Elsalvajeloco
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27 minutes ago, The Green Meanie said:
Black don't crack, and neither does TAKA.
You say that this in the same thread where someone posted a picture of Tony Schiavone 25 years apart and he doesn't have a single strand of white hair.
He also has a black goatee.
The man is Benjamin Button.
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3 hours ago, SovietShooter said:
Without Googling it, Vaquer has wrestled against or with Lluvia, La Catalina, and Zeuxis like a billion times. She is also flying back and forth between countries every week and also between Mexico City and Guadalajara. She also wrestled AZM tonight at Windy City Riot. She is absolutely killing it.
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1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:
Curt was definitely sticking the Z-Man's head in the toilet that year.
Curt looks mischievous as fuck, man. He looks like the dude who might set the whole school on fire.
41 minutes ago, username said:You may not believe this but I legit only looked up one WWE guy and one AEW guy, based on who generally seems to be wrestling the most. If I happened to guess the person who worked the most for each company then... well then I watch too much wrestling but that's neither here nor there. If anything that means my feel is probably about right, that the typical WWE guy in a given spot is working a bit more than the equivalent in AEW. Neither of them are working the old WWE schedule thank god (or a current lucha schedule apparently), but the AEW guys who aren't working a bunch of indies are working a bit less and that's fine.
That said... since the comparison was brought up before and it seemed fair I looked up Rollins and in 2023 he worked just over a hundred matches, if Ospreay hits that number in a year in AEW even working the occasional NJPW show I will gladly say I'm completely wrong
You know if you wrestle 100 matches this year for WWE, they give you free Pizza Hut for a year.
That's either a reward or punishment.
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4 minutes ago, jaedmc said:
The answer to the Frankie Lancaster question will be someone you can't remember right now. You won't know who the Frankie Lancaster is until the next time you watch the show and go "Oh shit that guy's been here a while, why didn't I think of him?"
I think there is an episode of What Happened When recently where Frankie Lancaster runs out as one of the extras to break something up or he's in like a random match. It led to this exchange.
Tony: I think that's Frankie Lancaster.
Conrad:.....Who the fuck is Frankie Lancaster?!
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Just now, JLowe said:
Butcher is maybe the closest to The Gambler. I don’t remember Frankie Lancaster.
Lancaster was around a LONG time in the business. Not Chick Donovan lifer long, but a good amount of time. He was Frank/Frankie Lane in the territory days (mainly Florida, but stints in Memphis, World Class, Mid Atlantic, Georgia, Mid South and UWF, Puerto Rico, and Continental). He also got to tag with Curt Hennig in All Japan. He did various stints with WCW. However, he did a bunch of enhancement matches on Saturday Night and Worldwide and other syndicated shows.
Lancaster is one those guys who was the definition of a vanilla wrestler down to the name. Good hand though.
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I know when it came to Hogan and his pay, Bischoff absolutely denied the shifting around of money when it came to Meltzer reporting that WCW moved Hogan's salary around to make it appear WCW was more profitable than they actually were. On subsequent shows, Bischoff said other divisions within Turner got to move their losses over to WCW. So I am assuming his take is indeed that WCW had to take on everyone's losses as opposed to it being the other way around. My question is when did that stop if it did happen? If you have a budget and stay within that budget, does those losses being move over count against your budget?
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If the artist in question wasn't "cancelled", there could be room for a T-shirt in wrestling with "I Don't See Nothing Wrong With a Little Bump N Grind". Matter of fact, surprised that there wasn't a PWG event titled that.
9 minutes ago, Raziel said:Nikita straight up looks like a dude I went to High School and was on the wrestling team with. Just with more hair.
...Did he talk like Nikita? Especially being on the wrestling team.
I am just picturing a guy looking and built like Aleksandr Karelin tossing people around like little children but with a ridiculous, over the top phony accent.
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I take it all of those are not pictures as seniors and just ones they could find. Zenk looks like fucking McLovin in his picture while Brady Boone and Nikita look like 25 going on 35. Nord either could be 17/18 or 23.
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I believe Steve Simpson relocated to Lithuania.
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Didn't know that. Was WWF planning on having a trios title or something? Given how great Yoko looked when he came in and definitely how he was presented, I think they knew it would've been easier to slide him into one of the vacant slots up at the top since 1992 going into 1993 was pretty hectic. They also never presented Afa as one of the top managers or as a real mouthpiece. Plus, in the first year or so, the Headshrinkers aren't pushed above a certain level despite absolutely murdering jobbers every week. That is when Yoko is pretty much pushed as WWF champion or the guy about to challenge for the WWF title. Would they have gotten a bigger push if Rodney is in the mix?
It's also funny that when Samu quit a couple years later, one or two of the shows tapings weren't fully caught up. So there is one week where Fatu is with Sionne who had just been inserted into the mix. Then, the next week Fatu is with Samu in his last televised match as a Headshrinker. Either the same week or the next week, he is then back with Sionne. I believe the official explanation is (or explanations are) LOL IT'S A TRIO, Samu ate some bad fish, and also Captain Lou wants it to be a surprise which tag team it will be. However, obviously, you never see all three together. The thing is...it makes absolutely zero sense.
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So who is The Gambler and my personal favorite Frankie Lancaster?
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On 4/12/2024 at 2:58 AM, Death From Above said:
I would disagree that he always fought the same way. His defensive movement was significantly more active and generally better when he was young and there was a point he just either couldn't keep it up at that pace or got lazy. The guy that got caved in for 7 rounds by Lewis was a shell of the guy he was years earlier. His feet might as well have been glued in place by then.
I was talking in terms of his aggression. Yes, when he was younger, defensively he was much better than post prison Mike Tyson. However, BloodyChamp's point was that he wouldn't be motivated like he should be and that it would take smack talk to get him ignited. Whether it was something heated like the Razor Ruddock fights or whether it something where there was no trash talk and it was extremely professional, Mike was coming to fuck you up. It was never a question of motivation. I think by the time he was 30, that style that mystified and terrorized everyone and was so scary hadn't been refined or adjusted to a new era of boxing. That goes especially if you no longer have the legs you use to have. The Tyson that fought Bruno in 1989 was much different than the one in 1996 that fought Bruno again. Bruno hurt Mike in the first fight, Mike recovered, and then absolutely pummeled Bruno. After prison, Mike was trying do much of the same thing but giving you way less movement and feints. So when he fought Holyfield, who was use to taking inhumane levels of punishment by that time, he was tremendously predictable. When he fought Botha coming off the layoff, Botha was giving him trouble just by dancing around. Mike lands one massive punch and it was over. It was a Wilder thing where I am just going to wait for a 5 second opening where you make a bad mistake or have a defensive lapse and just dedicate myself to landing one good volley. His stamina was pretty much gone.
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2 hours ago, odessasteps said:
The company had 6/7 bad years (depending on how you classify 1989) and then had 2 red hot years. Easy to belive the bubble would burst (finger poked).
I would say it's always tough when you basically inherited another business that wasn't doing well. To me, WCW truly begins at 1990 when most of the Crockett stuff in terms of talent has been shaken out. Most of the people who wanted to go work for Vince have. Most of the stuff you identify with JCP is gone.
So the first few years were really rough though IIRC the TV ratings were pretty good. It picks up in the second half of 1994 when they acquire the services of Hogan and then pick up Savage at the end of the year. 1995 they do solid business mostly off Hogan. The next 2 and 1/2 years are stellar. Then, the rollercoaster starts slowly clicking down in the 2nd half of 1998. Then, it's an outright free fall by the middle of 1999.
But yeah, IMO, if you tell them they're going out of business in November 1996, they probably wouldn't believe you. However, if you provide some level of context, they probably would.
And to be fair, WWF's hot run during the Attitude era was roughly the same as WCW in terms of length. Like how long do you expect businesses to stay red hot realistically? I think it's easier now when you have the comfort of people paying to put you on TV and you're able to explore different routes to bring in revenue and potentially turn a profit. However, at the same time, TV is structured in a way now where an average wrestling show isn't going to be averaging 5 or 6 million viewers weekly. You're not going to be galvanize people at a level you did before. Weekly live TV is no longer a novelty. Having an overrun is no longer a novelty. You have to take the good with the bad.
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3 hours ago, clintthecrippler said:
Before or after you tell people that the now red-hot WCW will be out of business less than five years later?
Shit, it's believable. Look at World Class, Mid South, and Jim Crockett. Probably one or two I'm leaving out. All had banner years and out of business, sold, or downhill shortly afterwards. Tough business pre TV rights and other consistent revenue streams.
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5 hours ago, odessasteps said:
Would Osprey even really improve WWE from a business POV? Would his signing boost their UK business when they already have Drew and the rest (throw in Becky and Sheamus if you want to include the ROI).
but he might sell PPV for TK and increase ratings (which we don’t talk about anymore).
makes more sense for him too, schedule and money wise, on paper.I think the way WWE is now, they don't need really name brand guys. When they signed guys like AJ and Nakamura, it was purely for "fantasy" workrate matchups. Same with the former Walter. Would WWE be in the same position as they are now if they never signed those guys? Pretty much. I think Paul wants to cater to critical and commercial appeal. It's the Oscar and Golden Globe appeal but I want do the business of the Marvel universe back when every movie was a smash hit at the BO or something akin to a movie doing a billion worldwide. We have to have someone break the star ratings but also we can do amazing TV ratings week in and week out. He wants to cover the market understandably.
Thing is you won't be able to sign everyone especially when there is only but so much TV time and title belts to go around. Everyone cannot have primo spots. There are guys like Punk and Cody who will pretty much have a top spot anywhere. The Miros and Andrades and Malakai Blacks of the world...are you guaranteed anything? Maybe third from the bottom match on a WWE PLE or AEW PPV if you're wrestling at all.
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10 hours ago, username said:
This sounded suspect to me so I did an experiment and picked a random WWE and AEW wrestler who seem to be fairly active in each company (Dom Mysterio and Orange Cassidy) and checked how many matches they have worked since the start of 2023. Dom worked 135, Orange worked 86. Given that Orange worked basically every single AEW house show, the Jericho cruise and a few indy dates to get to said number that's probably close to the AEW upper limit, so while it isn't nothing it is still less than 2/3 of the alternative.
Granted this is very unscientific but a busy WWE wrestler seems to clearly be working more than a busy AEW one, and I see no reason Ospreay wouldn't be busy unless he negotiated very well.EDIT: Also unless I am confusing this with someone else Rollins apologized to Will years ago re: the twitter stuff and they've been complimentary towards each other in the years since.
Yeah, you carefully select one wrestler anything sounds suspect. Shit, Dom has 29 matches this year. He is clearly the high number. He is probably above and beyond any wrestler anywhere. Everyone else checking several people has between 10 to 20 ish.
Nakamura hasn't had more than 72 matches since before the pandemic. Damian Priest had 100 matches last year but also hasn't wrestled more than 84 or even close to that in several years beyond that. Sami Zayn had 94 last year but 78 and 55 prior to that. Gunther had 96 and then 83. Obviously while signed to NXT UK, he wrestled once a month if you average it out. Was Gunther in semi retirement? Cody wrestled 100+ last year but look at the amount of matches in his prior WWE run. He was doing between 160 to 190 matches a year. 119 was his low in a healthy year. That would be close to the top number for a WWE guy or girl nowadays.
And that's essentially my point. We are not talking the old WWF/WWE schedule. In addition, going back to one of my points pages back, why are you trying to make a Will Ospreay wrestle that much anyway? A Dom or an Austin Theory should be getting valuable ring time.
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30 minutes ago, Octopus said:
So what you’re saying is you like Triple H?
Like might be too strong a word. Way too strong. However, I do respect him enough to believe he is smart enough not to be totally insulated in the wrestling bubble. That and if he plans to be the next wrestling czar winning hearts and minds and probably from a PR standpoint be the anti-Vince McMahon, he doesn't have to say shit like this. I feel like he's trying to navigate both trying to respect and honor Vince but also tow the "Vince is no longer associated with WWE" line. He's not going to win that war. He would do better trying to establish his own legacy totally separate from Vince. He doesn't need to check his "What Would Vince Do" bracelet every 10 minutes.
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I will leave it at this since Paul's response is strange anyway you slice it: My whole belief is Paul is just pissed he lost out on these two guys who he thought it would be obvious they would be swayed to sign with WWE. They have all the perceived momentum, and they were able to bring a bunch of people into the fold since Vince left, came back, and then left again. He felt he needed to come up with an excuse to why he lost out on two major free agents to a lower tier company. IMO it's like a fanbase of a sports franchise who reads the rumor mill all offseason they're going to land some big name free agent, negotiations break off, and then another team signs them away out of nowhere. Then that same fanbase that was excited about these game changing players all of a sudden didn't want those guys in the first place.
I would have been really impressed if Paul just said, "Sucks we didn't get them. Hope that works out for them, but we feel would have been the better landing spot and provide better opportunities. We feel our roster is still stacked with or without them. Best of luck." No shade necessary and you can still big up WWE.
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Just now, Godfrey said:
He may not make those up. I did more searching and I forgot he billed his last RevPro match as his goodbye to the indies and so far he hasn't signed up for New Japan again (although that could change) so his schedule might only be one match a week at the most and more likely one every two weeks or so. That's pretty different from 3 dates a week minimum. So I may have misrepresented how similar the schedules were in my previous post, that's on me
To answer your question, I think from Triple H's view Ospreay did go into semi-retirement
...except he didn't. I get you're not saying that, but again, that's pretty bizarre especially when WWE doesn't structure their contracts AFAIK where you have to hit a specific threshold of matches. I am guessing there are obviously injury clauses in there. If he were with WWE, he probably working a similar schedule of doing an interview one week on TV and wrestling the next week rinse repeat. When you only have five or six matches per TV show, how many people are wrestling EVERY week? So if you're not wrestling on TV every week, that leaves the two house shows. For majority of the year, it's the supershows which include both brands. How many people are working those? 15-20 people? It can't be that many.
That hardest week of the year is the last week of the year and that's after an entire week off. You might have to wrestle a whole four times. Sounds like backbreaking work.
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1 hour ago, Dolfan in NYC said:
Your female and gay male friends are gonna need about... 5-10 minutes alone:
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
BE RIGHT BACK.
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4 minutes ago, JLowe said:
It’s like people forget Vince spent weeks on the Billionaire Ted skits, and that it was USA Networks who told him to knock it off.
That reminds me...I brought up how he spent almost 10 whole minutes on WWF Superstars defending himself from a Phil Mushnick hit piece when the trial had been over for almost a year and a half. Yep, I saw a response of, "well...I mean he HAD TO defend himself..."
Yes, he had to break kayfabe and take time away from his own programming to talk about something 95% of his audience didn't give a fuck about.
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The man did exhume his parents after all. You can't expect much from him.
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According to Kevin Iole, boxing promoter (Gary Shaw Productions and prior to as a member of Main Events), MMA promoter (EliteXC), and former New Jersey state athletic commission member Gary Shaw has passed away. RIP.
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9 minutes ago, Godfrey said:
To correct my earlier post, WWE's upcoming European tour does seem to have more dates a week to take advantage of being over there so there are still going to be periods when they have to grind it out a little. I just listened to his rebuttal promo and I think it's more that Ospreay doesn't want to water down his work to do it more often, it's a different approach to wrestling entirely from WWE and if he went there right now they would be like oil and water
I think each brand does about two international "tours" of 3 days each. That's 6-8 days out of 365 days. Will Ospreay isn't going to make that up by doing shots in RevPro or wherever? Did I miss something? Did he go into semi retirement?
Shit, they use to do 2-3 weeks of tours overseas. However, because of TV commitments, they have to come back. Now, they shooting the TV before the PLE in that same venue. So I mean, they're reducing travel.
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I was going to go with The Bikeriders, but I played it safe.