Beech27
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Jay White is doing a Warrior Wreslting show in Chicago, on Saturday. So.
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11 hours ago, Jiji said:
I know you gotta go with that song but I would really dig 44 year old Punk coming out to bitch ass AFI (I love that song!).
The ironic contrast of lyrics stating that he's no one from nowhere, while the crowd melts down over him, and then "from Chiiiiiiiiiicago, Illinois" would be hilarious, if nothing else.
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3 hours ago, Shartnado said:
This is most likely true, but wouldn't Christian vs White for the title still help to recoup some of that potential money? This may have been a take it or leave it kind of a situation for them, too. But yeah, I'm guessing Kenny vs White was a big NJPW dream match that they never had the chance to deliver on a big stage (if at all?)
They had an IWGP US title match about 3.5 years ago, which did — or at least tried to do — some interesting things with Omega’s arrogance and White’s lack of big-match experience. (It’s basically his Rainmaker Shock.) But the match structure would be different — and ultimately more satisfying for a longer main event — now, and it wouldn’t be overshadowed by other angles to the same extent, were it to happen.
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Initially, it was the AXS TV/Mark Cuban connection, but I don't know what it would be now.
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It probably is Tanahashi, but
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There's something extra depressing about seeing Mutoh, who basically resisted decades of the genre zeitgeist swinging towards being stiffer, or head-droppier, or somehow more genuinely violent, taking a hard-way headbutt at goddamn 60 years old.
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"Now they're like babies--they're cryin' over spilled milk. But the milk--it's all gonna be put back together, brother."
What a line.
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While we're sorta on the subject: However good they are, punches should mostly be saved for heel cheating/face retribution high spots, or concession stand brawl type matches. That is, wrestling is better with an acknowledged closed-fist rule, and the exceptions should mean something.
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21 hours ago, AxB said:
Steroids and Coke (and depression) killed those WWF/ WCW guys though, not bumping. It's not an apples to apples comparison.
It's not, but the point is you have to consider every aspect of the working environment, not just the in-ring style. All Japan's big main events were brutal, but those matches were incredibly infrequent. Misawa and Kawada weren't expected to work an 80% effort singles match 4-5 nights a week on the house show circuit. Mostly, you were doing pretty tame six-man tags, without as extensive/grueling travel--and that travel, hotels, food, etc., was nearly all covered by the company or sponsors--and with real breaks in between tours. Which is not to say the stiffness and head-drops were somehow healthy, or that the style didn't venture into excess, or that steroids and alcohol were never problems. The real problem, though, was thinking you could work something approaching that main event style nearly every night of an American schedule. (Or to flip it around: the problem was when fans started expecting that.)
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Maybe the fact that a major company is still willing to put its top title on him is answer enough, but, regarding Mutoh: Is this a "still wants to work" situation, or a "still has to work" one? Do we know?
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Gotta admit, Mutoh being world champ again right after SANADA fails to ascend again is kinda funny. (Not that the GHC and IWGP are on the same level right now, but still.)
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I love that, in Japan, adding a wrist-clutch elevates any finisher. Really, I love the idea of big-match super-finishers in general.
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That match has been a strange sort of mile-marker in my wrestling fandom. I saw it when I was first getting into Japanese wrestling, and loved it. As I read more and got 'smarter', I learned that it was actually an empty spectacle, just two dudes welting each other. But then as I watched more and developed my own tastes, I discerned it was a spectacle full of the meaning the crowd gave it, and that two dudes welting each other is a great story. Or at least, it was then. If strike exchanges and fighting spirit chops have become a meme, I'm not inclined to blame Kobashi and Sasaki.
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Yeah, "if he hits lefties" is doing a lot of work, there. His career slash against them is .191 / .266 / .310
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I would like to hear an explanation for why that wouldn't be as crazy it definitely does seem.
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Mahomes a participant in practice today. (CEH and Watkins, too.) Still in the protocol, and the injury report lists a toe as well.
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The hot new exploitable market inefficiency: trying to have a good team.
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Why do you hit 'return' so many times before signing your posts?
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My nit-picky gripe regarding match structure in this is era is that, if we're to believe audible fan support really helps wrestlers power up, harness fighting spirit, etc., then a lack of it should manifest somehow. And yeah, steering away from big epics would be a great way to do that.
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Washington probably needs Brady to throw a couple panic-picks, and maybe get strip-sacked, leading to easy scores. I think Smith is good enough if the field position and game flow tilt in his favor. Unlikely, ultimately. But it’s still a worse matchup for TB than the Giants, I think.
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Washington has one of the best pass-rush win-rates in the league, while Tampa is mid-pack in pass-protection, with a quarterback who really doesn't like being pressured. They're rightly an underdog, but that's one path to a competitive game.
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My baseless prediction: Ibushi retains against White, is challenged for the Heavy only by an Okada who has found his main event form again; Okada wins, Ibushi gets a long run with the IC, and the belts are split again.
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4 hours ago, D.Z said:
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This is the sleaziest looking promo image I've seen in a long time. Tremendous.
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Ibushi is my dude, so I'm just happy to see him win, and I'm always going to be into Kenny morosely vague (but not that vague) tweeting about him. I'm going to hope they fight, even though I know better.
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August 2021 Wrestling Discussion
in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
Posted · Edited by Beech27
You're probably right -- and hell, maybe Roman still holds a grudge over not being in Punk's original hand-picked Shield lineup, and the "make Roman look tough" quip -- but I think the question is less "is what he said true?" than "is what he said useful?/what does it accomplish?" Because if he's heeling, then he's babyfacing another guy for another company; and if he's just stating a truth for it's own sake, then it's a pretty soft criticism (everyone knows Punk is a big enough star that WWE would have happily paid him millions for a comeback), and invites the question of whether Roman himself is a bigger deal than The Rock or Cena (and he's not).