Go2Sleep
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Was the opening squash the first tag match ever where none of the four guys had a name? That was some super awkward commentary.
Finn/Nak sounds great, but I still hope Finn goes main roster soon. He's in the same place Neville was where he really has done everything he can do in NXT. Plus if he joined The Club, he could be a proper heel and the Shinsuke match would be all the better for it.
In a perfect world, Bayley would be in that same spot too, but Raw's back to one 5-minute segment a week for the women, so hopefully she can get a fresh feud going in NXT.
Blake and Murphy are toast. Murphy's a decent enough hand that he might get to stick around as a JTTS, but I bet Blake isn't with the company this time next year.
I'd really like to see a double turn with Dillinger and Almas.
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11 hours ago, cwoy2j said:
There are some times where I can't believe they would see HBK come to the arena and actually let him on tv.
IYH: It's Time
Shawn does guest commentary during the Bret/Sid match, and it's an all-time "no condition to perform" performance. I'm not sure how Vince held it together out there. You'd think someone in back would've thought "Hmm, Shawn's obviously fucked up on like 10 different kinds of pills, maybe we shouldn't give him a live mic for 15 minutes."
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I always thought snug was for holds and stiff was for strikes.
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It might have been a tipoff to a long-time wrestling fan, but it still got a good reaction.
Sheamus and Sandow prove that MITB isn't an automatic pop, the crowd has to give somewhat of a shit about you before hand. Now if they had Mizdow cash in on a weakened Seth Rollins, that would've been huge.
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7 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said:
ADR isn't going to win MITB. They only went with Sheamus last year because he was the planned winner for the prior year, but got hurt before the PPV.
Sheamus was the planned winner the year Rollins won? Not sure I believe that.
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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:
Del Rio probably will win MITB because anyone else will get cheered over Roman, while Roman/Del Rio will pretty much give you a dead crowd.
That would be hilarious if they tried this two years in a row. Pencil in Big Show for MITB 2017.
I think there's two good options for the case this year. Number one is Owens, since he's the ideal MITB-carrying heel. He'll be obnoxious and throw it in everyone's face, but he can also believably cash in any time and is absolutely ready to be a top guy. The second option is Ambrose. You could have Rollins beat Roman, then Ambrose cashes in right after to set up the vaunted Shield triple threat. I know some people here aren't crazy about that match because it's been talked about so much, but I think it would get a lot of heat in real life. And lord knows Roman needs angles he doesn't have to get over by himself.
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For those who like wrestling and basketball, this happened at Game 5 tonight, apparently:
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3 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said:
It won't be perfect because instant money trumps long term success.... but it will be better than what we have now.
It sounds like it's gonna be 2 of exactly what we have now.
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I'd like to be wrong, but I have a feeling the second brand split era is going to be really bad.
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Wow, we've actually gotten to the point where people are unironically advocating for dead crowds.
SpoilerNext post:
"I didn't say I wanted crowds to be dead, I just want them to react at the exact times and with the exact intensity that I, a true fan, would in their situation."
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Orton has some good commercial break antics. There was one time he got on the mic and complained about having to spend a night in Des Moines.
For most guys though it's "*Heel* has taken control can *face* get back in it as Raw rolls on?" -> Both guys lay on the floor -> Roll in -> Resthold -> "We're back live on Monday Night Raw and *heel* has been dominating throughout the break."
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So how do you pronounce "Gzim" for real?
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4 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said:
Was the missed spot in Dallas really that off putting for the match? That was the hottest tag match I've seen in years.
It was a really terrible botch. Not only did the spot itself look bad, but they didn't make any attempt to work around it. Dash and Dawson just stood there and absorbed "you fucked up" and "botchamania" chants for nearly a minute. They should've audibled straight to the hot tag after the miss.
Even aside from that spot, though, the action wasn't as smooth and all 4 guys weren't utilized as well throughout the match. It was still good, but The End was just a next-level match where everything flowed perfectly. The End match was a match comprised entirely of the very best parts of the Dallas match with none of the miscues or slow parts.
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I think that has to do with the stage/production crew which is the same for both shows.
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46 minutes ago, Casey said:
There's been a noticeable trend of people on this board hating any crowd that chants stuff or doesn't go along with what the company wants the crowd to do. A lot of people see it purely as the crowd trying to get themselves over (which is the dumbest fucking idea) instead of the crowd actually getting into the show and getting behind people they actually like. Case in point, the comment above me. "Sense of entitlement", "act too smart". It's 2016, this is how wrestling crowds act. If you don't like that, go to an indie show in Alabama or whatever where the members of the audience just pull weapons out on the talent. Gotta think some people probably enjoy that, since it takes them back to the "good ol' days of 'rasslin" or something.
You're probably onto something with it being an offshoot of the "wrestling isn't like it was when I was a kid anymore" mindset. Even if you hate the dueling chants and "this is awesome" style chants that have been a part of wrestling for over 10 years now, the Full Sail crowd really isn't overtly obnoxious in that context either. They probably stick to company-approved face/heel lines better than any crowd in North America.
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I have no idea why people hate the Full Sail crowd. They provide energy up and down the card, stick pretty close to face/heel lines, and are usually pretty patient with the green wrestlers (Eva Marie being the notable exception). Most of the high end matches in Full Sail are made better by the crowd. I assume anyone who watched the Alpha/Revival match and still has a negative word to say about them just hates fun.
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4 hours ago, Kyuubi said:
Did they set up Rey Mysterio vs Prince Puma because I can sense some animosity between the two?
Also, I wonder who is going to face team douchebag for the trios title at Ultima Lucha.
They teased Rey/Puma last week too with Puma being upset about Rey and DAJ being all secretive then Rey getting mad about Puma getting the blatant DQ in the trios title match. The trios title has to be Drago, Aerostar, and Fenix. Drago and Aerostar have the season-long feud with Jack and PJ, and Mundo beat up Fenix to take his spot in the title win.
The Ultima Lucha card looks like it's almost completely set
- Pentagon vs. Matanza
- Team Douche vs. Fenix/Drago/Aerostar
- Rey vs. Puma
- Mil vs. Cuerno
- Lotus vs. DAJ
- Moth vs. Killshot
- Kobra vs. Daga
I'm sure there will be something with Cisco/Reyes/Ryan and Havoc/Ivelisse/Angelico as well. I could see Cage/Texano being thrown together last minute since they're the biggest names with no angles at the moment. Or all of them could be thrown into a clusterfuck match I guess.
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Didn't realize this season was so much shorter than last year.
I liked the nunchucks match a lot. Drago's bit where he was playing king of the hill with Jack and PJ was hilarious.
I also laughed at Vampiro bringing up an obscure 1999 WCW match on commentary to (hopefully ironically) put himself over. It should be noted that Vampiro did lose that match. It was a 6-man with ICP against the Filthy Animals.
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I see that they've uploaded 1999 Nitros through August. Has anyone dared to revisit any of those?
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I don't know, even Oney Lorcan sounds better than a first name that reads like "jism."
I guess they could end up calling him Spunk Flotsam or something.
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I'll throw out the (maybe) controversial opinion that this show was better than Dallas.
Alpha/Revival is seriously not more than a smidge behind Zayn/Nakamura in my MOTY estimation. Really sharp match where every move mattered, and nothing felt out of place. Gable and Jordan did a good job breaking off their formula early in the match, and their two fired-up babyface spots were the best I've seen in a while. The crowd was hot the whole match, but those two spots made the fans dig extra deep to get even louder. The tag team strategy was also next-level with the blind tags, ref distractions, double teams, partner cutoffs, etc. Just really smart stuff you don't see in WWE these days. The finishing run was great with more focus on back and forth counters and Revival ending up getting the last move in a match that felt like it could've gone either way. This was the match I imagined these teams could have, as I was underwhelmed by their Dallas match.
Aries/Nakamura was also a very high-end match. Great storytelling between two guys who can do so much with just their body language. Aries had a chip on his shoulder and was annoyed by Nak showing off. I liked Austin's double-layered strategy of going after the legs to set up working on the neck to set up the last chancery. There was some good back and forth in the middle with Aries trying to stick to his plan between flurries of strikes and subs from Nak. His plan worked pretty well too, even after Nak got out of the last chancery, he still had the apron DVD to play on the neck work. The best part of the story is that Aries had him dead to rights after that, but just had to go for another flashy killshot. Despite the fact that I'm sure he'll chalk up the loss up to his "injured" ribs, it was his own hubris that did him in and everyone knows it. It'll be a nice progression his slow heel turn when he tries to make excuses.
Nia/Asuka was great as well, and maybe even a little better than I expected they could do. They did a good job staying true to their characters and made the match look like a true test of wills. Asuka was relentless with strikes even when she was on the defensive as well as the flash submissions, while Nia stuck to the power counters. The final powerbomb and slow cover was the only thing that felt out of place, but it wasn't too bad. I think Asuka having a little bit longer of a finishing run would've sold the story of one competitor finally breaking the other one down with their style a little better, but the kick sequence at the end was still really inspired. I was pleasantly surprised when they actually ended there at the right time instead of trying to force more epic-ness when it wasn't necessary.
The other two matches were fine. Almas looked good in his debut, and Tye got some shine too. Joe/Finn was their usual good-but-not-great affair. This match reminded me of Dallas except with escape attempts replacing blood cleanups as groan-inducing momentum-killers. The finish was pretty sick, though.
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On 6/7/2016 at 4:40 PM, alstein said:
the WCW limit was 235 at one point.
I thought it was 225, but that still always seemed ridiculous to me since that's well into heavyweight territory in any other combat sport.
I remember Jericho making Prince Iaukea weigh in to prove he was under 225 (and then hitting him with the scale of course).
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You could make a good clickbait quiz called "NXT Wrestler or Porn Star."
Austin Aries... Alexa Bliss... Dash Wilder...
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Oney Lorcan
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[NXT SPOILERS] For JUNE 15, 2016
in WWE PROGRAMMING
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One guy was eliminated with a kick/sideslam combo that looked good, but they also used a generic clothesline/russian leg sweep on the other guy for pin. Hopefully they use the first one more.