ExcellenceofAirPollution
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STRONG CLIMB FTW
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IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!!!
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43 minutes ago, Kevin Wilson said:
I don't follow Japanese wrestling as closely as I used to, is there a backstory on why Shibata wrestles in AEW but not in New Japan? Since 1/4/22 he has zero New Japan matches and six matches under the AEW umbrella. I know about his injury history of course and why he doesn't wrestle regularly, does New Japan just not feel comfortable using him but don't mind if other promotions do? Is he even officially signed with New Japan or a Freelancer that affiliates with them?
He had what was supposed to be a no striking exhibition match with Ren Narita at Wrestle Kingdom last year but went in and did an actual match against NJPW's wishes, his first match after having his brain removed. As a result NJPW won't let him wrestle.
He was still working as a trainer for a while but I believe he's completely gone now
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13 hours ago, Go2Sleep said:
So when did Taz start his "_____ Jones" gimmick, and is there a story behind it?
I noticed "Mezzanine Jones" in the Roddy/Jericho FCA a couple weeks ago, and at the ppv he said "Kendo stick Jones." I assume it's a running gag, and it's amazing.
Most importantly, is there a video comp of all his Joneses?
He was definitely doing it on his radio show/podcast back when I was an infrequent listener, which feels like a decade ago
I don't think of it as a New York thing but my dad (Queens) used to do it on occasion (cheeseburger jones if I ordered a cheeseburger and things of that nature). I'm pretty sure with him it's from the Cheech & Chong song though, which is jonesing for something
Someone needs to ask Taz about it
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I don't know if AEW didn't do a good job of explaining it at first but when Orange did the promo with Rene setting up the match I thought it was a battle royale where the winner would face Orange for the title, not Orange defending in the match
I'd like to see it end up with essentially a singles match between Orange and Jay White. Could go either way on the finish. It's a shitty way for Orange to lose, but it's good heat for Jay kinda stealing the title
Could potentially turn into a really good match once they wittle it down to Best Friends, BCG, Ricky, Swerve, Lee etc.
I'm not really that excited for this show. They usually deliver but I haven't really been into the TV lately and the whole Punk thing feels like a dark cloud over the promotion
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I know it's been a few weeks now but I just wanted to say RIP DEAN and send some love to his family and friends
I've been a lurker here since the early 00's, posted under a different account in the green board days. Found this place thanks to DEAN's relentless pimping of THE MIGHTY DEATH VALLEY DRIVER across the internet, I even remember seeing him in the AOL Grandstand in my earliest exposure to the IWC. An absolute legend, right down to continuing to recap AEW from his hospital bed
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I'm completely blown away by the pre-sale numbers. Was thinking 30k in the building would be a huge success even if it didn't look great on TV and they've blown past that. Already a massive success without a card or even wrestlers announced. Bravo AEW!!!
I'm interested to know how many of those went to scalpers. I have no idea how accurate they were or how he got them but a while back Meltzer was giving 'ticket broker' numbers for AEW (and IIRC some WWE) pre-sales. With such a big stadium and so many tickets out I wouldn't think there'd be huge demand in the secondary market, but maybe there will be for the premium tickets...
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I remember Tony doing some interviews before all the Punk stuff went down talking about how he loved all the blurred lines and work/shoot stuff from the 90's like Bret/Shawn and wanted to have more of that in AEW. I didn't like hearing that at the time because I pretty much feel the opposite. As a teenager in the 90s, with the internet being a new thing, I found all the gossip between the 3 big promotions fascinating. I ate up the little shooty comments taking shots at the competition (at least until WCW went off the rails and Russo ran that type of stuff into the ground), Nash/Hall shouting out HBK on Nitro, talent constantly jumping back and forth etc. But it was also a finite window in time where I think this stuff actually worked to the benefit of the talent and the promotions
Nowadays it's not something that adds to my enjoyment of the product. I don't go on twitter but the stuff gets around obviously and IMO it just makes people look petty, thin skined, lame or whatever. I haven't listened to Dax's podcast but seeing all the stuff out of that and on twitter from him has made me less of a fan. I thought it was easy to see through all the 'should we stay or should we go' stuff and found it kind of insulting to my intelligence. I didn't really see any evidence of it working like they intended either. I can't say I'm that interested in Punk-Jericho based off whatever back and forth there has been between them. Jericho has been one of my favorite wrestlers for like 25 years now but the more he talks about AEW backstage/creative the less interested I am in watching him these days
I just want to see AEW put out a good product and be successful. All the backstage drama is a distraction. I think a lot of today's wrestlers struggle to handle the blurring of lines and it leads to morale problems, especially if people start feeling the promotion is working or manipulating them. Plus I haven't seen any proof that it's really drawing younger fans in or anything.
I am kind of curious to know what teens/20 somethings feel about this kind of stuff. If you're a newer fan who didn't live through the 90's maybe the backstage/online stuff is much more compelling than to someone older and kinda jaded like myself
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I remember the match Silas Young had with Hangman a while back, also in Wisconsin IIRC, and thought he got way, way way WAY too much against one of their top guys. That match had a commercial break and a lot of nearfalls IIIRC
I wasn't a fan of that at all at the time, reminds me of some other Hangman matches where he'll go close to 50/50 when it should be more 75/25 in his favor, but it also doesn't make sense to have SY take Hangman to the limit and his next time in get zeroed against Hobbs.
That said, Hobbs should absolutely be squashing people right now and Silas Young is a guy who has friends in the company who they toss a bone to when they're in WISC. He shouldn't be getting more than barely there token offense in.
I'm someone who finds QT very entertaining in his role when it's lower card comedy for babyfaces to get over on. He's a great stooge and he puts it together well in the ring mixing his actual technical talent with his chickenshit comedy. Hobbs should be knocking on the door of the main event at this point, not palling around with a guy who's pretty much been a geek since day 1 in AEW. Don't like this pairing at all. I find this to be the case more often than not in AEW when I'm down on stuff, where I like the talent but I don't like how they're being used
Speaking of geeks, I f'n loved the BCC squash of Nakazawa and Cutler. Loved the crowd getting behind them and actually booing the BCC. Shoutout to Nakazawa's shoes falling off when Claudio dropped him out of the swing, what a great spot. That was my MOTN. Mox and Claudio murdering people with Wheeler being a little dickhead on the outside has been a highlight lately
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5 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:
When someone went to oldprisonstockfootage.com, shouldn't the first thing they do is try to parse out stuff like that? Keep in mind, they have been using old time footage for decades now (especially for like Armageddon named or themed PPVs) with random despots where it probably warrants that. I always wonder if some of that footage is above board. This is the first time I remember them getting in hot water in like 25 years of doing that.
I remember years ago them using old black and white footage of marching armies, tanks, bombs exploding etc. I feel like they might have even thrown in Stalin, Mussolini or a lesser known dictator like Tito in there
It should be fairly easy to figure out where in the chain of command Auschwitz footage got into one of their video packages if they actually investigate it. They have access to all sorts of general use libraries to cull clips from. Did it get snuck into one of those as general prison stock footage? That's the best case for WWE covering their asses. I think more likely it was deliberate by someone. Maybe a 4chan chud in their video editing department who thought he'd be cute and snuck it in there for the lulz, much like the people who flash the "WP" and claim plausible deniability. In either case I do find it easy to believe it could be snuck past whoever in the company watches these videos and approves them before they hit the air.
I doubt we'll ever find out how it really happened and I don't expect much fallout ultimately, but I'm kind of fascinated by this
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Wembley Stadium is crazy ambitious. There's no way they're filling it, and a 1/4 full stadium (if they can even get that) doesn't necessarily look great
There's been markets in North America where they went too conservative the first time in and should have done bigger buildings, but this feels way too strong in the other direction. Hope I'm wrong
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There's a great episode of HDTGM covering the Street Fighter movie in all it's glory
"What, exactly, is a street fighter?"
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I've had Austin Theory's theme stuck in my head since night 1 of Mania. It was the first match. HELP!
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I'm a big AEW fan, but I did watch WWF/E religiously since the 80's until a few years ago, hope I'm qualified to post in this thread
I actually didn't watch RAW, and nothing that did or didn't happen at WM was going to change that. It's too easy to just check out clips on youtube and track down a random match that gets strong word of mouth. I think the last time I watched semi-regularly was around when Shane started the underground fighting thing, so I lasted a long time watching bad 3 hour RAWs.
It reads like Heyman suckering Cody into that scenario. The idea of Brock back with Heyman as a mercenary and Roman having to be in an uneasy alliance with him is intriguing to me, would be an interesting twist to the Bloodline story
I was more glass half full on the Mania booking knowing everything going on and feeling confident that they're invested in Cody and he's a great performer who's been super over since he came back to WWE. Having to go through Brock Lesnar to get another match with Roman is a pretty good story, and another stadium show at Ford Field for SummerSlam is a great place to win the title. And in the meantime Roman hits 1000 days. Win-Win
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https://nypost.com/2023/04/02/ufcs-conor-mcgregor-teases-wwe-title-chase-after-sale-news/
Hopefully everyone has learned from Japan 20 odd years ago
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4 minutes ago, username said:
I am torn as when Cody first showed up back in WWE and got the reactions he did I thought the play was to have him challenge roman at Summerslam or Survivor Series, lose, and then get him at Mania. I felt this as because of the story they are telling he really should fall short at least once, there's too much fertile ground there. Then he got hurt and I went "well it is Mania, he should probably win".
So yeah, it's a big featured spot to lose in, possibly too big of one to do so safely... but I still think there is a lot of story potential in his first shot falling short and how he deals with that.For sure. And he's learned from his last big title match not to stip that he'll never challenge for the title in the promotion again. Save that for the rematch
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stuff I jotted down during the show, I started drinking during the IC title match and my notes get sloppier
- Brock looked super happy during his entrance, he knows he's F'n made with the Endeavor deal, gonna keep getting paid to show up a few times a year
- A minute in this was already the best Omos match. Brock looked like he slipped a disc on that first German where his feet slipped . He was legit hurting there
- left a blank space here
- Gunther in California Uber Alles!!! 45 minutes in we finally got a real match. This ruled. I screamed Jesus Christ at one of Gunther's overhand chops. I think Gunther was the crowd fave at points but Sheamus was really over too. Glad Gunther won, he rules.
- Peacock fucked up Asuka's entrance, it was joined in progress during the Kabuki mask deal. This match was a struggle, something came loose from Bianca's braid early, it was coming loose and it seemed to throw her off a bit. It got going though and turned out pretty good. I'm a big fan of both of these ladies, was a little disappointed not gonna lie
- I don't know what happened with Shane. It looked legit. I wrote down in all caps SNOOP RULES HE SAVED THAT SHIT thinking he reacted on the fly by punching Miz and just following directions from his earpiece to ad-lib. But then I thought, "WHAT A WORK!!!!" I actually think Shane worked the knee injury......I don't know, I was getting buzzed at this point
- "Brood Edge" on the tron????? lame
- "Balor WTF" translates as Balor WTF
- "HIAC STOPPED FOR BLOOD?!?!??!?!?!"
- so yeah, I thought the HIAC was pretty lame. I wrote down stuff about Edge's return being snakebit, how lame Balor came off and how I hate the demon cosplay. I don't know, I don't want to type anymore about it
- I have a feeling that Russell Crowe Priest's Exorcist movie will be a massive hit. What a genius, seems ripe for America in 2023
- what were the Philly fans chanting when they cut to the bar after the promo for next year's Mania?
- then I wrote down some shit about feeling it was a Roman town during Cody's entrance, Roman's entrance being dope, crowd being more pro-Cody when it started etc. etc. Brodie being there. I actually thought they might go close to an hour. Then they hit the first nearfall after the backdrop on the table outside kinda early, then the solo ejection, then they went into a hybrid of the typical Roman match teasing falls but dragging it out more and kinda restarting things, I really liked the pacing and layout of this match. There was one point where they were trading shots and I heard Roman on mic say "we got em" and they did. The Usos getting involved and Sami and Kevin evening things was well placed. This was a pretty great WM main event IMO
Overall Night 2 dragged a lot for me and had me appreciating Night 1 more. I was kinda scoffing at how much people liked it, but then I'm like, "well, I liked it too" and I watched night 2 and I liked 1 a lot better overall, so like, I get it now
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3 minutes ago, The Man Known as Dan said:
I have no real dog in this fight once Sammy lost, as I don't particularly care about Cody Rhodes. Even with that said, I truly don't understand what this company is doing. Cody was getting monster reactions, even survived "Hand picked Babyface the crowd is super behind against the straight forward pick the company once" thing that has murdered others. Even when Sammy lost and I hated it, I did understand Cody winning at Mania made a lot of sense and could understand the argument against it.
Now? I have no clue what they are thinking. I do know any and all talking points about "Jey is gonna take the title of Roman!" is stupid. It's not going to happen and thinking it is silly. And there was nothing at all from keeping the Roman/Jey storyline non-title post Roman winning and it still not being a huge deal. The only thing that feels right is they are still just fishing for Roman/Rock, and man, do I not care about waiting a year to watch a 51 year old come back and end a title reign that has existed for 3 years. They have nobody on the docket that makes sense. I just don't get it.
What makes sense is that Vince is back, he merged/sold his company and he wants "his guy" to be the face of the company coming out of the show tomorrow, and I'm sure he wasn't the only one. From that perspective it totally makes sense
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6 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:
This might be lost on some non baseball fans, but Cody post-tonight is like when the big prospect on your team comes up and experiences adversity and people begin to doubt if this guy really as good as a #1 prospect should be. There's still ways for that player to become the best player in the game, but also ways for the whole thing to be sort of a bust or for people to crap on that prospect for not being better because he's not the best player in the game.
Same comparison could be made with NFL QBs. A bunch of guys get money with the hope that they can be as good or better than Patrick Mahomes, but if they struggle, cya!
I guess if they wanted to, they could move things in a way where Cody isn't seen as a failure who now has a section of fans with reasons to crap on him, which could fester. Like how AEW Cody likely had a peak as a face and then kept declining and declining in popularity. Of course people at WWE shows are different.
But Cody just had a 90 OPS+ rookie season after Baseball America said he was gonna be the next Jeter.
In theory, they could be doing some larger story to put the belt on Cody Rhodes later. But consider that this is the WWE and that Cody's small by their standards and not seen as being as good of a worker like other small guys that they put the titles on. Also, it's the WWE and they don't associate small guys with big money.
So say hello to Roman Reigns becoming the new Hulk Hogan once he gets turned face and has to fight off the Bloodline.
Cody's not a prospect he was a prospect 15 years ago
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4 minutes ago, Andrew POE! said:
Partially serious. But eventually whatever audience that is left for WWE won't be back to hear Reigns drone on and on every week. It's borderline HHH "Reign of Terror" territory.
I lived through that shit cmon bro. He's way more over and WWE is doing record business. you gotta be trollin
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3 minutes ago, southofheavy said:
Adrenaline
in mah sooo
How'd I lose?
I hit Dad's elbow
I wish I could give this multiple likes
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I just want to say that after the Endeavor merger today, considering how Roman is the franchise, if I could have bet on Roman assuming the odds still strong in Cody's favor I would have done that. And I felt stronger on that during Roman's long entrance. I wasn't as shocked as I would have been yesterday, but I was still pretty surprised. I was honestly thinking if ever a time for a Dusty finish this is it, there was enough time left on PPV, but twas not to be
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I'm late to the Vince McMahon mustache party and it's slightly less important than the Endeavor news but he looks like a ferret and I can't unsee it
I think it's the dyed eyebrows and the beady little eyes
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2 hours ago, Eivion said:
Cole mentioned Charlotte told Rhea she earned it so it was more proud respect moment.
to me she looked genuinely happy for Rhea and like she knew they just tore the house down
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AEW TV - 6/21 - 6/26/2023
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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I was surprised they had Tanahashi wrestle 24 hours before the match with MJF. He knows his body but it doesn't seem advisable. Him and Kingston both in the G1 is asking for trouble. I think the match with MJF will be good despite his limitations. It's the opener and the crowd should be electric, Tana still connects and is a great seller and most of the match should be MJF on offense.
Loved Christian's line, "I left last week's show in a bad mood for a lot of reasons...". Pretty inside. If you don't know, Meltzer in the Observer quoted an anonymous wrestler who said that in regards to the mood backstage with Punk back...
Andrade's over the post moonsault was insane. I really like both these guys but this match didn't fully click. Feels like they're building up to LFI vs. HoB when Rush is back. the matches should be good but the face/heel stuff is fubar
Kelly absolutely butchered Takeshita's name at one point. He called Matthews Murphy last week too. Overall I find him inoffensive. Don't love or hate him like some do and it's good for Collision to have a different voice. Nigel is pretty good.
dug the main event, think I liked it better than last weeks. Everyone was on point, felt like Punk did more than last week, Juicy was great, Cash has looked great lately and almost killed himself old school D-Bry fashion on that dive through the ropes. very pleasantly surprised to see White pick up the win
I love long multi-person tags where everybody gets time to shine. Some of my favorite eras of WWE TV for match quality were when Evolution was in 6 and 8 man tags on a regular basis against various babyfaces, and 2013/2014 with the Shield, Danielson, Kane, Orton etc. in great multi-man tags carrying tv for months.
The weeks long slow burn of the Gunns joining Bullet Club seems to have paid off here, looks like they're official. Perfect fit. Maybe a bit of an homage to the New Age Outlaws and DX where they were associated on tv for a bit before officially joining? I dig the Gunns, their theme has long been one of my favorites and their current entrance with the rotating camera and Austin doing the finger guns with the mist is dope. They've got the right energy for this incarnation of Bullet Club
Crowd was great, heat for Punk was great, Forbidden Door looks great, WAR AEW