JCM
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1 hour ago, Niners Fan in CT said:
WWE was doing so well in '96 that they almost went out of business. Thanks, HBK. I'm kind of an idiot because I've just been assuming this whole time that Braun is going over at No Mercy. I didn't even consider a different outcome.
If current WWE was going up against the hottest angle ever in a rival company like 96 WWE was they would be doing just as bad if not worse.
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2 hours ago, Eivion said:
Don't like Asuka on Raw at all. Sasha is the only new match, and I can't see them giving a good ending to Asuka's streak here. SDL would have been a lot more interesting.
I really want an Asuka/Becky feud so hopefully they do a Bayley or Sasha for Becky trade. Sasha has already won the Raw title four times if she isn't turning she needs to go to SDL.
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4 hours ago, Trebor said:
Asuka on RAW would be a great way to work the Bayley gets her redemption by finally overcoming the one opponent she has never beaten.
It writes itself: Bayley has never been the same since losing to Asuka.
Most of the Raw audience has no idea about Bayley and Asuka's matches against each other in NXT. They also might want to get Bayley to the point where she's actually over before they bother with a redemption story line.
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12 hours ago, sydneybrown said:
To all the naysayers, I don't think they could have handled the Asuka situation any better. They didn't even bring up her injury to my knowledge. They just said RAW and Smackdown want her and it is time for her to go. She came out of this so much better than if they pulled the "30 day" rule. Now she looks like the woman who "beat" NXT. She's undefeated, held the title longer than any champion since probably Hogan, and now she's leaving because she has nothing left to prove.
Yes Asuka having a two year undefeated streak, and leaving the territory after running through every challenger makes her look strong we know that. The issues are the division of losers she left behind. They almost have to put the title on a MYC competitor at this point. Also this angle made Ember look like an even bigger chump which I didn't think was possible. "Yay I'm so glad the person I couldn't beat for the title is leaving as the undefeated champ." They buried the current NXT women's division so Michael Cole can spout off some stats about Asuka on Raw.
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Abbey/Mercedes is one of the few matches I've lost interest in so far. Pretty poor match imo, and I have no idea why they put Martinez in the final four.
Candice/Baszler was really short, but still pretty awesome. They set up Shayna as the big heel in the tourny only to have her face another heel in the next round.
Storm's performance was too hammy for me. Piper should've went over here as she's easily the best of these two based on this tournament.
Kairi/Dakota was good as expected. I'm bummed we're not getting Kairi vs Piper in the final four as I think they've been to two best in the MYC.
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Owens seems to have lost weight since he bought that Big Show shirt as a kid. What was that a XXXL?
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Lacey is too green to be in working on top, but she did have some nice signature spots in this match. Toni Storm looks like a star, and carries herself like a star, but hasn't really backed it up in the ring yet.
I thought Mia/Shayna was really good even if Mia pretty much no sold the ankle after the ankle lock. The redone commentary was probably for kissing Shayna's ass. The Horsewomen stuff is a distraction from the tournament and I'm not a fan of it.
Ripley is going to be a star sooner rather than later. I think she looked even better here than the first round. Obviously she was in there with a better opponent as I think Dakota is one of the best in the MYC, but still for a 20 year old with her level of experience this was impressive.
Candice/Savoy wasn't bad it just never really got going. Savoy wasn't very impressive even with someone who could bump for her suplexes.
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I didn't like anything Serena did in that match. Her offensive choices were bad, and kicking out of that wonderful Vader bomb was bullshit.
Kairi's reaction to seeing the trophy was great. Kairi's timing on the kickout of the 450 and Bianca's reaction were perfect. Holy shit at that spinning backfist. That was a great showcase for Bianca, and she should only get better.
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I have next to no interest in SDL right now. I watched all of Nak's NXT run, and it was decent at best(and that was with good booking). Roode as a face is just wrong. Jinder as the champ is the pits. Ditto for Nattie as women's champ. The tag division has all of 2 teams in it. AJ has been saddled with uninspiring opponents. Then you have acts like Orton and Ziggler who I go out of my way to avoid. Corbin is now a running joke. Charlotte has done nothing since coming over( turn her back to heel please), and Becky is an afterthought. It would take an Asuka/Becky feud to get me back into this show.
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1 hour ago, Beech27 said:
Fwiw, Meltzer has said the entire thing was scripted, other than Cena's "it's called a promo" dig after Roman forgot his line. The exchange went exactly how they wanted it to go, for better or worse.
Meltzer is just taking a guess he isn't in the room with writers. I have a hard time believing "I'm still here because you can't do your job" was scripted unless Vince fucking hates Roman.
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Agree with Conti being more impressive than Evans, but I get why they put Lacey over. Taynara, Rhea Ripley, and Bianca are some good looking prospects. Sara Logan was also impressive.
I like that they have time to build Kairi up with Ember and Nikki Cross being over and near the top of the card. Kairi vs Ember should be a money match down the line.
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Candice's match was pretty good. Taynara Conti has a lot of potential. She has a good look, seems to be charismatic, and was using her judo skills quite well. Savoy/Gonzalez was a match. Yeah so many of these matches have been held back by one of the women just not being very good. Here it was Gonzalez who really just didn't bring much to the table. Kairi and Tessa had a fun bomb fest I'd say one of the two best of the first round along with Piper/Santana. Kairi is head and shoulders above the other women in this tournament with her selling and crowd interaction. Everything fells natural with her such a great babyface. Kairi is so likeable even the people she beats likes her lol.
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Storm/Raymond was just sort of there. Dakota/Devi was ok for what they were going for. Bianca's hair is ridiculous and distracting. She's almost stepping on it when she walks. Sage wasn't very impressive in this. Man Bianca did that spear head first. She'd get flagged and fined in the NFL for that. The Santana/Piper match was a testament to how good Piper is. Great bumping for someone her size, and great looking hurty offense. Santana held up her end, but to me that was the Piper Nevin show.
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That Evers/Belle match was embarrassing. Belle was worse than someone wrestling their first ever match lol. Rhea Ripley is a good looking prospect. She has good ring presence for a 20 year old. I think she's been one of the most impressive in the tourney up to this point. Yim/Logan was the first legit good match of the first two episodes.
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I actually think the bright spot of the episode was Vanessa Bourne not being terrible. Shayna's finish was cool, but the match was nothing up til that move.
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I can't say I was impressed by anything on that first episode.
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22 hours ago, Beech27 said:
Ember didn't beat her; but she broke her in one of the best matches of the year.
Ember is the one who broke by tapping out. Asuka fought on with a fractured collar bone thus looking like an even bigger bad ass while winning the match.
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45 minutes ago, Craig H said:
Everything you're saying is also moot because they've already had one NXT women's champ (Paige) vacate the title when she moved onto the main roster. Last I checked, when that happened, it didn't kill the credibility of Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley, or Asuka.
The women's title is a far bigger deal now(as is NXT) and it had very little history behind it when Paige moved up. It didn't hurt the Horsewomen because they were better wrestlers than Paige, and they were they ones who really put the division on the map. Who's going to come in and be head and shoulders above Asuka?
51 minutes ago, Craig H said:And when she debuts, that's going to be the talking point. This is the motherfucking terminator of the NXT women's division, the unbeatable Asuka, and she's coming to kick ass and take someone's title. And you're going to tell me that isn't going to help Asuka?
It could help, but she doesn't need it her talent speaks for itself. Is giving Asuka some help when she may not need it worth gutting the credibility of NXT's women's division?
1 hour ago, Craig H said:Every title match won't have mentions of Asuka's reign.
For the foreseeable future they most certainly will.
1 hour ago, Craig H said:If it is referenced, so what? It serves more to build her legacy and the legend of Asuka.
And what exactly does that do for the women still in NXT fighting for a belt Asuka gave up because they couldn't beat her?
1 hour ago, Craig H said:If nothing else, this is the perfect ending for Asuka. She cleaned the division out and ended her NXT run on one of her toughest test's as a champion
Yeah a perfect end for Asuka while the women who make up the division she left are seen as second class citizens. How can you call any of the current women in NXT a legit champion when they couldn't beat Asuka while she was there? They will probably have to turn to someone from the MYC to be the champ now, and it almost certainly has to be a heel. How could Ember win a tournament for the belt and be seen as legit at this point? Everyone will just say "yeah but you couldn't beat Asuka". Maybe it'll work out ok, but as someone who has been highly invested in NXT's women's division for 3 years this stinks.
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Heyman really missed out not selling Sandman beer cups.
I HATE Asuka giving up the belt. It fells like a total rip off to me as a die hard NXT fan. We've invested 2 years watching her undefeated streak, and nearly a year and a half for her title reign. What do we get as the big payoff to this? Absolutely fucking nothing. Imagine if Brock gave up the belt after beating Stroman because no one could beat him and went back to UFC for real competition. How does anyone follow him as a credible champion? They killed the credibility of the next NXT women's champion(and potentially a few more after that) so Asuka could debut on the main roster with a Goldberg like winning streak.
Asuka doesn't need a winning streak to get over. She's the best women's wrestler on the roster, and the most charismatic. Telling the audience she has 200 match 2 year winning streak that they haven't followed isn't going to make her more over. In fact it'll put even more pressure on her to be great right out of the box. I don't think it helps Asuka, and it's a huge blow to the NXT women's division's credibility going forward. Every title match will have mentions of Asuka's reign, and how none of these geeks could beat her.
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5 minutes ago, Raziel403 said:
They've got an issue with Asuka. She's hurt, so if they want to get the title off her and get her out, now's the time. The problem is there isn't ANY woman on the NXT roster at her level. Either kayfabe or otherwise. They got the shot, get her out now. Then focus on building the next round up. She was supposed to be a stopgap that just exploded, she can't stay down there forever, and really, can't wait for the next credible challenger to show up. I mean, yeah they got Sane there, but let's be honest, they're gonna have the same problem with her they had with Asuka.
SpoilerThe fans would've bought Ember winning at Brooklyn. This is them wanting to use Asuka's NXT winning streak as her gimmick on the main roster. The large majority of those fans don't know or care about her winning streak, and it completely kills the credibility of the next NXT women's champ. Hell it may taint the division for a long time to come. It's a shame really because NXT's women's division was what helped it stand out from the main roster and get the company some buzz.
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I really hate that they had Asuka give up the belt. I feel ripped off as an NXT fan who prefers it 10 to 1 over the main roster. Whoever wins the title next is a big geek that couldn't beat Asuka. Plus they have to have another tournament at the same time as the MYC. They took a big shit on the credibility of the next champ so they can say Asuka has a winning steak the main roster audience doesn't care about.
taping spoilers/rant
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Pretty generous ratings for Black/Itami, and especially the main event.
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2 hours ago, Craig H said:
In those situations with a brand split, yes, Cena put them over clean, but they also just buried Corbin. Do you honestly think the same happens without a brand split? Don't be obtuse. Orton put over Bray? Fucking really? That is really laughable. Also, let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet. There's nothing indicating Lesnar is going to put over Strowman.
Again though, you're using examples of what the reality is with a brand split to show that things would be different if the brands were combined. That's just dumb. Combined brands leads to different booking. Brands being split gives them added flexibility to do something different.
Corbin buried himself by running his mouth on Twitter and being terrible. Without a brand split he would've never been so overpushed. The thing I responded to was that nobody but Orton, Cena, Brock, or Roman would be champ without the brand split which I disagree with. If Lesnar is going to be fighting Jon Jones he'll drop the belt. Even if he doesn't I would think WWE wants to have their world champ on tv every week during football season.
Brand split gives flexibility, and it also gives shallow women's and tag division on each show with every match up ran into the ground. So far the best thing to come from the brand split was Heath Slater's push on SDL.
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15 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said:
You seriously think about it, and tell me honestly, if anyone other than Cena, Lesnar, Roman, or Orton holds the World Championship.
Cena put over AJ and Nak clean, Orton put over Bray and Jinder, Roman put over Braun and Joe, and Lesnar is about to put over Stroman. So yeah I could see several other people with the belt without a brand split. Those guys aren't being booked as unbeatable. Brock has been dominated by Stroman two times in a row now.
What Happens On Smackdown Live, Stays On Smackdown Live - 9/12/2017
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WTF is up with an unprotected headbutt in the year 2017 right after Shibata had to retire?