Robert
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I am very curious to see if this season comes off as Lucha Underground Season 4 or Lucha Underground presents TNA Impact w/ guest spots featuring Lucha Underground workers. There is like... no buzz. First show will be vital to get people interested but even then I feel like they're fighting to just win back their regular viewers (like me) who were such a small # as it was.
It's hard to see what the goal of this group is other than give paydays to friends of those in charge. I'm less interested in what happens on the show this year as much as seeing if they make ANY attempt to expand.
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Soberano Jr. vs Magia Blanca was surprisingly quite good on yesterday afternoon's show.
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Micro Man's performance tonight in the micros torneo at Arena Mexico was amazing. Dude is a legit superstar and probably the most over tecnico in Mexico these days.
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Ledesma uses the term working agreement very loosely so we'll see what comes of it besides Quack doing a match at some point. He's claimed working agreements with New Japan when Yoshitatsu worked one show against his will & even WWE when Regal/Sarah showed up to watch a show while in Mexico on other business. But does he really having working agreements with them? Obviously not.
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Amazing 5 way match from MexaWrestling last weekend - Aramis vs Latigo vs Toxin vs Septimo Dragon vs Moria:
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9 hours ago, Oyaji said:
Jesus Christ, Meltzer says the BOLA 2016 six man tag was better than the main event. His moves lust is OP.
Refer to this post on Wednesday.
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One of the rumors that is more fact than rumor even though nobody will come right out and say it is Dorian gave an ultimatum that any wrestler who left AAA and still wanted to work Lucha Underground would only be allowed if they returned to AAA. Fenix/Penta types were considered untouchable since they don't really need LU any more in the first place, let alone AAA at all. But a guy like Daga needs the U.S. exposure and thus really wanted to be on LU Season 4. He's there. Taking part in one of the main stories they are taping over this season. Yet he hasn't returned to AAA yet & is telling everyone he has no intention of doing so. Makes you wonder how much influence Dorian really has when it comes to certain decisions.
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Great job by Vampiro explaining the Wagner feud and how the Clowns got involved.
It was an explanation of an imaginary story. Just shows how even the guy in charge has no idea what is going on.
It's cool you liked the show but I don't think it was as great as you are trying to portray. It was the usual AAA mess.
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The spoilers look dreadful but I can't muster up the energy to really complain until this all airs in 6 months or whenever it is. Definitely strikes me as a 'get your friends that El Rey dinero before it disappears' type season.
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The entire LU midset is something I'll never get. I know for a fact they had the chance to be part of WM weekend 2 years in a row and could have easily sold a show with how much buzz they had but they were in, then out, then in and finally out with the excuse they had a tour planned and wanted to wait to do that. That tour never happened obviously. Either time.
It always came off to me that the people with the final say looked at how much money a live show could make and if it was 5 figures they just scoffed at it not being worth it because these are guys who deal with multi-million dollar productions on a regular basis. Meanwhile even just one 5 figure payoff could have helped the company even just by paying the small costs that add up.
The people most excited for LU's return is probably Arolucha because they are the touring group who wants to try to make money off shows while LU gives their guys free TV time.
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It's a weird deal. I want to be excited for them actually coming back and I'm sure I will eventually be excited whenever these shows make it onto TV but from a realistic standpoint... new location, probably no Dario, lots of talent turnover, lower budget so probably very different looking show... I dunno... makes you wonder why they are even bothering? The hype for LU is lagely non-existent these days outside of a group of fans smaller than the Impact fanbase. It just comes off as something that should be put to bed but they aren't going to let it. And the entire purpose here seems to be film a television show that has proven not to be something that gets a huge audience, meanwhile they have zero merchandise possibilites going forward and refuse to admit they are a wrestling company so they won't set up any tours. I just keep going back to the question 'what's the point?'
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CRASH started their NOLA announcements a bit late but at least they made a big one... Fenix vs Flamita first time on U.S. soil for their Friday noon show! That's gonna be one of the best matches that weekend for sure. Flamita doesn't make it to the U.S. often outside of PWG so this will be a great chance for people to see him against his best opponent. You know where I'll be!
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Titan vs Mephisto from CMLL tonight was an excellent match. Well worth checking out.
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48 minutes ago, Casey said:
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that main event and anyone that thinks different is a soulless person. That was just fucking fun.
"Hi, I have a dumb opinion that would fall apart in a second when challenged so I'm not allowing anyone to do that."
This is a prototypical WWE fan.
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I haven't seen the match but I'm presuming the blood from Marco was hardway because he posted an instagram photo with a cut near his eye stitched up and it would seem awfully risky to blade yourself near the eye.
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If this really is the end it will be interesting to read some post-LU interviews where people can speak more freely. I can understand the writers/producers defending the storyline around Sexy Star... the conquering female and all that... BUT if not a single person comes forward and admits casting her in that role was a mistake I'm gonna be very disappointed in the lack of honesty.
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I agree completely on everything re: Penta. I'm not a writer so I have no knowledge of how it works or anything but to me it seemed like they couldn't capitalize at first b/c they taped so far in advance, then they kept coming up with ideas to delay and delay and delay Penta's rise to the top because the chase is cool and all. But the chase is not cool when you have to wait so long between seasons & he's resorting to going back to doing feuds with people he's already run through. This entire universe should be built around him.
I don't know either writer personally... DJ has always been cool to me & helped me get tickets for a taping once so I've obviously got nothing personal against him. Just sometimes I feel like the writers on the show think they are the most important people and the actual wrestlers are just playing roles to get the stories over. Like the Sexy Star thing was never working at all but they were hell bent for some reason on doing a woman conquers all story and were going to ride that to the end no matter what even though it was obvious it wasnt working. Or the Famous B/Brenda comedy stuff that seems to get way more play than other acts on the show because clearly the writers love that act. Like why are we wasting time on silly skits with those two?
I'm looking forward to next week but at the same time also not looking forward to it. Mixed emotions I guess. I am curious whether they filmed multiple scenes as possiblities to end the season where if they knew for sure they were coming back they have something planned and if they think they may not come back they have a scene where the entire LU universe blows up or something. I read spoilers so I know the match results but it's the story stuff I'm super intrigued to see play out since nobody would have known what they have planned with all that. I think Cubs & I are at an impasse re: the "lord" in the limo. I think it's building up to be an actual wrestler, Cubs thinks it'll just be another celebrity cameo.
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Not completely sure of the accuracy of the report but Observer goes into a bit of detail on the impass over a fourth season and seperates the internal opposing sides. One side is said to have EVW (cool), Dorian Roldan (ew) & Vamp (fuck off). So I'm torn on supporting that side if true.
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I subbed to Konnan's patreon this month just to see last week's CRASH show since the usual video guys didn't attend & only clipped versions are coming out (unless it airs on TV eventually?). Totally worth the sub just to see Fenix vs Flamita. They had a great match a few weeks earlier in San Luis Potosi & just one-upped it here. Materful stuff, easy pick for my MOTY in Mexico so far.
It's crazy they don't hype it more that the patreon has unedted CRASH footage because up until recently I was just under the impression they were linking to versions other people filmed on YouTube. But they have their own hard cam setup which is a much better view than the guy sitting second row usually shooting over someone's head or unable to follow action when it leaves the ring.
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I thought it was gonna get the entire episode but now I see they added Texano vs Famous B. Hopefully it runs short. I am expecting madness from Fox/Killshot.
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It's easy to criticize from afar but I'm sure it was a super fun event to attend live. I've never been let down by an Arena Mexico Friday (I know it's not Friday but still) show. It's just such a great live experience, every fan should do it once.
I thought main event was great considering crowd came to boo the shit out of them and those guys worked so hard they ended up getting the crowd really invested in the outcome. The exact opposite of how the feud felt in the build-up! Easily my favorite match of the show.
Hechicero was just unreal in that opener. He was working as if he was pissed he got relegated to opening match (remember he was semi-main last year...) and was out there to show he was the best wrestler on this show.
Others like Sugeith/Zeuxis more than myself. I just couldn't get past the Tirantes nonsense.
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I feel like both Anniversary losers are gonna end up MIA sooner than rather later. Niebla Roja probably leaving Mexico for a bit (if not forever) & Sugeith maybe cashing in her mask and taking a year off to have a kid. Pretty sure on the former, just a suspicion on the latter.
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The micros match from CMLL last night was excellent. Just great pro wrestling. Chamuel is a very nice addition to the crew & Micro Man just keeps cementing his Rookie of the Year status. Hopefully they find a 3rd lil' dude to join up with the tecnicos so we can get some trios action going!
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Last night's episode didn't do anything for me. Boy the people running this thing REALLY like their wacky gimmick matches and comedy gimmicks. Not sure why the Rabbit Tribe needed to get so much shit in on Matanza instead of just getting murdered. The match with the cops was just building to the funny spots instead of being any sort of blood feud. Drago/Mack was fine but super short.
At least next week looks loaded. Hoping we can get at least one of the matches without a run-in.
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It was rough. For the first half of the match if you told me I accidentally put on an episdoe of Impact at it's worst, I'd have believed it. Fenix saved things & the final 4 was decent but this was just a lot of bad. Really didn't feel like Lucha Underground as much as what's left of what was once Lucha Underground.
The Dario/Antonio stuff just seems like it's insulting to me as a viewer. I'd rather they have just done the bit where Dario being shot was a dream or he was wearing a protective vest.