish. Shelton has been doing god's work in that company. The only downside was Don Callis on commentary, terrible as a manager and as a heel announcer.
I also watched Fletcher/Ospreay 1 and the fist half of the rematch (snooze) and as far as I'm concerned Fletcher is already the better wrestler of the two. Kyle can go toe to toe with the best at the breakneck flip style but I'm not sure Ospreay has the intangibles to work a match like Fletcher/Benjamin. Excited to see how young Kyle develops from here
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Thinking Seth might screw Punk at the Rumble to keep that going to Mania. I don't really need an extended feud like with McIntyre and if Punk is going to get a for-real Mania main event he doesn't have many bats left at the plate but it didn't feel finished
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I wanted to do a full review but couldn't make it through this. Boring show and I think the product was really exposed. Some of the camera work was top notch but overall the production felt off, particularly the muted sound and tentative announcing. HHH and Rock rambled, broke kayfabe, and looked old as shit, they were both lame and confused the crowd. And Cody is just there? And loves Rocky now? Then nobody gave a fuck about Roman/Solo because they were waiting for the run ins, that's not a good sign. I never would have guessed that the constant ads were actually a benefit for breaking up the monotony on Raw, now I just walk away during a segment. Women's wrestling is regressing bad, WWE is on the forefront of the lingerie football era and talented gals look trashy as hell now. But Punk/Rollins was pretty good even with a goofy finish and we non-Americans get to see full matches now, that's a big plus. I'll try Raw again once they get used to being on Netflix but until then I'll stick to YouTube clips and searching out the matches that sound good. Hopefully Mania season picks up!
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Hey all! To celebrate the 5th anniversary and the new TV deal I wanted to check in on AEW and post a one-off review before I disappear for another 6 months or maybe forever. I haven’t watched Dynamite for almost a year and the only matches I’ve seen are when Ospreay, Danielson, and Swerve wrestled each other (I also keep up with some WWE people but not many). I’m not on social media but I’ve read things on various sites so I have a vague idea of what’s been going on angle-wise. Hoping to get re-engaged with the product! But let’s be honest, AEW rarely has what I look for out of wrestling or entertainment
Good promo from Mox’s group to start, very ominous and confusing. I’m not sure why they’re declaring war on AEW and nobody else seems to either. The different camera shots don’t do it any favours but hey, maybe they need to splice takes together
Why is Callis catching a flight at the beginning of the show? Is he flying to next week’s town? Sound was muffled so I may have missed something
Ricochet vs Ospreay
In a lot of ways this match is why AEW was founded, so matches nobody saw on the indies can have a wider audience and ex-WWE guys can pretend they haven’t hit their ceiling already. Standard flipping counters to start, a little sluggish if you ask me but it established the story of the match. Some weak strikes and bad fundamentals but they can fly really well so they get to that sooner than later. Ric busts out a couple of good clotheslines and they mirror each other again before the requisite apron spot. I didn’t catch all of it but the match seemed to slow way down during the break. Ospreay flips out of a top rope rana and leaves his back to his opponent for no reason so Ric hits an Oscutter. Dope piledriver from Ric gets 2. The New Japan finisher and counter sequence kicks in for some nearfalls. Not sure about the double pin false finish, if they were just going to do a DQ a minute later they may as well have just kept wrestling. Takeshita rules and should be built up like this
Oh shit, I haven’t seen Sasha since she’s been Mercedes. I was dreading a promo (even I’ve heard how bad they are), the package was a good way to get caught up instead. Whoever designs her gear should be shot
Oh fuck, I haven’t seen Jericho since he’s been the Learning Tree. Why are there high school play props in the ring? Big Bill deserves so much better than this. Mark Briscoe comes across really well, I wish he wasn’t opposite a guy doing an impression of someone pretending to be a bad wrestler who actually is. Bringing Jay into the promo sucked too, this was awful
Is the crowd mic’d poorly or are they not paying attention or what? Pops happen at the oddest times and then don’t happen when they should, and the face-heel dynamic seems loose at best (WWE is guilty of this lately too). Weird stuff
Darby Allin taking more dumb shit. Just because he can’t hack it at a real job doesn’t give him the right to preach self-harm for validation. Grow up, dork. He’s a good talker though, he needs someone to direct him
Adam Page vs Juice Robinson
Page is cooler now, better gear, body, attitude, and music. I had no interest in his and Strickland’s tryhard edgelord feud, glad I can see him on something else and Juice is what you would call a good hand. Fun match once it got in the ring but way too long for what they needed to accomplish. Cut the time of matches like this in half and do some character work with Juice so he can get a better reaction next time. Damn, Jay White more like Jay Tanned amirite?
Bryan and AEW being proud of breaking everything wrestling is based on is not the flex they think it is
Britt Baker vs Serena Deeb
Back and forth grappling to start until Deeb finds an opening and takes control. Glad Serena leaned into heel work, that’s what the crowd needed. Baker is still getting back to her old level and hit a really bad slingblade. This match was too long for a foregone conclusion
Christian happened
Private Party vs Iron Savages
Hey, the ass eating guy. These teams aren’t bad but desperately need an agent to lay things out for them especially one as short as this one
If the Bucks are there, haven't they already wasted a date on that night? And thank the Buck’s God that they didn’t have the tag title match, I’m dreading the overrun as it is
Hell yeah, Shelton Benjamin. Please let Mox try some of his unprofessional garbage with this man
Bryan Danielson vs Kazuchika Okada
I saw the first match live in Toronto and didn’t enjoy it due to the rest of the show, the arm injury, and the shit finish. Didn’t see the rematch and to be honest I’m not excited for this one since it's another foregone conclusion (Bryan wins after at least 20 minutes). Honestly, fuck Tony for starting this match only a few minutes from 10 for how long it took, learn how to time your show. Good limb work from Danielson, Okada moves slowly to run out the clock which is very exciting for an overrun. They worked in all of their highspots and hit each other hard(ish), I guess that makes a good match. Bryan won after at least 20 minutes. A commercial spot in the overrun makes no sense by the way but they bought an extra half hour so they needed to pay for it. By the end I just wanted the show to be over, I had to apologise to my partner for keeping her up late
Overall, it’s still Dynamite. Better production, crowd was up, bigger stars. Fewer amateurish mistakes than before so at least I wasn’t distracted by those the whole time (just some of the time). But this was a boring show. AEW has made fast-paced, high-impact wrestling boring by reducing it to its base components and overusing them so nothing has any meaning anymore. It pains me to watch wrestlers get hurt for a forgettable product and all they need is a real writer/booker/whatever to make all the action feel important. Otherwise, well, it just doesn’t. Not exactly a new thought but it’s still as relevant today as it was a year ago. Until next time!
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Your wrestling HOT TAKES
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I hear you on this and frankly I'm not convinced there isn't something odd going on with HHH too, especially with notably race sensitive comedians Shane Gillis and Tony Hinchcliffe showing up on TV last night. I think the WWE's counter would be that they highlight Samoan and Latino wrestlers in the main events regularly and they are building Black stars for the future so they're in the clear (not my stance but I think they would say that). I wonder if they just don't have That Guy right now. Letting the Hurt Business go was dumb, no question about it, but wasn't that a Vince decision? In terms of the current roster, I'd argue someone like Montez Ford could be elevated with a little effort, maybe Carmelo Hayes too if he can find another gear plus Trick Williams and Oba Femi are on the way, but honestly I'm open to hearing who you think is ready to take that spot right now