Babylonianfrost
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For what it's worth, flippiing through the prelude I noticed Rocket apparently had/has a love interest of some sort. I'd be up for seeing somebody play her for the second movie. Unless of course she died and I don't know that.
TMK, Lylla is alive or at least she was never confirmed to be killed off in Rocket's run with the Guardians. I am not sure if she appears in Skottie Young's ongoing Rocket Raccoon series.
In the Rocket Raccoon/Groot backups in the Annihilators: Earthfall series, it was shown that [if I understood it correctly] the events of the Rocket Raccoon series (and maybe Hulk # 271?) were at least partially mind-implants to cause Rocket to leave Half-World due to a convoluted plan to keep the Star-Thief from the old Starlin "Warlock" series under lock and key in a prison/asylum. Lylla was dating Blackjack the last time I checked. It's been a while since I read through it.
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He'd been the Iron Sheik for a few years at that point in GCW, etc., so that was the name he was best known as and - unless Dick Graham or Gorilla Monsoon or Kal Rudman wandered off-book during commentary at one of those televised house shows at MSG or the Spectrum - I don't believe they referred to him by any other name until they turned him Iraqi later.Given that the Iron Sheik was the first guy to win a major title with a gimmicked stage name, was he ever billed as anything else around that time? i.e "The Iron Sheik" Hossein Arab?
As for world titles, the NWA was strict under Muchnick about keeping real/"realistic" named guys with the strap, but Mil Mascaras did hold the IWA "world title" (and may still defend the damn thing) and the AWA was never shy in the early days about putting world titles on guys named "Da Crusher" and "Mr. M" if I recall.
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I've been saying the same thing as Super Ape for almost 2 years. The work is generally good, but I mentioned sometime back, that WWE doesn't work in a vacuum. Someone will put over a match that everyone went crazy about, I'll watch it and say "that was fine", because I have no attachment to anyone on the roster, or the stories going in.
That's generally how I find myself feeling about '90's All-Japan (and the later ROH that everyone loved) and I lived through watching that back when it was current. I recognize a lot of it as excellent matches, but I just don't care in a sense. I'm curious (and not in a sarcastic way): does ANY wrestling match work only in a vacuum? Some random lucha? NJPW juniors from the '90's? Bizarre WAR six-mans? Battlarts? Lebell's Monster? I mean, there has to be SOME connection for it to work, even beyond the greatest match ever between Wrestler A and Wrestler B, doesn't there? If someone loves Flair/Steamboat, it's because they know Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat and feel some sort of association with them, isn't it?
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Bravo was pure face in Crockett, Montreal and the AWA; wasn't he still a brown-haired face (and opposed to a bleached-blonde heel) during his opening time in the WWF?
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I said Iron Mike Sharpe earlier and I stand beside that.
Depending on how far back you want to go, Sharpe wrestled at least for a bit as a face in Mid-South when he held the Louisiana title. I've seen him in matches against DiBiase and Duggan in ... 1982, I think?
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Wasn't Killer Khan in WWF, Mid-South, Texas and at least one of the Japan sets? Flair was in Memphis, Texas, All-Japan and Mid-South and the AWA as well.
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Christ, Big Fish came out fairly soon after my father passed away, and that movie took great pleasure in absolutely destroying me in the theater. It's a great movie, but I haven't seen it since.
I had a sense during The Muppets that the waterworks may or may not have been imminent, but I thought I had escaped intact until "Rainbow Connection"; after that, it was just me biting my lip and sniffling into my oversized soft drink & trying to hold it together while I tried to figure out how to blame it on allergies.
The one I'm embarassed about though is the damned "Notebook." My girlfriend rented that in 2006 (?) and watched it while I was in the room not particularly paying attention to it (likely busy wandering on one of the former variants of this board being enthralled at the chaos in the current event thread or something, actually) but kind of watching it out of the corner of my eye, not really caring. In fact, I was getting more and more irritated at it...then THAT DAMN SCENE happened.
From there out, tears streamed down my face for the rest of the movie while I hated myself for letting them do that to me.
Dear Zachary...dear god, that was a gut punch but I think I was more numb than anything else.
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"Watching wrestling helps cure cancer" - Tommy Dreamer
But...we were always told that wrestling Jerry Lawler GAVE Andy Kaufman cancer...
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I'll chime in and note that seeing "Young Ones" broadcasts back-to-back with "Monty Python" in my youth likely had more effect on my sense of humor than I'd like to admit. A sad loss.
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Any number of matches from the Omni in the early '80's: Backlund/Flair, Flair/Hansen, Ole & Stan/Funk & Rhodes, the Last Battle of Atlanta....
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I am up to the 93 Rumble match at that PPV, and the opening entrants are Flair and Backlund who have a really fun exchange.
I YouTubed to see if they ever had a solid wrestling encounter somewhere, and I could find nothing that currently existed.
Does anyone know of anything between the two? I have a feeling not because I do not think Backlund worked many NWA territories and obviously took a lengthy break early into his career before returning.
They worked title v. title at the Omni in '82. You can find the promos leading to the match, but sadly no footage.
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When the whole film is based around stopping someone shooting someone else, and in the first half of the movie, you show someone being quick enough to stop bullets with ease.......why would you leave that guy at home?
I've seen that [valid] point brought up and - to my mind anyway - there's a certain logic that Xavier, Wolverine, et al viewed him purely as a teenage thrillseeker (I'm not entirely certain how old he was supposed to be...) and perhaps a bit of a wild card in a situation that was that high stakes.
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Speaking of which any opinions on Atlantis Rising? I noticed the trade at my library and wondered if its worth checking out.
I had a nostalgic response extolling the virtues of "Atlantis Attacks" (even that goofy "What If" issue with Set gobbling heroes whole) before rereading the question. "Atlantis Rising"...that's a bit different. It was the epitome of mid-'90's Marvel, which is to say not as bad as, say, Avengers or X-Force or the Spider-Clone stuff but not as good as...whatever Marvel was doing well at that point. It was pleasantly generic.
It's amazing how good late-'90's Marvel was comparatively, post-Reborn. I miss Busiek.
Oh, and the Lee-Kirby FF stuff has been at least partially-covered in two omnibuses that cover the first (I think) sixty issues.
As for the list...eh, I liked half of it, I guess. Secret Wars was okay, but it was a shallow popcorn movie equivalent in 1984, much less now. Civil War was...Civil War. Age of Apocalypse was roughly when I stopped particularly caring about the X-men franchise; it wasn't bad, but it just didn't hook me. "Days of Future Past" is painfully overrated, but I understand its placement given the movie.
If I had my way...well, Marvel would lose a lot of money on this given my choices, but I would toss on:
Defenders # 47-50 ("Who Remembers Scorpio?"...it had a deeply philosophical bent regarding aging out of relevance, great early Giffen art, Moon Knight and the Hulk on a picnic...one of my favorite continued stories.)
Marvel Team-Up # 119 (possibly the first comic to make me tear up as it dealt in a mature way [well, it was a comic co-starring Gargoyle and Spider-Man...] with how losing someone can affect you but also how important it is to die with simple dignity...actually all of Dematteis' Marvel Team-Up issues are very underrated, but I'll stick to one.)
Wolverine LS # 1-4 (it covers the need for Wolverine, for something that's inspired a movie, and for something that was an excellent story.)
Fantastic Four # 25-26 (The biggest Marvel crossover done to that point with the FF & the Avengers against the Hulk...this was how to do a popcorn movie story.)
Avengers, Vol. 2 # 1-3 (Busiek and Perez handle the ramifications of the Heroes Return quickly & efficiently while handling a cast of dozens and - more to the point - making sure each character has his/her own voice & look without pissing away prior continuity. It was the antithesis of the three or four years prior.)
Conspiracy # 1-2 (I have no idea if this was an "Elsewords"-type tale or if it was meant to be in continuity or what, but the dark, secretive handling of the origins of the Marvel Universe through government conspiracies was truly great.)
Nextwave: Agents of Hate (Really? Anyone has to ask? Hell, I'd have this included for the "Mark Millar licks goats" Not-a-Civil-War-crossover cover alone, but it was a truly mean-spirited funny series and I still throw around the "...fleshy pink god?" comment to this day.)
Avengers Vol. 1 #227-230 (I know that all that 80% of the writers remember Hank Pym for is that he hit the Wasp once, but this was how you redeem a hero and, more importantly, a man in a comic book setting. Having him at his lowest only to come back, beat the Masters of Evil singlehandedly and triumph over everything was exhilirating as hell.)
Silver Surfer # 1-10 (Englehart & Rogers concocted the best example of widescreen cosmic that Marvel had ever done prior to Annihilation. Galactus vs. the Elders of the Universe, random Celestial appearances, Eternity, the first appearance of Mantis since she left to be the Celestial Madonna [barring that odd Justice League of America issue...] another potential Kree-Skrull War...just great stuff.)
Some Sternako Nick Fury story (...eh, pick one from Strange Tales or his own book. I like the Yellow Claw reappearance, but they're all of pretty much equal quality and I assume most would pick the Scorpio issue.)
Hulk # 377 (The best handling of the Hulk that I've seen in a story that does a great job of summing up what has made the Hulk the Hulk for so long. I would also accept the first full appearance of Rocket Racoon from Hulk # 271...)
Amazing Spider-Man # 31-33 (The aforementioned Master Planner saga. Great classic stuff)
Howard the Duck # 22-23 (Steve Gerber works through some apparent issues with "Star Wars"
and reunites the Howard with the cast of Man-Thing for a fun homage.)Lord knows there's more stuff to add, but...this would work for me with a few of the already-voted stories.
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Oh, and the "Welcome Back, Frank" storyline from Ennis & Dillon's 2000 Punisher LS.
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I'm saddened that you couldn't get "Bad to the Bone" to play while the Bullet does his dance.
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Flair always seemed to be given a pass in the timeframe. Wasn't he essentially one of the only two people (Goldberg being the other, I think) that consistently moved ratings when he was on-camera, back when that meant more than it does now? In honesty, the only times I really heard anyone being negative about Flair in '98 was the never-ending Shane Douglas whining and one interview with DX-era Helmsley when he said he thought Flair was "too old" to make it in the fed. Beyond that, guys like Ross, etc. were always positive & respectful and the crowds never gave him any particular hassle (especially with that "wooo" every time someone laid in a chop becoming noticeable during that era).
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Well hell, you've got Moondog Rex in the main against Hogan, that doesn't exactly jump out to me as a money-grabbing main event.
Conceded, but I oddly really want to see Mascaras/Samu and Santana-Snuka/North-South.
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I looked around to try and find numbers for WWF shows in Memphis in 1985, but I couldn't find anything. I know that a few of you are privy to these numbers. In short, is this statement true? If it is, that is pretty amazing. I wonder if there were other territorial holdouts too. For example, did WWF and Hogan draw well in Minneapolis, Portland, Charlotte, Atlanta, etc.?
There's an amazing thread about this over at PWO called "Vince McMahon vs. the World" that goes into an unbelievable amount of detail about the expansion/invasions, but as far as Memphis...I think this was Vince's first incursion (courtesy of KrisZ):
WWF @ Memphis, TN - Convention Center - June 24, 1984 (950)SD Jones defeated Lanny Kean
Jesse Ventura defeated Billy Travis
Big John Studd won an 18-man battle royal by last eliminating Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant
Big John Studd defeated Joey Rossi
Mil Mascaras defeated Samula
WWF IC Champion Tito Santana & Jimmy Snuka defeated WWF Tag Team Champions The North-South Connection via disqualification
WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan defeated Moondog Rex
WWF @ Louisville, KY - Convention Center - June 25, 1984 (2,500)
Paul Orndorff defeated Billy Travis
Mil Mascaras defeated Jerry Valiant
Big John Studd won an 18-man battle royal by last eliminating Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant
Big John Studd defeated Lanny Kean
WWF IC Champion Tito Santana defeated Joey Rossi
SD Jones defeated Moondog Spot
Jimmy Snuka defeated Samula
WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan pinned Moondog Rex
That same night Jarrett ran this show the day after Vince invaded Memphis and notice the crowd size
CWA @ Memphis, TN – Mid-South Coliseum – June 25, 1984 (11,000)
Porkchop Cash & Scott McGhee d. The Scorpions
Mark Batten, Dutch Mantell, & Johnny Wilhoit d. Masao Ito, The Nightmare, & Keith Roberson
The Animal d. Rick McCord
Jim Neidhart d. Stan Frazier
The Rock n Roll Express d. Lanny Poffo & Randy Savage by DQ
Southern Heavyweight Title: Jimmy Valiant d. Rick Rude © by DQ
The Fabulous Ones d. The Pretty Young Things
Tennessee Street Fight: Eddie Gilbert & Tommy Rich d. Phil Hickerson & The Spoiler
National Tag Titles: Austin Idol & Jerry Lawler d. The Road Warriors © by DQ
Memphis wasn't amenable to the WWF brand, nor was Texas or a couple of other places, IIRC.
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Godfuckingdamn it. I was fortunate enough to first see them in a rat's hole in Knoxville in 1989 (I recall it being prior to "Scumdogs...") and then again a few times here and there over the passing years, and always managed to come away from the shows with a great time & stories to share. I know that to a lot of people out there in the mainstream, GWAR was some kind of lowest-common denominator shit-and-baby-rape joke but they were always funnier and a hell of a lot smarter than that. And damn it, they wrote some great songs in the old-school (forgive me here, but I always heard it) Dictators/Twisted Sister mode amongst the catchy thrash. Hanneman earlier and now Oderus. It's stupid to say that another big piece of my musical younger years is gone, but - and forgive the maudlin crap - it really is. Best to his friends and his family. Brockie was a consummate frontman. RIP
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Whatever happened to Rick Scacia/OnlineOnslaught and Mike Samuda/MiCasa? I remember that along with CRZ, they seemed the saner/more amiable members of the Wrestlemaniacs crew and I recall that I always enjoyed their stuff (admittedly now thirteen or fourteen years removed).
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I'm probably the only one here reading the current Thunderbolts series, but I have to applaud Soule for throwing in a reference to the infamous supernatural Punisher mini in this week's issue. Got a chuckle out of me when I read it.
I laughed too, probably harder than I should have. Is this the first time that it's even been alluded to since Ennis took over the character fourteen or so years ago?
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Owen/Davey-Boy is a given here, but I'm kind of [pleasantly] surprised to see Bravo & Quake get support over Benoit & Beef. I wonder what the vote ratio would've been ten years ago.
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Christ, I had never known that Tom Burton had died.
(or, upon checking, that he had wrestled Takada...)
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Man... Louie & Candido vs. Hennig & Gilbert. Had to give that one some thought.
Yeah, this.
I admit that as much as I enjoyed the Trainer/Schlub gimmick of Skip and Radford, the Super Boys [were they ever actually called that or was that just something I randomly recall from the Apter mags/early '80's wrestling books?) are a team I wish I had seen more footage of.
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I'd still like an explanation why Korporate Kane has allied himself with THE MAN.
Unless it's a Wyatt thing, the explanation was ",You guys are really ruthless and evil. You've gained the power of Kane."
I like this; it makes Kane sound like some sort of achievable goal in a video game..."Your ruthless aggression grows! You have unlocked KANE".
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Spider-Man, X-Men, Wolverine, Fantastic Four and other non Marvel Studios films.
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The Sentry ripping him apart in space is the only time I ever actually liked the Sentry character.