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I don't know, even Oney Lorcan sounds better than a first name that reads like "jism."
I guess they could end up calling him Spunk Flotsam or something.
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I'll throw out the (maybe) controversial opinion that this show was better than Dallas.
Alpha/Revival is seriously not more than a smidge behind Zayn/Nakamura in my MOTY estimation. Really sharp match where every move mattered, and nothing felt out of place. Gable and Jordan did a good job breaking off their formula early in the match, and their two fired-up babyface spots were the best I've seen in a while. The crowd was hot the whole match, but those two spots made the fans dig extra deep to get even louder. The tag team strategy was also next-level with the blind tags, ref distractions, double teams, partner cutoffs, etc. Just really smart stuff you don't see in WWE these days. The finishing run was great with more focus on back and forth counters and Revival ending up getting the last move in a match that felt like it could've gone either way. This was the match I imagined these teams could have, as I was underwhelmed by their Dallas match.
Aries/Nakamura was also a very high-end match. Great storytelling between two guys who can do so much with just their body language. Aries had a chip on his shoulder and was annoyed by Nak showing off. I liked Austin's double-layered strategy of going after the legs to set up working on the neck to set up the last chancery. There was some good back and forth in the middle with Aries trying to stick to his plan between flurries of strikes and subs from Nak. His plan worked pretty well too, even after Nak got out of the last chancery, he still had the apron DVD to play on the neck work. The best part of the story is that Aries had him dead to rights after that, but just had to go for another flashy killshot. Despite the fact that I'm sure he'll chalk up the loss up to his "injured" ribs, it was his own hubris that did him in and everyone knows it. It'll be a nice progression his slow heel turn when he tries to make excuses.
Nia/Asuka was great as well, and maybe even a little better than I expected they could do. They did a good job staying true to their characters and made the match look like a true test of wills. Asuka was relentless with strikes even when she was on the defensive as well as the flash submissions, while Nia stuck to the power counters. The final powerbomb and slow cover was the only thing that felt out of place, but it wasn't too bad. I think Asuka having a little bit longer of a finishing run would've sold the story of one competitor finally breaking the other one down with their style a little better, but the kick sequence at the end was still really inspired. I was pleasantly surprised when they actually ended there at the right time instead of trying to force more epic-ness when it wasn't necessary.
The other two matches were fine. Almas looked good in his debut, and Tye got some shine too. Joe/Finn was their usual good-but-not-great affair. This match reminded me of Dallas except with escape attempts replacing blood cleanups as groan-inducing momentum-killers. The finish was pretty sick, though.
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On 6/7/2016 at 4:40 PM, alstein said:
the WCW limit was 235 at one point.
I thought it was 225, but that still always seemed ridiculous to me since that's well into heavyweight territory in any other combat sport.
I remember Jericho making Prince Iaukea weigh in to prove he was under 225 (and then hitting him with the scale of course).
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You could make a good clickbait quiz called "NXT Wrestler or Porn Star."
Austin Aries... Alexa Bliss... Dash Wilder...
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Oney Lorcan
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MITB season is the 50/50-est time of the year.
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7 hours ago, nate said:
His (Zayn's) name in Arabic, though.
I think it was on Jericho's podcast, Sami described his name as "undercover Arab." Something to honor his Syrian heritage, but still sounds Anglo enough to not scare American fans.
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I don't know that the two posts have that much to do with each other. Cena is Cena... Of course he feels like he belongs in any major angle. The Club does well to carry themselves as a worthy challenge to him. New Day, on the other hand, feel like the guys The Club should destroy especially with AJ involved. Then let the cards fall where they may against Cena.
I think it has as much to do with ND's act not "moving up the card" as well as faces vs. when they were heels as it does with The Club actually having a "shit's about to get real" aura.
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Gotta give credit to whoever laid out the finish to Del Rio/Zayn. It was the best setup for the Warrior's Way ever, particularly the first tease with the step-up enzuigiri. They combined of bunch of moves Del Rio regularly uses to not only make the setup not look awkward and fake, but actually look smooth and logical.
Does anyone else think New Day looks really "small" next to The Club? Not physically, but just in terms of overall presence? When I watch the two groups interact on tv, I don't feel like the Club should be threatened at all, which is odd because ND has been booked way stronger as a unit. The Club just kind of has this natural badass charisma similar to what The Shield or Wyatt Family had in their heydays. Even if I had zero knowledge about WWE booking patterns, I'd assume it was a foregone conclusion Anderson and Gallows are taking the tag titles soon.
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I do think he's a great team defender, I was just thinking about his man defense in the context of 96 rules (which I might still be underrating). Although he could be a terrible defender and it would be irrelevant in a hypothetical series where he's matched up with 32yo Ron Harper and occasionally Steve Kerr.
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As soon as player Kerr checks in, he's getting backed down by Shaun Livingston or left in a cloud of dust by Steph every possession.
Not sure how the Bulls would win, even under 96 rules. Can't double Steph to get the ball out of his hands without leaving a 3-pt shooter wide open, and the shorter 3 line means that Barnes, Speights, and Iggy all turn into extra Klay Thompsons on offense. The 1/4 and 1/5 PnR's would get real ugly for Chicago too. I don't think the Bulls have enough scoring to keep up even if their length could present some OKC-like problems on defense. The physicality argument seems pretty overrated too. Outside of Steph and Speights, everyone in the regular rotation for GS is an above average defender, and the team is far from "soft." Pretty sure if you gave Dray, Bogut, and Iggy license to goon, they'd be up to the task.
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Dolph Ziggler's stranglehold on worst name in the company might be in jeopardy.
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I don't see how a Brock loss in UFC would hurt him in WWE. He was still super over in 2012 coming off two first-round losses in UFC (and even after losing his first match to Cena). His aura in WWE is indestructible, especially post WM 30. Even after a year and a half of bad booking and lazy performances, his music still inspires a reaction the rest of the roster can only dream of.
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4 hours ago, nofuture said:
This just went from funny bad to horrible bad quickly:
This reminds me of when friend of a friend did a terrible homemade parody of The Happening. You can't parody something that's already a comedy.
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I have to imagine there's some backstage drama and re-writes going on with Seth. This documentary (and how much it gets promoted on air) and Seth going out and performing "Heel Cliches 101" every week just doesn't feel like the same person making both decisions.
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2 hours ago, hammerva said:
As sad as this sounds, would you argue that this is the biggest thing to happen to TNA since the Claire Lynch storyline in terms of national wrestling exposure.
Aces and Eights maybe?
Matt and Jeff's home movie is definitely the most I've seen this board talk about TNA in the last 5 years other than "Are they getting a tv deal/Are they finally dead?"
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I think Aries has been really good in NXT since Dallas. He's turned himself heel without doing anything that screams "I'm a heel now!" Just a few timely eye-rolls and occasional whiny tone in his voice and he's not even getting a face reaction against the Drifter. The contrast with Nakamura being so effortlessly popular has made for a great feud.
I wouldn't be surprised if he has the same career revival as Joe did last year.
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3 hours ago, sydneybrown said:
I think Goldberg goes in eventually because sooner or later WWE's going to run out of guys who aren't dead. You guys do realize if the HOF keeps this pace, 10-20 years down the line guys like Miz and R-Truth are going in, right?
Truth is pretty comparable career-wise to Godfather, Bossman, and Rikishi who all went in the last couple of years. Miz is way above all 4 of them. Pretty much anyone who works for the company for a few years and doesn't leave on bad terms has a pretty good shot at the WWE HOF.
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1 hour ago, Mistah Na1m4rk said:
I think Cobb is just fine as Matanza and fits the character better than I would guess Cage would. Cage works fine as someone who loves complex and contrived throws, Cobb has made his deadlift-heavy style a natural extension of what a Matanza should be, and frankly I think he's got a bit of a babyface so the mask makes him properly scary in a way he wouldn't be otherwise. I'm sure Cage would have done a fine and credible job but I'm perfectly happy with how things turned out.
I remember reading that Marty the Moth was considered to be Mil Muertes, now THAT would have been a damn shame. I like Marty well enough but Ricky Banderas has owned that character perfectly.
Like I said, I don't think Cobb has been bad. It just seems like Cage's skillset and demeanor would be more credible as an indestructible monster. He doesn't look like he's even giving up that much speed to the rest of the roster in addition to being the biggest guy there now. I also think he projects being an unstable psychopath with his body language better (like the way he hits people with no hesitation and his no-sell pose) even as a face. Also his finishers are a lot better. Even the goofy-looking Weapon X hits with way more impact than Cobb's reverse powerslam. Cobb should be using that dead-lift snap-German thing he busted out this week as a finish. I don't think "contrived" offense should be a concern in LU, especially if the character supposedly has some supernatural connection to the ancient Aztec tribes. Matanza should pretty much be peak luchador.
Moth as Mil would've been a waste on both fronts, since Banderas is a better worker, and Moth's biggest asset is his creepy face.
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I can't help but think that if LU could do it all over again from the beginning, they would've been better off casting Brian Cage as Matanza. Cobb hasn't been terrible or anything, but it just seems like Cage would've been perfect for the role. He's bigger, has more agility, better moves, better presence, works best when he doesn't have to sell much, and seems to have a better sense of how to put together an epic match.
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Going down the TNA video rabbit hole on youtube thanks to Matt and Jeff's home movie, I learned that James Storm pushed Mickie James off a railroad platform (possibly into an oncoming train) last year. How did that angle play out?
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Has Matt been using that accent on tv or is it just something he pulled out for this video?
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I loved Nia's "Scared of what?" *shrug* when she left the ring. It hit me that she's badly miscast as a heel. Casual ass-kicking face would suit her a lot better, but I guess Asuka's got the market cornered on that.
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The E/C show definitely needs to come back for Season 2 now, so they can do another "Hardy's Home Movies" segment.
At least there will be some good botchamania endings out of the new Hardys vid.
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WCW Monday Nitro Omnibus Thread
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I see that they've uploaded 1999 Nitros through August. Has anyone dared to revisit any of those?