Just Adam Bay Bay
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34 minutes ago, zendragon said:
I seem to recall Punk didn’t even want the belt 1st time around
The guy that according to reports refused to lose to Hangman didn’t want the belt? What the hell did he think the outcome was gonna be then? Either you job or you get the belt.
And he definitely wanted it the second time, because there’s no way his ego could take jobbing to Mox in Chicago. The stink he’s since raised over the match in Cincy proves he wouldn’t even think of losing in “his” town.
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2 minutes ago, StuntmanCrowley said:
with the heel heat Callis/Takeshita are already getting, adding them spoiling a Kingston title win......you might get close to people literally burning the building down. I'm in for it.
Especially if the run some place like Philadelphia the week after Eddie wins the belt. Those fans would eat Callis alive, and make for must see tv.
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41 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:
I've been having similar thoughts about Kingston as a Tommy Dreamer-like 'heart and soul' figure for a long time, so I actually really like this idea. Id argue it almost does more for his character than a month -long transitional/courtesy reign.
Edit: @octopus with another great comparison below too in Mick Foley
The question is, how do we get there? All Out is a couple weeks before Grand Slam, they usually do a Casino Battle Royale - who gets the chip and becomes the Justin Credible of the situation?
Edit: @zendragon I'm good with Hangman too, the only reason he didn't come to mind was because of how hard they're going with the Hung Bucks configuration right now - if they do, they've *got* to have a better road map for his reign. I was following the show more closely than ever at that time, and I honestly don't even remember much about it than the kick ass lights out matches with Archer and Cole - and that's not a knock on Hangman at all whatsoever
While I liked Justin Credible I would hope Tony has the good sense to choose someone better than that for the role. I’d say right now Takeshita would be a good choice as he’s a bastard heel and Callis could really sell him beating Eddie too. Looking at the other heels I wouldn’t be opposed to Claudio or Swerve getting that role either. Claudio for the built in history, and Swerve just because.
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48 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:
I know you're being sarcastic about Jericho, but in the spirit of transparency, I have to admit as a long-time fan of his: if he has one or two more cycles of the 'Tour with Fozzy for 6 months, come back refreshed, kill it' pattern left in him before he hangs it up full time, I'm completely down for The Nueve. I know that might be a bit of a polarizing opinion, since a lot of folks (like yourself) are growing tired of his schtick right now, but I've got a self-admitted nostalgia blind spot for the guy. I was legitimately happy for the guy with the unbelievable shape he got in after getting mercilessly hanged on by NBA Twitter a couple years back and having the embolism or clotting issue, whatever it was, over in Europe.
I'm also completely into another Mox reign, too, for one simple reason: if I had the book, we'd be hitting year one of his second reign at the end of the month
Actually I’m a bit of a Jericho mark. I just feel like right now he could badly use a Fozzy tour. As you stated he always comes back refreshed after they’re done, and it feels like he’s more energized as a performer after having had a break too. So if they gave him a break, and in 3-6 months decided hey let’s have him beat MJF I’d be cool with that.
I just threw Kenny’s name out as he felt like the guy fans would buy into the most, and that would get a good buy rate for whatever PPV they do it at (All In or Full Gear).
Year one of Mox’s second reign would be (imo) preferable to what we’ve ended up with. No interim title BS that way too.
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11 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:
You took the words out of my mouth, I was about to post something to the effect of: 'I wonder if Cody hadn't jumped to WWE, if we would just now be circling back to him vs. MJF'
IMO, now that MJF has won the four pillars match, you can't have a fellow hot prospect, or like a debuting guy beat him - it would shit all over Darby, Sammy, and JB too much. it's imperative that whoever beats him for that title be someone from the past coming back to haunt him - Cody would have been perfect for that (you of course have some removal of the 'no world title' stip in the build).
As things stand now, I think the two most logical choices to revisit would be either Wardlow or Punk - but Wardlow's cooled some and isn't there yet, and Punk I'm not sure I even want sniffing the title.
Well then I have just the guy for you. He loves getting into random feuds, and bringing guys that are hot down to a level below where they had been. I give to you, the Inaugural AEW World Champion, Le Champion Chris Jericho.
Actually on a more serious note I think they might circle back to Mox after the BCC/Elite feud ends. Personally I’d prefer they run Kenny vs MJF (and Kenny is someone I think 95% of the audience would get behind beating Max).
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The last men’s spot is either Riddle or Damian Priest as they’ve announced it for tomorrow nights Raw. Which seems like that whomever wins that is winning the contract (I get LA Knight is over, but there’s less than zero chance he’d cash in on Roman, and I can’t see fans cheering him against Seth).
As for the women I’d pick Zelina as the other four are in feuds or will soon be in feuds with each other.
I think they announced the unification match for Smackdown in two weeks, and I know they announced Asuka vs Charlotte for Smackdown the night before MITB (thus creating a three way the next night).
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To echo something @Casey said I’m a fan of Ric Flair, but I’m also a fan of Adam Cole and The Young Bucks.
I fully agree that just because something was considered acceptable in the 80’s doesn’t mean it should be four decades later. Times have changed, and I’m glad for that.
Also I didn’t call for anyone to be banned. I said certain opinions should be toned down when opposite arguments can be made. Claiming an NXT guy isn’t a draw while propping up three talents that were on Raw and Smackdown (Bryan, Keith Lee, and Samoa Joe) that have brought a collective zero new viewers to AEW is counterproductive at best.
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32 minutes ago, EVA said:
I’m certain I’m missing some big ones, but I’d go (in no particular order):
Omega vs. Mox
Punk vs. MJF
The Ballad of Hangman Page
Orange Cassidy’s Improbable Streak
MJF & Wardlow
I felt like an idiot for leaving off OC’s streak as that’s my current favorite angle.
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37 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:
All good dude! No worries even if so - I don't mind being challenged, I spout pleeeeeenty of questionable ideas/opinions here on a daily basis lol
I know for a fact I do too. But I don’t ever single a guy out for not bringing viewers when two other bigger name talents come from the same company and they don’t bring any extra eyes to the product either. Which I’ll apologize to my friend @The Natural as they know I love Bryan too, but as I pointed out he’s not brought many (or really any) of his fans from WWE to this company.
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1 hour ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:
Ironically enough, the reason why I chose the clip I did was to show how crazy the audiences for both shows go for him - who knows, it could be a case of the viewership overlapping moreso than 'following' him from one promotion to the other. In any case, all I'm trying to convey is: homeboy's definitely got his fans outside of our little world here. You can think he's the shits bell to bell all you want (your tastes are your tastes - no argument from me, you dig what you dig) but it's not like he's a Road Dogg kind of guy - if you take away the sing-along, there's still plenty of substance there IMO
Edit: Also, thank you to everyone who came through with WALTER recs - greatly appreciate you as always
I can’t believe he’s being that obtuse with his arguments. Why isn’t he asking why Samoa Joe didn’t bring the audience that was watching him on Raw to AEW with him? Or Bryan Danielson and the over two million people a week that watched him on Smackdown? His little hate boner for Adam Cole really should just go away or be shut down since it’s not discussing anything in good faith or adding anything to a conversation (especially when it can easily be shot down like I just did).
And to clear it up I don’t mean you Zakk clearly I mean the resident Adam Cole troll.
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59 minutes ago, Octopus said:
What are your all time top 5 AEW feuds/ story arcs of AEW?
Kenny vs Mox
Young Bucks vs Lucha Brothers
Danielson vs Hangman (I’m counting the current program as part of their feud)
Hangmans road to the title (I felt like throwing one story arc in)
Thunder Rosa vs Britt
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14 hours ago, just drew said:
I’ve never once said that. And again, I thought you had me on ignore. You should be the biggest MJF fan there is. He’s doing the impossible and making Adam Cole compelling…
I have your posts on ignore just like you supposedly have me on ignore yet you’ve tagged me a few times (I’ve seen people reply to your posts) with your anti Cole BS.
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3 hours ago, Dog said:
Oh great, now we'll have three months of arguing about why MJF/Cole was the highest rated segment.
Nah that’s only if @just drew shows up and starts explaining how MJF is a god, and we’re all blessed to hear his wonderful shoot bs promos.
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8 hours ago, southofheavy said:
Fucking LOST IT when Mark Jackson said "There used to be two announcers." God, that was awesome.
Now see I don’t mind because the one making that comment is my least favorite NBA commentator. It’s like you sucked as a coach, and you’re somehow more insufferable as a commentator. That shouldn’t be allowed.
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On 6/5/2023 at 1:28 PM, RandomAct said:
Lakers fans that have been trying to sell the idea of DLo for Kyrie are in hell right now.
Joking aside, the math makes Bron to Dallas almost impossible. Between he, Kyrie and Luka, they would take up literally the entire payroll.
Personally I’d rather have LeBron off the team than to have Kyrie join it. Especially after his millionth appearance as petulant child #1 after the Nuggets won Game 4. Like if you’re that big a baby just retire already.
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1 hour ago, The Natural said:
I'm the resident Christopher Nolan fanboy here but will say the last film of his I truly loved was The Dark Knight. I'd rank Nolan's films thusly:
1. The Dark Knight (2008).
2. Memento (2000).
3. Batman Begins (2005).
4. The Dark Knight Rises (2012). I have more issues with this than any other in The Dark Knight Trilogy.
5. Inception (2010).
6. Following (1998).
7. Insomnia (2002).
8. Dunkirk (2017).
9. Tenet (2020).
10. Interstellar (2014).
11. The Prestige (2006).
Of those, I've only ever seen The Dark Knight Trilogy at the cinema. I won't be seeing Oppenheimer (2023) there either.
What the heck? The Prestige at #11? Granted I’ve not seen everything he directed but I was surprised to see it that low.
Personally I’d put it ahead of the Dark Knight Rises (and Batman is my favorite DC character). I just couldn’t believe how bad a job they did with Bane, and how silly the ending was.
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1 hour ago, Octopus said:
I personally like ratings and ranking lists and other fun, but I don’t look at them as definitive truths. Be it with individuals like Meltzer, Wade, @The Natural, @Matt D and websites accumulating broad votes or giving reviews and lists like Cagematch, Voices of Wrestling, Segunda Caida, various podcasts, etc. I just take what is being said as a look into the individual or specific collective group as a view into their own taste and potentially deeper ideologies towards art and wrestling.
My dude Matt not liking Kurt should be unsurprising based on past opinions and thoughts on arguably comparable wrestlers. And that it is different than my opinion is a BEAUTIFUL thing. Love you, Matt. Maybe elsewhere where it won’t get lost in a NXT PPV thread, but I’d love a long write up on wrestling theory and how it applies to Kurt Angle.I’m pro-Kurt, myself.
I’m clearly pro Kurt, and I can’t wait to meet him this summer at a local event that he’s doing a signing at. Plus the last PPV match my dad and I ever watched together was Kurt Angle vs Baron Corbin at Wrestlemania 35 (my dad passed away three weeks later), so I’ll always have a soft spot for Kurt because of that too.
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3 hours ago, Matt D said:
He has one gear: dumb.
How much dumb stuff can you name in the matches I listed? Minus the Shane one obviously since 95% of that was being an ECW tribute match (and thus dumb bumps). I honestly can’t think of anything dumb in the Benoit or Taker matches I listed, and unless a moonsault is considered dumb I don’t think the Shawn match had anything dumb either.
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2 hours ago, Matt D said:
I mean Kurt Angle kind of sucked as a wrestler when it came to the things that actually matter but he wrestled exactly how Dave would have wanted him to get five star matches so who knows.
I’d love to see somebody suck and still have matches half as good as:
King Of The Ring 2001 vs Shane McMahon (while working their third match of the card)
Royal Rumble 03 vs Benoit
Wrestlemania 21 vs Shawn Michaels
No Way Out 06 vs Undertaker
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6 hours ago, TheVileOne said:
Didn't Jericho lose it and ban the internet after star ratings over RVD/Jericho at the King of the Ring?
Why I generally find star ratings dumb. Everyone gets pissed off about them, and then everyone will always cite them given a particular wrestler. Not to mention, it's all opinion at the end of the day.
Do I think it's kind of stupid that Kurt Angle doesn't have a single 5* career match? Yes. But those were people's opinions at the times. To me what makes a good match is if you enjoy it or not and how it makes you feel. IMHO it's not a scientific formula, or at least, it shouldn't be.
Your Kurt Angle point proves why they’re just meaningless opinions. I don’t get why people are so hell bent on my favorite never got 5 stars in WWE or WCW from Dave. When to me I feel like saying if Kurt Angle didn’t then why should your favorite have gotten it? Kurt had some all time classics in WWE.
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1 hour ago, Craig H said:
Adam Cole is fine as is. Jesus Christ the amount hand wringing over his size takes me back to the arguments that CM Punk or Bryan Danielson wouldn't be credible opponents for Brock and lo and behold they both got very good matches out of Brock.
No you’re supposed to crap on Cole, The Bucks, and Kenny because they’re not “legit tough guys like Mox”. Never mind Mox’s idea of being tough is sticking a razor blade in his forehead because he’s not the brightest bulb in the bunch, but hey.
I’m with you that not every main event guy needs to have the same body type or be one of only two extremes (either over developed due to roids or being super fat like back in Hogans days on top).
Plus while I love Darby I think it’s much easier to see why Adam Cole gets the bigger push (in ring is close to equal, and Cole is miles ahead on charisma and mic skill). Yet Darby gets a free pass like he’s the second coming or something.
Not to mention I think the detractors of Cole also love Wheeler Yuta who has negative charisma, and imo wouldn’t draw a crowd if he were presented as a main event guy. Even last night I thought he was the worst part of the six man tag.
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8 hours ago, Brian Fowler said:
So Monty is coming to Detroit. Interesting.
I can’t believe they’re making him the highest paid coach in league history. That was the bigger shock to me.
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Am I the only one that was a bit taken aback that @Gordlow would get called out for having a “weird take”? To me they’re probably the best poster in this section of the board, and my personal highlight was getting to interact with them once (shout out to @The Natural too as I enjoy our interactions).
I may not always agree with Gordlow’s thoughts, but I do admire that they’re well thought out, and it never feels like I’m reading a random rant.
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17 hours ago, The Natural said:
Yes, especially for Dragunov/Dijak.
Once I get around to updating my list again that’s definitely going to be my top WWE match so thanks for the recommendation.
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MONEY IN THE BANK XIV - 7/1/2022
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Gunther vs Riddle seems likely (I see Priest getting the last spot tomorrow then winning the case). As for Rhea I’m not sure who she’d defend against since Raw has Zoey, Becky, and ??? in MITB. I’m assuming Candice or Nattie gets that spot, and if it’s not Natty I hope they don’t run her and Rhea again. I’d be interested in Rhea vs Raquel though.
With the Gauntlet match being on SmackDown this week I think you’re right about KO/Sami too. I’ll guess they defend against Pretty Deadly (smart to get more former NXT UK talent on the card).
Could they possibly do the least predictable thing and run Roman vs Jimmy vs Jey? That would have good suspense plus it would make Solo more interesting having to choose between Jey and Roman.