Go2Sleep
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How the FUCK has everyone forgotten R-Evolution???
I mean if you put the matches from that show and Brooklyn or Dallas side by side, it might come up a little short but definitely not by much. Combine that with all the great storyline stuff on the show, and I'd easily rank it as the best NXT show ever. You had Kevin Owens debuting as a massively over face in a surprisingly fun match with CJ Parker that had hardway blood and everything. You had the first ever "demon" sighting from Finn. You had a breakout performance from Sasha Banks. You had the Zayn/Neville title match that I'd put among the best matches in NXT history and played out with a perfect feel-good moment. Then you end the show with an epic turn that leaves the crowd in stunned silence, as Owens went from the next big face to the only big heel in seconds. Not to mention the great production trick of doing it all after the copyright graphic had shown. It's one thing to line up a show that's just "great match, great match, great match," but a show that has great matches with this level of storytelling and breakout moments that really set the tone for the future of a promotion... That is pro-wrestling at the highest level.
Rival is underrated for similar reasons. The women's 4-way is the ultimate "horsewomen" match and put over Sasha strong and Owens/Zayn was another masterful piece of storytelling and excellent character work from both guys.
My top 5 would be:
- R-Evolution
- Brooklyn
- Rival
- Dallas
- Respect
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If Gallows and Anderson are repeatedly losing so there's a reason for Finn to come in and put the group over the top, it makes sense.
Owens seems like a guy who's making it to the top no matter what's in front of him. He's a great heel, but the crowds are just dying to cheer for him.
Also, lol at Byron Saxton trying to use a contemporary reference and mispronouncing Rougned Odor's name.
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2 hours ago, JonnyLaw said:
Edge said somewhere he doubted there would be a season 2 any time soon. They apparently did a lot of the writing/editing etc... themselves, and it was very time-consuming.
Guess that explains why it was was the best network original series that wasn't some variation of a shoot interview.
Oh well, better to have loved and lost.
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Shitty news about Emma. Also leaves Dana in a bad spot. I wonder if they'll just pretend she was never there, since I can't imagine her going solo on the main roster.
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I was going through the KOTRs recently, and found a real hidden gem of Owen vs. 123 Kid in 94. It's definitely on the short list for my favorite sub-5-minute match. Kid works an injury angle as a big underdog, and Owen wrestles like the favorite to win the tournament. The pace is really good and there were a lot of good move sequences that seemed really out of place (in a good way) in mid 90s WWF. Opened with back to back dives by the heel, some sharp kicks from Kid, and my favorite spot of Owen catching a heel kick attempt and turning it into a deadlift high angle German. Super fun match that I totally wasn't expecting.
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1 hour ago, RIPPA said:
He said Garcia was one of the names he was told was coming in the 2nd batch of folks (that ended up being Brawler, Christian)
Is this just a formality on his active wrestler deal, or is he out completely? I'm worried about the future of the E/C show...
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6 hours ago, Red is Dead said:
Agreed. The match needs a stip in it.
So what are we thinking. Cage or loser leaves?
I think with an arena brawl setup, it'll probably be a street fight or falls count anywhere. I think those two could do a really good last man standing if they wanna combine everything for a definitive feud-ender. The loser leaves stip could be tacked on to anything, but it seems unnecessary since it looks like Finn is heading out soon one way or the other.
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Michael Buffer has a great voice, but you can tell he didn't know shit about wrestling. Also whoever wrote his cue cards was terrible too. If he had to read special rules or stipulations it was always super awkward like English wasn't his first language or something. I guess if he wrote his own cards, he was really terrible.
On the good side, nothing beats Howard Finkel introducing the Undertaker or declaring a NEEEEEEWWWWW World Wrestling Federation champion.
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Joe/Balor extreme rules or whatever would be fun. They definitely need a gimmick since it's the 3rd straight takeover they're main eventing. NXT doesn't run a lot of hardcore type matches so it feels pretty special when they do.
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Chimel had a good "Jaaaaahn Cena" too.
When they fired/didn't renew Roberts, I remember reports saying they were going "in a different direction." It seemed like that meant "young pretty women," but they've really homogenized how everyone sounds since then too. Didn't really hit me until I listened to Melissa Santos in LU, but no one in WWE as any unique little quirks anymore. Everyone gets introduced the same way from NXT all the way up the line (with the exception of name changes like Cass). I wonder if they have a voice coach or somebody that wrote a master list of intros with inflection cues and everything.
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10 hours ago, Johnny Sorrow said:
What I heard from Zellner on a podcast we were on was that they are totally into the Sasha winning at Summer Slam deal, and she's injury prone so that's why she's not on TV a lot.
*Realizes what could've been*
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2 hours ago, evilwaldo said:
They could cut another five or six and still have too many on the roster.
I'm just saying they usually don't cut more than they already have.
They have to keep some "end of the bench" guys for house show depth and what not.
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The one thing you can't deny about Jose is that he is over. The gimmick as is has a pretty low ceiling, but it's always good to have wrestlers that are over up and down the card. Even if he becomes another Ty Dillinger, that's still a worthwhile role.
Even though I find the Drifter boring personally, I don't object to his use as a JTTS. If the crowd cares about the jobber, they care more about the guy who's beating him, which is always a good thing.
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2 hours ago, Technico Support said:
It's amazing that WWE booking and overexposure have gotten so bad that the best way to book someone as a top contender is to keep them off TV. That is some next level, outside the box shit there. They actually realize their TV gets nobody over. Holy fucking shit.
That approach worked really well for Brock for a couple years, I guess.
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Hard to imagine there's too many more cuts in store (except Adam Rose). They got rid of what, 7 or 8 people last week? That's pretty standard.
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Charlotte could be doing everything she's doing now without the belt. By keeping the belt on her, they're not only losing a chance to showcase someone as the new champ, but also a chance to showcase someone as the next challenger after the obligatory rematch. It's just a waste of a spot when airtime for the women inexplicably at a premium, and there's not any more value than Sasha taking the belt at Summer Slam than there would've been at Mania (especially with the brand new belt and Today Show appearance).
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1 hour ago, Hail Sabin said:
DVR for the May 18th episode talks about a match happening much earlier then I thought it would.
Are you talking about Gift of the Gods or something else? Striker mentioned the GotG match during the triple threat.
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It's funny because from the start of the revolution right up to Mania, they did a great job booking her strong without the title. She won 90% of her matches, and only lost by cheating or her tag partner taking the fall. Guess they don't want to do that anymore?
Looking back, they really screwed the pooch by not having Sasha win at Mania. It's thrown everything completely out of whack. Charlotte got her moment by ending Nikki's reign and held the belt for a good 6 months, Mania was the perfect time to give someone else in the division some shine. Even though Charlotte is very "new generation," she's somehow manages to feel "last generation." It's probably Ric being the center of her angles and feuding with the definitively last-generation Nattie, but the crazy thing is that would've been a perfect non-title feud to really add depth to the division while Sasha was feuding with whoever.
One of the reasons the NXT women's division has been great because the long-term pacing is spot on. Everyone wins and loses the belt at the right moment. It was definitely time for Charlotte to drop the strap at Mania. She already reached her peak value for her first run, and now she's getting diminishing returns at best while the rest of the division is losing value.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who was scratching my head at "death box." It was like some bizarro WWE style term that was designed to sound less family friendly than what it actually was.
Anyway, the casket match was really good. Definitely more along the lines of what I expected from these two. I was also pleasantly surprised by Cuerno's involvement. Poor Mil is going the Taker route of having a specialty match that he never wins.
Havoc/Ivelisse vs. Mundo/Taya should be a fun program.
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Alexa really needs to stop doing that Undertaker choke.
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On 5/9/2016 at 6:35 PM, tbarrie said:
Wait, in what era would Riley have been a big star?
I doubt he could've ever been a star, but he could've lived up to his midcard potential in the early 90s maybe.
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Hopefully Dana's debut is a way to get Sasha back on tv again as Becky's partner.
Decent enough show. The distraction finishes were a bit excessive this week, but the overall direction of the show is so much better than it's been for the last couple of years. The Roman/AJ feud is really good. It's amazing how much better Roman looks when they book him to his strengths.
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I don't know if Cena has a proper comp from the attitude era, but I think the closest fit is actually Taker. Stand-alone guy that succeeded through sheer force of will and a loyalty and dedication to the business that's nearly unmatched. Also supremely talented and charismatic, but his combination of work ethic and attitude are what really set him apart.
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The Hawaii show is Bash at the Beach, and it looks like they wanna try to top Takeover Dallas for show of the year. If anyone from WWE is reading this and is looking for more Japanese star crossover one-off matches, might I suggest Asuka vs. Sasha.
Smackdown Spoilers for 5/19/16
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I think Sheamus is due for a regression. He's been pushed pretty solidly as an upper midcarder for over a year, including MITB and a brief run with the strap that bombed. There isn't much for him to do right now and with the emphasis on the "new generation," there aren't many guys who exemplify early 2010s staleness better than Sheamus. Del Rio is in the same boat.