Go2Sleep
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Bossman in 2000 for dick-punching everyone in sight.
Also, Pete Gas gets a "worst appearance" nod for botching a slide into the ring.
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18 minutes ago, caley said:
Eh makes sense to have your two best big-match workers on different shows.
I didn't see anything about which shows Zayn and Nakamura would be on... #kiddingnotkidding (edit, come on JCM!!)
On a more serious note, I'm not being obtuse, I get why they're doing it. Cena is the ultimate safety valve, and they see Roman as a future Cena-level guy. It's just disappointing since they work exactly the same and are booked exactly the same. The only real appeal to a brand split is uniqueness between the shows, but if both aces are essentially the same guy, it undermines that a lot.
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1 hour ago, RIPPA said:
- Almost virtual lock that Cena and Reigns will be the top two guys split between the show
This is the most discouraging note, imo.
I mean I know it's probably going to be the case anyway, but this just really hammers home the fact that it's going to be 2 current Raws, not current Raw plus a more flexible, experimental product.
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I'm not crazy about a brand split, especially with Raw having 3 hours and SD only having 2. I can't see SD not becoming ECW-level over time since more things will need to be put on Raw to fill time.
In theory, that could be mitigated by putting the entire women's division on Raw with more call-ups and a women's tag division so that they end up getting approximately 1 hour of tv time (40 minutes of content) per week. This would be unprecedented levels of exposure for women's wrestling in WWE, and would keep the talent and exposure levels more equal between the men on both shows. I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see this happening.
I'm kind of torn on the floating champion. If it means women's title and CW title matches can main-event single-brand shows, I'd be down. If it just means one brand is in stall mode for a few weeks between major shows, forget it.
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Del Rio in MITB? Woof.
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Making Rollins a heel instead of a tweener is so stupid. Despite the stupid catchphrase, Roman has settled into that ace tweener role pretty nicely. It would've been super easy to recreate the same dynamic Roman and AJ had with Roman and Seth. Plus a Rollins face turn is long overdue, hopefully the sudden coldness between him and Steph is a step in that direction.
Didn't mind Jericho beating Crews too much. Again, that's the level of guy Jericho should be beating before he loses to an Ambrose/AJ level guy. I'm not sure I dig the Sheamus/Crews feud developing. Maybe if it was Sheamus in 2010, but the current version is not only heatless but is approaching peak apathy every time he's on camera. On paper it might seem like a good idea, but I don't think it's likely to help Crews in practice.
The Charlotte segment was good booking even if it went too long. Ric needed to be put back on the shelf for a while. His walk of shame was cheesy-funny.
One thing that seems to be getting overlooked is that AJ and Owens had a really great match. It was about as good of Raw-style match as you could have, which is impressive because every match being laid out the same on Raw for the last couple of years has really limited the number of great matches that happen on the show. They spaced out their moves well, hit all their complex sequences cleanly, and went a little above and beyond to protect AJ with the powerbomb on the steps.
The writing team didn't do AJ any favors by making him do the Daniel Bryan "Hey hardcore fans, I'm one of your favorites and I like Roman Reigns, so you should too" promo then making him sound like an asshole to Gallows and Anderson. It makes sense for people to be disappointed with that, but the silver lining is he's probably got a series of matches with Finn Balor on the horizon.
I like the MITB in lineup a lot thus far. Jericho's the only whatever participant, and he'll just be eating everyone's big moves primarily. You already have two realistic winners with Owens and Ambrose that would make for good storylines eventually. My guess is the last two spots go to Neville, then either AJ in a second-chance multi-man match or Finn.
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3 hours ago, evilwaldo said:
Ziggler when he cashed in and the Royal Rumble match where he looked like a new champion.
I thought Ziggler's last stand was when he got kicked in the head by Swagger. He just cashed in MITB to an all-time pop and looked like he was finally gonna break through after years of floundering. Then he gets potatoed by Swagger before his first defense giving him a concussion and a few weeks on the shelf. His first match back was dropping the strap to Del Rio. The match was a MOTDC to be fair, but it still seemed like that was Dolph's last chance, especially with Bryan on the rise at the same time.
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1 hour ago, Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 said:
NXT season 1 and 2 were so fun. The good old days when WWE took the future of their company, put them on TV, gave them horrible ring names, made them do unflattering challenges, and openly shit all over them. I'd say a lot of guys had their moments their.
They salvaged the S1 guys with the Nexus angle, but McGillicutty and Cottonwood both had on-screen career deaths in S2. Kaval had a couple embarrassing moments as well, but his attitude backstage did him in more than anything on tv.
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Who does everyone think should win MITB next month?
I think AJ or Owens would be the best picks. For AJ, it's a good way to keep him relevant while he goes back to the upper midcard for a bit and lets him back in the title picture later. Owens is ready to take the next step for sure, and he's pretty much the blueprint for a MITB-carrying heel.
My ridiculous fantasy scenario is a debuting Finn Balor, with the help of a certain club.
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1 hour ago, Stevie Ray Von Erich said:
When Cole and JBL mentioned that Jericho had been in every WWE match type I spent the rest of the match thinking of all the kinds of matches he's never had.
My buddy and I did the same thing. Other than obvious one-offs like kennel from hell, the major ones we came up with were I quit, strap, stretcher, inferno, tables, and chairs (although he's been in a couple TLCs).
Oh, and the show was ok I guess. If AJ had won with that WM 17 finish, that would've been badass. I'm happy to see Seth back, hopefully he gets a new finisher. Also the Vaudevillains are officially dead. Xavier Woods kicking out of your established team finisher with no shenanigans? See you guys on Superstars.
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On 5/19/2016 at 6:42 PM, Thomas Bugg said:
I'll throw in Eddie and Benoit from 2005. They were number one and two, so they spent a majority of the opening minutes having a technical wrestling match. Then Daniel Puder gets in the ring and they commence to whoopin his ass. Then Hardcore Holly gets in there and they really begin teaming up to make Puder their bitch!
Even though it's shitty for 3 dudes to stiff a rookie like that when he can't defend himself, I did admire the creativity of Holly waiting til Hurricane's entrance to dump Puder so he didn't even get the dignity of an on-camera elimination. That was next-level hazing.
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I think my favorite episode was oddly the Miz/Axel/Truth one. Even though those are 3 guys I usually fast forward on tv, they all seemed really cool and likeable in this setting.
I did like the recent "forgotten generation" women too. Molly seems to be like the most normal person in wrestling.
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Just realized that if Dario had called Chavo "the scourge of the illustrious Guerrero family" during the GotG ceremony, it would've been a top 5 LU moment.
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44 minutes ago, just drew said:
But there's a whole roster's worth of pre-nXt guys who are never gonna end up getting a fair shake because they got shoved onscreen too soon with no real plan.
I don't think this applies to Cody. He got lots of different pushes and gimmick makeovers, the problem was none of them ever got that over, except for his ironic mustache.
He's still relatively young, though. He fits the profile of a guy who could have a WWE resurgence after a successful stint in Japan.
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Pretty sure Son of Perfect never had a chance after this promo
Also, the end of Matt Striker's WWE announcing career:
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Overall that might be the worst episode of LU since the first 3 weeks of season 1.
Why did they run a 4-way clusterfuck on the same show as a 7-way clusterfuck? And with almost the same ending?
Killshot/Moth was decent, but the feud setup is super lazy.
The GotG match was supposed to make Cage look smart, but they could've done it better. No reason for him to kill everyone else in the match, and they could've gotten some mileage out of Cage daring Chavo to step up to Matanza while he waits for the arbitrary no-challenge defense to kick in. Instead they just keep making up the rules as they go along with that belt.
I did like Dario doing his Jericho Slamboree 98 tribute for the opening ceremony, though. "Is it Trece? Barrio Negro? Oh, it's Sinestro de la Muerte. Ooh, spooky!"
Finally, that Pentagon/Vampiro German dungeon porn segment had to be one of the more fucked up segments in wrestling history. I'll give LU a tentative pass since the artistic license they've taken has produced more hits than misses thus far, but still... No more of that please.
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Batista, 2014 Royal Rumble.
Oh, and Kofi when he was feuding with Orton. He had that MSG moment then pinned Orton at Survivor Series, but then lost both singles matches clean.
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5 hours ago, MORELOCK said:
And for all the talk about viewers getting burned out on the repetitiveness, I don't know how many people are actually watching RAW and saying "Fucking Kalisto-Del Rio AGAIN? You know, I don't give a shit anymore, I'm not watching next week." We all complain about it here, but we're still watching.
I wonder how much DVR has helped in regards to things like this. I don't know anyone that watches Raw live unless they're actually at the show. I wonder how many people would tune in every week if they couldn't reach for the x4 button for every Del Rio match, Sheamus match, McMahon promo, 3rd replay of the opening segment, etc. Not to mention commercials during every match.
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Wrestling belts have been props forever.
As for Cena, I'm not really sure if he'll break the record or not. Whether he does win the belt again soon or not will be a nice measurement of how serious they are about the "new generation" though.
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It's really too bad, because it was great seeing Del Rio motivated and over in LU. It's sad watching a guy with that much talent just mail it in and be one of the most boring guys in the company, but I guess you can't argue with the paycheck.
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I definitely appreciate the diversity of answers to my question, although it's what I expected. I was just trying to come up with a top 10 network-era (starting at Arrival) NXT matches in my head to kill some time while driving and I realized either Sami or Sasha was in like my top 8. It gets tough after that.
My top choices were Balor/Owens from the 3/25/15 weekly show and Bayley/Asuka from Dallas.
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Nia definitely worked a lot stiffer in some spots, which is probably the easiest thing she can do to look a lot better. She's the biggest woman in the division, so her offense needs to look like it hurts, plus weak shit won't fly against Asuka. I feel like the Nia/Bayley match was a few minutes too long. There were some good stretches, but also some parts where Nia didn't know where to go with the filler. Nia's still a little ways off, but I like that you can see noticeable improvements from 3 months ago.
Aries was great in his match as well. He told the whole story with his face, and his subtle frustration contrasted nicely with Nakamura's eccentric aloofness.
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Roman is the king of getting the wrong reaction in the Rumble, but 2014 was the time it worked for him. The Shield was red hot and Batista was ice cold.
Also Santino in 2011 was pretty cool.
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Sheamus as champ was the worst stretch of WWE tv in the last two years, which covers some ground. The pop for that match was all Vince. Anyone would've gotten that pop in the same spot. Sheamus had zero heat before or after that match.
WWE BRAND SPLIT 2.0
in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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It's probably more of a short-term/near-future plan to boost SD's value on USA.
Once the pressure for joint-shows and "special appearances" by big names starts to mount, it'll fall apart just like the last one.