Go2Sleep
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Paige, AJ, and Nikki were like the first astronauts sent to a distant planet with minimal resources tasked with making it habitable for future generations even though there was a good chance they wouldn't survive to see its success. The horsewomen are the better-prepared second wave who discover the breakthrough that makes life sustainable.
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Dario Cueto, while being a psychopath, was also a businessman who liked to have a professional, well-rounded product to keep that payoff drawer full. Catrina's motivations are more ambiguous thus far, but she's clearly got more on her mind than bumper music.
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The tag title match was very good. Lots of nice nearfalls, and the finishing run was strong. The turn was logical and executed fine, but that doesn't change the fact that I don't want to see more Jeicho/Styles matches.
Even with the women already doing a triple threat, I wouldn't mind Owens/Zayn/Neville for the IC.
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Lucha Underground won't be everyone's cup of tea. If you don't like it by about Episode 10, you're never gonna like it. Either you're gonna dig the wacky storylines and match style or you won't. That said, the first two episodes are among the worst in the series. Showcasing Blue Demon Jr in back to back weeks isn't the best hook, I know. If you're new to LU, you could probably just start at the S1 Aztec Warfare (Episode 9 I think) and go from there. You won't miss too much (and the important stuff gets recapped) and you'll get a better feel for what you're in for.
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RVD thinks that marijuana can prevent CTE and will donate his brain to science to prove it.
If only more football players and wrestlers smoked weed.
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Is Rey actually gonna wrestle? I'm sure he'll be more physically involved than Konnan, but I get the vibe he'll primarily be a manager.
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Orlando's also already a tourist city, so the logistics are probably a lot better than Minneapolis.
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I'm glad they went with Ambrose/Brock for Mania since it's legit good angle/match which is something that show desperately needs, but I am disappointed if it costs us Brock/Harper. Is Bray even gonna make the main card this year or his best hope winning the battle royal?
HHH/Ambrose will be better than HHH/Roman in every way, unless you're really into trainwreck matches where both guys give up in the first 2 minutes because they know there's zero chance they can win the crowd.
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Owens could definitely withstand a clean job to Styles at this point, especially if he gets a program with Zayn or even champ Roman after Mania.
Even as a "wins and losses matter" guy, I'd still say a loss to AJ in a good match is more high profile than a win over the freaking Big Show.
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27... Shouldn't have fast forwarded all those Ryback main events.
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Neville/Balor in the battle of underappreciated NXT aces was really good. They made Neville look like a big deal despite not doing anything significant for months, and they structured the big finishing run around avoiding finishers rather than taking them and kicking out. They did a good job making it look like the first person to hit a big move was going to win. The escalation was good with Neville's selling of the Pele and subsequent kick flurry, then regaining the edge with a lightning quick German. Then they went into "who can hit their move first" mode and had a couple good teases despite the obviousness of Balor going over.
The drifter is the first person's match I've skipped in probably close to a year and a half on NXT. Nothing about this guy connects at all and his gimmick is all over the place. I guess we can wait and see, but he's looking a lot like more like Solomon Crowe than Baron Corbin. Although Crowe did at least show some occasional flashes of excitement in his matches, Samson has all the in-ring excitement of Curt Hawkins.
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I think the ladder match was the least of the Cuerno/Fenix matches this season. Outside of Cureno's sweet-sounding kicks, there wasn't much in the way of good filler to balance out the obvious spot setups. The opening dive with Cuerno obviously moving the ladder and both guys not even attempting a transition to the truss-hanging spot were particularly glaring. Still some positives here, though, like Fenix's dive over the ladder and his disgusting bump into the ladder from the stands (Vampiro's line "he just broke his ass" made it).
Pentagon/Puma was fun despite the obvious finish. Mil was very effective in his short time, and I'm liking the tease of a power struggle between Mil and Catrina.
Rey being cast as a wise old kung fu master is hilarious to me. I might have missed something obvious, but who is playing Dragon Azteca 2.0?
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Looks like a ton of Lucha Underground guys will be at Wrestlecon Saturday (including Pentagon Jr!) which prompted me to buy tickets to the convention. I would've bought tickets to their supershow also if I didn't have WWN tickets already.
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What is Becky supposed to do in the meantime? You better have a good answer for me.
Have fun out there, entertain the WWE universe, and earn their respect with a great performance as her #Wrestlemania moment.
Sasha's totally pinning/tapping Charlotte for the finish though.
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Pleas bring up Bayley to make this a fatal four way at mania.
What would they do, have the exact same match they had at TO: Rival? I'd rather just have Bayley give 100% against Asuka then debut on Raw.
Mania should be Sasha's moment and rightly so.
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I think I would've like this show a lot 15 years ago. I watch the first episode and there was maybe 2-3 minutes of good content, but it definitely wasn't worth sitting through the other 20.
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So they are not doing the Kevin Owens vs AJ Styles for the IC Title? Instead we are getting Kevin Owens vs the Big Show and fucking AJ Styles vs Chris Jericho IV or Y2AJ vs The New Day?
I hate this fucking company's hatred of simple booking logic on the main roster. God I can't wait for NXT Takeover Dallas.
Yeah, lost in the shittiness of HHH/Roman and Shane/Taker is how terrible the undercard for Mania is shaping up as well. AJ/Jericho 4 has zero value. I wasn't crazy about the idea of a 2/1 split between them, but it served its purpose well enough. These two continuing to be around each other after Fast Lane is ridiculous. AJ gains nothing by going over Jericho again and the match structure doesn't change a lick even if Jericho is a *real heel* this time. This program continuing only benefits Jericho, and I'm not sure why they'd be making his credibility a top priority these days.
Then there's Owens/Show, which could conceivably be fun as a 2-minute squash where Owens goes all high-flyer because he's the little guy for once and of course would be a massive face in this situation. Unfortunately, the more realistic scenario of a standard 5-7 minute match with no adjustment to the face/heel role reversal that Stevie Wonder can see coming is thoroughly unappealing.
You also can't forget that ND/LON with ND delivering vintage WWE scripted babyface comedy is coming down the pipeline too.
I mean using just those guys, you could run AJ/Owens which would be a high-energy match with the right face/heel dynamic, re-unite JeriShow as faces to put over ND in a perfectly acceptable 5-minute filler match, and try to kick the tires on the LON/Wyatts (since they're doing god knows what) feud that looked promising a couple months back. But nah, let's mix and match these pieces into the least interesting combinations instead.
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I will say this for the Sasha/Becky finish: It was a rare "double pin scenario" where both wrestlers' shoulders were down the entire time and both were convincingly on top of each other.
I'm not sure I get the direction they're going with Ambrose/HHH. Do they really think that because the crowd will boo HHH against Ambrose, they will boo him against Roman as well? This doesn't seem the best route unless they're doing a WM 30-esque re-write. Ambrose/HHH should be a hot program (remember their Rumble finish) and will only make HHH/Roman look worse in comparison. Dean's been killing it with his opportunities the last couple of months.
I assume Byron having to take that sloppy bump was punishment for his indiscreet capsule passing last week.
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"I liked your post but not enough to press the like button"
Lol, it's ok cubsfan, just like facebook, supportive comments mean more than likes!
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So I started watching LU about a month ago (from the beginning) and I'm now completely current. I look forward to branching out into a new subforum!
Overall, I just love the the presentation. It's so different than any other wrestling on tv today. It's a much more focused and refined version of WSX, which I was crazy about in 2007. The cinematic "backstage" segments are great, and I love how they just throw suspension of disbelief out the window super early and never look back. You just have to accept that there's a lot of supernatural shit that goes on here. The in-ring parts have more of a "Fight Club" kind of feel, obviously with its own lucha/indy hybrid stylized violence. The main takeaway is that it's just different and after being beat down by WWE for last two years, I'm ready for that.
My quick Season 1 thoughts I'm sure no one cares about because you've all been watching this in real time:
- Puma was a great choice for company ace
- Mil/Fenix casket match was probably MOTY last year
- Angelico's dropkick spot was spot of the decade material
- I liked Mundo throughout the season, but he kicked it up a notch with his heel turn
- Big Ryck turned 3 times in ~30 hours of television (Take that Big Show)
- I totally got the vibe that Alberto did not want to job to Mundo in his last match
- They should've played up Catrina's takeover a little more, but that was great way to end season one
- My favorites were Mil, Puma, Pentagon (who probably top everyone's list), and my underrated fave was Cage
- Only guys I didn't care for were Chavo, Demon, and Daivari
Catching up on Season 2:
I like the new temple setup with Catrina and Mil running things. It's a great way to differentiate the second the season from the first. The seasonal format offers a lot of advantages that wrestling companies don't get. One of the biggest things is giving Ivellise time to heal. I thought their trios team was well built, but Ivellise literally having to wrestle with a broken ankle put a damper on their run. Here, she comes out of the gates firing with the triple threat win and about as respectable a showing against Mil as she could get. The writers were definitely wise to have her supplant Sexy Star as the lead female face. The pop when she finally beats down Catrina will be insane, I'm guessing.
I'm not sure why they had Pentagon break Mil's arm on the first show. It was a cool moment in the heat of things and tells the fans "hey were not gonna fuck around this guy you like this season," but it seemed like maybe too much. Since Mil is now the god-king of the temple, it's not like he really needs an excuse to sit around for weeks at a time not doing anything. I'm sure the eventual Mil/Pentagon match will be badass.
The Gift of the Gods booking is a little erratic thus far, but Cuerno and Fenix are having some good matches out of it. I was hoping for a slower burn with Cuerno eventually manning up to Catrina and Mil. I guess that could still happen. I'm sure some people want more from Cuerno, but for now, he'd be a pretty perfect "first credible guy to stand up to the bully and lose."
The Reyes/Joey Ryan UC story is beyond ridiculous, but it's exactly the kind of thing I love about LU. Plus it's a good way of establishing important characters without needing them to get a lot of wins. They can spend weeks out-stooging each other, and they're still in good position to be credible when the want to pay off the bust or whatever they're going for. Not sure why they're hanging around the temple when it's pretty obvious Cueto's not around, though.
The Dario/Lotus stuff is also delightfully absurd. They could go any number of ways, but it seems like Dario using Matanza to get his temple back, only to have Matanza become even more destructive and worse than Mil Muertes would be a fitting payoff. I do hope they find someone up to the task of playing Matanza, because with all the hype surrounding that character, a lackluster worker in that spot would be damaging to the company.
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I think the only guys to go 100% according to plan since the attitude era were Lesnar and Angle. Even though Brock left at the end of his first contract, they got everything they envisioned from him during his time with the company. Depending on how Rollins shakes out, he might join this group.
You could maybe make the case for Orton even though they botched his big face turn. Everyone else has had significant twists and turns.
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What are they gonna do with Crews. He's a freaky talented athlete that they can't PAY me to care about. Biff was WAY more entertaining in a loss than the dude they've invested all of the time and video packages on.
I think tag team is the way to go. See if he can find his Chad Gable.
The other option, and I know this sounds really counter-intuitive, is maybe ship him up to the main roster. Apollo is a legitimately good worker beyond doing cool moves. The problem is NXT is full of good workers, most of which have much stronger personalities. However, on the main roster, nearly everyone has terrible personalities, and just showing up and doing cool shit and having generally decent matches will go a lot farther with the fans than it does in NXT. I mean at worst he could probably fill Titus O'Neill's (RIP) spot pretty effectively, if not be a solid face counterpart to Owens in the IC picture.
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Sting was part of the Wolfpack, while the WM run-in clearly depicted the original anti-WCW NWO that Sting feuded with for its entire existence.
Not that it matters at all obviously and there have been plenty of more nonsensical things that have happened in wrestling history, but let's not pretend there was any internal continuity.
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Oh my God, I just realized how badly I need the Mean Street Posse to do a run-in at Mania and The Undertaker destroys all of them. Each and every last one of them. I'm excited now!
I was gonna say that would only make sense if Shane was the heel, but then I remembered the NWO helped Sting last year so making sense isn't an issue. Fuck it, bring on the MSP and the Ministry. Mideon, Gangrel, and uh... Acolyte Faarooq I guess.
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Definitely AJ.