JML
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16 hours ago, Oyaji said:
Why do people still read/listen to newsletter editors for opinions? Everything is right there these days waiting to be watched. Bryan and Vinny are brain dead.
I heard the rant and it shows that they don't care about this show going into this. Vinny said the show was either boring or uncomfortable to watch. Uncomfortable I get if you don't like Intergender but boring? And Alvarez got stuff wrong in the recap as usual.
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1 hour ago, Go2Sleep said:
I never knew I wanted to see Pentagon Jr vs. Io Shirai so much until this week. Thanks LU!
Really the whole gauntlet was pretty well done. Kairi Hojo (Doku) bumped her ass off in the first match, and that was a great counter into the arm-breaker finish. Mayu's (Yure) match was maybe a bit long, but she looked good and the catch into the package pile driver was super cool. Then the Io (Hitokiri) match was just legit great. I'm not sure the bar is real high, but it's probably the best intergender match I've seen. Totally agree that the entire triad came out looking great even, though two of them lost. If they play up the dark magic healing aspect and "heal quickly" from their broken arms, they're set. They should be trios champs before the end of the season.
Also liked the unexpected character depth for Jeremiah and the thought of good indy Sami Calihan vs. LU Mil Muertes is appealing.
I'm not a big fan of Intergender wrestling but one of the better ones you will ever see is the Masato Tanaka/Nanae Takahashi match from January. But the Io/Pentagon match blew that one away.
55 minutes ago, Oyaji said:I was annoyed Hojo didn't get the shine the other two did initially but it really did make sense. She's easily the best seller of the group, so have her be the one to take on a fresh Pentagon and receive a huge amount of damage. Mayu's selling in their match wasn't good (how much of that was the editing, I don't know), so having her start off would've been a mistake.
I think this may have been a one off. I hope not but I'm not expecting them to become regulars. If Hojo and Io stay in STARDOM through 2017, hopefully LU can work out a deal to use them more often. Just replace Lotus if they're going to keep running with the Triad deal. They do subtitles for the luchadores who don't speak English. They could do the same with these three.
With seeing Mayu a lot this year, I just chalked up her lack of selling as Mayu blowing throw limb work like she usually does. She's like many young male wrestlers who work at that speed.
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I think anybody who is a fan of Threedom needs to see tonight's episode of Lucha Underground. Great episode and I can see WWE upping their contract offer for Io specifically cause she was unbelievable.
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4 hours ago, NikoBaltimore said:
I'll get the bad part out of the way: At first with Vampiro being relatively quiet I feared Matt would talk more. But the way Vampiro was going on in that third Triad match I wish he was quiet. I love the guy, but I REALLY did not need to hear how this was getting him going in that way. Ewwwwwwwww....
But the show itself was fucking AWESOME! I don't know who was which Triad member, but if they're all in Stardom then I'm subscribing. I loved all three so much, and looks had very little to do with it (admittedly it didn't hurt) But there was progressing level of violence from each member that came out and it told a wonderful show-long story. Even if the first two lost it wore down Pentagon Dark, and by the time he lost all three looked super strong due to their contributions. I'm not a fan of intergender matches, but this was the way to go. It was violent yet it was the Triad dishing as much of it as he was, and at times even more. Just wonderful, wonderful stuff.
Non-match related, loved the cutscenes a ton. Matanza punching out a ? led to one helluva visual.
Yes, all of the women are in Stardom. Stardom World is a good service but the match quality has dipped from last year. Kairi Hojo was the first one and Io Shirai was the last one, which is funny cause Meltzer reported a month ago that they have been offered WWE contracts. Mayu Iwatani was the second one and is the future ace of Stardom.
Its been a while since I've watched LU and I loved it. Home run of a show. I'm looking forward to Matanza and Rey too so they got me back in.
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13 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said:
I am in the process of starting the contemplating phase of making a Top 100 Joshi Wrestlers Ever List. I realize these are subjective and there is no right or wrong answer, my only concern is I'll accidentally leave off someone. I know I'll have Chigusa higher than most and Bull lower than most, but besides that my Top 10 should match most peoples even if the order is different.
My "gap" in viewing is like 1998 to 2009. Which I realize is a hell of a gap, that part of Joshi isn't talked about much so I've mostly been focusing on 1985 to 1995, then current day. I've seen matches here and there in that range, but not enough for example to get a good feel of how Manami Toyota was post her big AJW run. So while its impossible to watch everything, I do feel like I need to do a bit more in that era before diving too strong into it.
I think the hardest part of these lists is deciding where to put wrestlers still in their prime today. Has Io done enough to be on the list? Kana? If I put them on the list now and they have five to ten more years of wrestling, where would that put them then? I don't want to do only retired wrestlers since so many Legends are still wrestling, so its one of those things that no matter what I do with the current bigger stars someone will take exception to it.
Just be prepared for the backlash to your list when it starts floating around on twitter.
I wouldn't mind seeing the results of a Joshi GWE Project that had the same rules as the PWO GWE Project. Would be interesting since Joshi wasn't really represented in the top 100 in the PWO GWE.
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22 hours ago, 1JoshI said:
Do PUNQ's reviews still exist anywhere on the net?
Oh, and the 11/9 Sendai Girls show is great. You'll want to watch everything except the ubiquitous Alex Lee match. Even the Eiger comedy match is a bit better than usual, because Hikaru Shida. Also, it was clipped pretty hard. C-Hash and Miyagi really came through in the main event, and I was a bit worried about them being able to pull off a Korakuen worthy main. The semi-main is a great tag between Meiko & Ayako vs Aja & Hiroyo. I'm a bit worried that DASH Chisako is becoming too enamored with the idea of being a hardcore wrestler, though.
You can try looking at PUNQ's reviews through the way back machine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080411063728/http://groups.msn.com/PUNQTapes/reviews.msnw?
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On 11/14/2016 at 2:16 AM, Kevin Wilson said:
If that attendance figure is right, Oz Academy easily took over Sendai Girls' as highest attended Joshi event of the year. Glad to see Hiroyo get a big win, she deserves it. Looks like a great card, although I do wish Kaho didn't get pinned in seemingly every match she is in. Hopefully her excursion to Mexico goes well. Interesting pairings with Yoshiko teaming with Hashimoto.
Yeah the 2330 Oz did this year compared to the 2025 they did last year is a good sign. Sendai drawing two houses of 2,000 along with Ice Ribbon doing 1,552 for their anniversary show and Stardom having a steady attendance at Korakuen makes an argument that the Joshi scene is moving in a positive direction.
I know people are going to say the attendances aren't legit but these are the only numbers we can go by unless someone from Japan is reporting the real numbers.
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12 hours ago, Trocar Slush Weasel said:
Are you kidding, not with those bangs. That's a straight babyface rookie hairdo. Can't see her pulling off this look for a while.
Idk if that's the case here when she works Stardom cause how much in storyline that the Rookies wanted to beat up Hana. I agree with Kevin that she will most likely be babyface rookie in Oz, JWP, that new W-1 Dojo brand called Pro Wrestling Ace, etc and will be a heel in Stardom. She has to fill in for her mom spot once she retires.
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Here are my thoughts about Stardom's October Showdown Show and the future of Stardom. http://wrestlingwithwords.com/stardom-october-showdown-review-results-october-30-2016-and-whats-the-future-for-stardom/
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7 hours ago, Eivion said:
I wasn't aware she was working behind the scenes now.
I think people assumed she was because she's continuously worked for Stardom and she was there at the press conference after the shoot incident with Nanae, Fuka, and Rossy Ogawa
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1 hour ago, Trocar Slush Weasel said:
One person we haven't mentioned when talking about Japanese women getting poached by WWE is Hana Kimura. She's got a great look and is already about as good as the average NXT woman now. I don't know if she speaks English but I'm pretty sure she understands it. Of course, WWE might still be smarting from the last teenage woman they signed.
I honestly think Stardom has big plans for her after her run with the trios title. After seeing the SamuraiTV version of the Korakuen show, it's not a question they are looking at her to the future. She is striking looks wise when you first see her and if she becomes really good, we could definitely be asking the same thing. Like you said, WWE is probably not going go after a 18/19 year old but you never know with them.
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6 hours ago, Eivion said:
Its more that I see no reason for her to become a freelancer otherwise as she is already a regular or been a regular just about everywhere sans Stardom & Sendai. Of course it could just be a case of cutting out the middleman in JWP when negotiating her appearances. Maybe its just that. Regardless Is till hope she shows up in Stardom next year.
I remember liking Miyu a while back so I'm a bit disappointed though its not JWP was going to do anything with her anyways.
I feel the same way about this as Arisa was already on a handful of shows. Something is up to me and Meltzer reporting in the Observer that Kairi is close to leaving with Io doesn't help.
4 hours ago, .STAP said:I wish this rumored tournament would just be announced already so I can stop worrying about it. It's like a claw crane that is looming ominously over joshi and I'm just waiting to see which of my favorite wrestlers it'll snatch up.
I'll say it again that WWE is the elephant in the room that people won't look at until it makes a sound.
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Looks like they ditched the Bito title win like I thought. From what I've seen through pictures and tweets, Kairi came out after the match. Didn't issue a challenge yet but I can see them running Kairi vs Io title for title match on the December 22nd Year End Show to get the belt off of Io if Kairi is staying.
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48 minutes ago, .STAP said:
Aja would probably greet Rossy with a uraken if she ever saw him again. They don't have a good history.
I was about to say something like that. She sued Rossy over the 15 years ago back in the Arsion days so there's no chance there. Probably you can put her, Ayako Hamada, Nanae Takahashi, Yoshiko and all of Ice Ribbon on the list of people that Rossy will never have in a Stardom ring.
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1 hour ago, Trocar Slush Weasel said:
Um, so how is this gonna jibe with the Lucha Underground appearance that hasn't been broadcast yet? Is somebody gonna end up suing somebody or will LU just not show it?
I've pondered this too. I've asked about it in other places and heard nothing. Maybe they are masked so it might give them a way out. From what I remembered from the spoilers, they are involved in a major angle.
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1 hour ago, Eivion said:
This news saddens me as Stardom fan. I kind of figured Io would come eventually. I would have signed her before Kana (she was my no. 2 pick) if I was WWE. Kairi was more of 50/50 chance and still seems to be. I hope she stays in Stardom for now. It would be nice to see her in the ace role for a little while.
I agree but with Kairi, she's been more up front with wanting to go to WWE than most wrestlers and I think she would do well. Very dramatic worker and would adapt to the WWE style. Io, on the other hand, has the chance to be what Rey was in WCW and just wow the casuals if they don't have limits put on them.
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54 minutes ago, Kevin Wilson said:
This would be a good time for the Stardom Dude to pop in, I am sure he could provide some insight
I don't think Sonny or anybody else that runs the Stardom accounts on social media (Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, here) wants to look at a computer or phone right now.
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6 hours ago, Ligerbusa said:
I'm not the only one who saw this coming a mile away, right?
On the positive side, maybe I'll get to see Kairi at Mania weekend.
It was rumored last month when 2ch noticed that Io started following Funaki and Triple H on Twitter. I thought it was just speculation anong the Japanese hardcore fans but it started to make sense when the WWE tryout with all of the indie women happened and the rumored start of the Women's Classic being in January/February.
It will be interesting if they abort the Yoko Bito title win that looked like it was coming and put the belt on Kairi in December.
Like Kevin said, it's not the end of Stardom but it definitely hurts the promotion.
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The Sendai Girls show is basically a two match show cause they cut a lot from the undercard matches. I had the tag match at ***1/2 and the main event at ****. Hashimoto is still raw but she can hang in a main event. Scary spot towards the end of the match where Hashimoto did a German right on Meiko's head. The ref looked afraid as he was trying to stop her cause Meiko was holding her neck. He literally told her to stop and cover at one point.
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I just thought the Hashimoto title win opens up a lot of possibilities for outsiders to come in and challenge for the title. Miyagi is challenging next month but we could Aja, Nanae, Yoshiko and others come in for challenges.
Also, the rumored WWE Women's Classic is also the elephant in the room as the Cruiseweight Classic set the precedent. I can see Meiko Satomura leaving to do WWE and not sign with them like Kota Ibushi did.
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1 hour ago, Kevin Wilson said:
Even with all that, I still think it would be the biggest upset of the year in Joshi if Hashimoto beat Satomura so early in her career. Mostly because it is Satomura, if someone else had the belt I could see it but Satomura is the most respected/protected veteran currently in Joshi and I don't think she'll lose to a rookie (or near rookie). I figured that Hashimoto would put up a good fight and earn some kudos, then win in the re-match late next year or the year after. Hashimoto has no big singles wins and even lost to Miyagi as recently as August, while she has been pushed a bit more than the average rookie she still has match results like a rookie when facing people ranked over her.
I'm not saying its impossible, but the story Sendai Girls' has been telling this year hasn't given me any reason to believe Hashimoto is winning, not against Satomura anyway. Hashimoto is Sendai Girls' top rookie and if she stays in the promotion I do think Satomura will put her over, but I just think its too soon.
That was my thinking before but I had to think to myself about why are they doing this match now on what is supposed to be the biggest show of the year (we'll see when the number is announced). If they did this just to get a big attendance number and not to make a new star, then I feel it's a missed opportunity.
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For a while, I didn't think that Meiko would lose to Hashimoto on the 10/16 show. Maybe I was in denial but after I saw the RIZIN show and these tweets, I've changed my thinking.
RIZIN put over the Olympic Japanese Women's wrestling team over hard in the video packages and they seem to be the Olympic darlings in Japan similar to what the gymnastics team is in the US. Hashimoto being on college national team and doing that photoshoot with Eri Tosaka for Weekly Pro makes me realize it would be foolish not to put the title on Hashimoto.
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On a brighter side, depending how you feel about Yoshiko, the 9/28 Seadlinnng show was another good show by the promotion. I thought the Arisa/Ryo match was borderline great, Nanae/Rina was a cracking kick ass match and Yoshiko/Aja Kong was a decent main event.
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10 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said:
I'm not a big Rabbit Miyu fan (I think she is fine but not in my Top 25 Joshi wrestlers), so it would depend for me on how much she was in the match. I doubt it topped Io/Kay Lee Ray for me though :). I'd be interested in Bolshoi/Chisako probably more though. Hope they taped it.
The King of Trios Final in Chikara between the teams was a pretty good match and I would recommend checking out.
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Joshi Puroresu Discussion Thread
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Yesterday's Oz Academy show drew another 2,000 people for a house show in Oita.