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1 minute ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Vanilla ass Disney PG Punk. No thanks.
Am I the only one who read that as deliberately disingenuous? How much thicker could he have laid it on? That certainly was one of the more interesting routes they could have taken there, especially with the whole "everyone is glad I'm back line."
Won't be tuning into Raw regularly again but that certainly was unexpected from the Muffin Man.
Um... rest of the show......
R-Truth knowing the "goths" weakness of powdered snacksI've never hated anything in wrestling more than Tozawa's stupid dance and New Day's reaction to it.
Tag scramble was fun, nice showing for the Creeds.
Really loved Sami and Drew's segment backstage, loving Sami as this conscience of the locker room these days, some of the best babyface work out of WWE in a really long time. On the flip side, Orton and Jey felt a little.... quick, like Orton is one who is known to forgive easily.-
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1 hour ago, Cobra Commander said:
just read an AP push alert for a story about "off-grid schools" selling diplomas to people who never graduated high school and immediately thought of a very meta wrestling gimmick:
a wrestler from a diploma mill wrestling school
not sure if there's a good enough ex-backyarder who could present themselves as having paid an old wrestler money to claim to be trained by them
i've had the "identity theft" concept for an angle for awhile which likely would bomb horribly if done in real life
Wasn't this more or less Mass Transit?
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Thought it was a pretty middling show. The gals stole the show. Bayley taking the bullet for Kairi was really interesting given what it seems like all this is building too. I'm not the biggest fan of Bianca but thought she should have pinned Bayley based on how this match came about.
Iyo falling out of the sky with a trash can over her feels like it has great meme potential.
Thought it was odd Miz had to cheat in that one. Wondering if it's setting up a rematch sometime where if he's gonna win he's gotta do it the right way. Really surprised by how invested they are in WALTER. I guess with years of the IC title not really meaning much and seeing it on such a great, great wrestler is just a little shock.
Honestly checked out during Dragon Lee and Santos which I felt bad for since I do really like both guys. This was a great showcase for Zoe too, she's really got something.
Main was.... fine. The bait and switch on the cash in was really interesting, that would have been a hell of a way to do a cash in. I liked the little fake outs for Punk all night with "WELL IF RANDY ISN'T HERE" only for..... The ending was a little anti climactic and but feels like more of the drama was on Randy and Jey than the faces vs. Judgment Day.
And, the straight edge elephant in the room. Punk was one of my favorite wrestlers for a long time. I don't drink because my father is an alcoholic. I really admired him for walking out on WWE the way he did and I was really into this idea of an older and wiser Punk finishing up his career right on Wednesdays but.... After the way everything went down with him over the past year for him to end up back in a place he (rightfully) went scorched earth on... I popped in the moment but I'm just wondering... what now? What's really there for him? -
LOOK OUT, HE'S GOT A MUFFIN!
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Feel like I'm in the minority for how that main turned out, everyone I had over was just glued to everything. If Cole was gonna be revealed to be the devil, throwing in the towel like a callback to MJF/Cody, how the end of the show hung on just long enough that something still might have happened. MJF has all these battles going on and okay, one is down (Switchblade) but there's still Joe looming. Cole's return has a lot of questions hanging over it (was handing Jay the RoH belt an accident?). We still don't know who the devil is that could be a part of the next chapter of this story. For all the craziness that was set up it was a cool swerve (, bro) to have it just be a really excellent drama filled wrestling match.
Me and a few friends are likely going to World's End and I'm pretty hyped for it.
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"YOU HAVE TOO MUCH GLITTER." - Kevin Owens forever, dude.
Running the telestrater like that - Kevin Owens forever, dude.
Cedric and Dragon Lee was a lot of fun too. Really into this super version of Damage CTRL too. Was interesting too that Dakota was in on Kairi showing up but not telling Bayley. If this setting up women's war games, definitely curious who the 4th will be for the babyface side. -
I went to a House of Glory show right when AEW was getting going. It was after those first 4 shows but before Dynamite started airing. A lot of indy shows in the area were featuring people's goodbye to the indies. That HoG show was The Bucks last indy show and it was a banger against Private Party. That show had a really wild brawl too with Santana and Ortiz against the New York Wrecking Crew.
It was one of those shows that was really good but the HoG crowd really made it something special. Me and my friends were walking to the train after (it was in Queens) talking about how we had kind of that "concert buzz" which we never get from wrestling shows.
Also, I'd never been in that neighborhood of Queens before so I got a little turned around coming out of the train station. I was wearing an Elite shirt and a dude in a young bucks shirt saw I looked a little lost so we talked for a second and he walked me over to the arena. He went to too sweet me after and I went for the low version but he was like "I don't do that one." Also I was when the security guard checked my bag, I had been reading a Preacher volume on the train ride over so he talked to me and my friends about Preacher for a few minutes too.
Scott Hall did a meet and greet before the show too. Looking back I am kicking myself for not getting a pic with him. He was in really good shape those days and I would loved the chance to tell him that Razor was one of my favorites when I was a kid and that I was glad he was doing so well at the time.-
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How do you have Dalton and Caster in the ring together and not let Dalton have a go on the mic? A quick back and forth setting up something for next week would have meant so much more for that match.
A moment for how fucking dope Dralistico looked tonight
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OKAY! Really liked Fox interrupting Swerve's pre show vid to lead right into the match, which was cool. I didn't watch Lucha Underground so don't really know too much about /that/ match they had. Just feels like Fox is a little lost storyline wise now since getting kicked out of Mogul Embassy.
MARK BRISCOE! DUSTIN! KEITH LEE!
.... KEITH LEE VS. SAMOA JOE!!!!-
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22 hours ago, J.T. said:
Billy and The Acclaimed have had a long standing feud with the Ass Boys.
Why would they pass on an opportunity to team with MJF and kick the shit out of their hated rivals? Getting their hands on Switchblade and Juice would just be a bonus.
Plus it is good character development for MJF. He's now got a grand total of four friends instead of just the one..... which could fuel a jealousy angle and a heel turn for Cole when he returns to action.
It feeds in too how a lot of the MJF/Cole story was MJF not knowing what to do with having a friend and that letting people in is a real challenge for him. He put his pride aside for a second to accept help that he desperately needed. It's character growth for him and says a little bit about The Acclaimed too. Bowens and Billy didn't want Caster helping out MJF but they're a tight crew so are gonna back up Caster.... because that's what good guys do.
When AEW is really clicking it's because the babyfaces feel like faces, guys you want to root for because they're complicated and have their struggles but find support and face their own bullshit and grow from it (SEE: Hangman).
And this is why.... Everyone Loves The Acclaimed-
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I love OC and Claudio and really dug the match for the most part but getting a little burnt out on "heel controls most of it then the face hits one or two killshots," guess I'm still annoyed at Seth/Nakamura LMS from a few weeks ago. When OC lost his title I was hoping it would let him explore other avenues like building himself back up, maybe Best Friends chasing the trios titles, or maybe building himself up to face MJF. Him getting back the title never felt right and I'm hoping he doesn't drop it to Mox for a rewind of what should have been Mox's run? I guess OC gets his win back at Full Gear.
Loving the locker room not having MJF's back in this for totally valid reasons. When he said he had one group left I was REALLY hoping it was gonna be House of Black and he was going to have to go into their spooky red room. The Planet Jarrett reveal was fun though.
I noticed Willow's eye looked normal tonight which I think was the first time since she got misted. I like how there's a little ambiguity now of Skye not being with Julia now but also not with Willow again either. Hoping this storyline is a showcase since all 3 of them seem to have really good upside. The Julia Hart Glow Up has been really fun to watch this year.
That post main drama with Billy getting in MJF's face "AFTER EVERYTHING HE'S DONE FOR YOU" was -chef's kiss-. I really hate reading about how AEW's ratings are down when this is the most entertaining the overall show has been in a while. Little long term touches still having an effect. Jericho rightly not wanting to give MJF the time of day, Wardlow and Max's history, Jeri-show of all things.
Also, Shida shit-canning Toni Storma Desmond tonight was pretty great.-
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Edge is on record of saying he wanted to retire against Christian so if this is a short run where he gets to go out on his own terms this time then that's pretty great. I think Nick's heel turn made sense (anger at Darby for forgiving Fox so easily) and we have a ready six man of Cage/Wayne/Luchasaurus vs. Darby/Sting/Edge ready to go.
Outstanding show and AEW rules the motherfucking.... you get the idea.
Danielson/Sabre was everything I hoped it would be. I was super into Hangman/Swerve and was surprised that even though it was Swerve's House~ we didn't at least a split crowd for Hangman. Bucks winning was a surprise since I thought Bucks/FTR was done but I won't complain about another match with those two. Really loved Julia and Kris Stat. I wore my House of Black shirt tonight to support our Spooky B-..... to support her but figured she wasn't winning that one. Someday, she'll get one though. Was surprised the Righteous didn't win but this definitely adds some good steam 1) how MJF can be a double champion without a partner and 2) the mystery angle going on too.
I had a few friends over for the show too and we all said we hope AEW PPVs to Max happens sooner than later as in what like... 6 weeks it's been All In/All Out/Wrestledream and while all 3 were great... it's starting to hit the wallet a little.-
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Look - Lesnar
In Ring - Okada
Promo - fuck me, man.... CM Punk
Now I'm imagining Lesnar handing out rain makers like dudes need a chalk outline after -
Met up with a few friends and one of them brought their sister who had been out of wrestling for a while so it was fun catching her up on who this crop of talent was and at show's end, Orange Cassidy had made at least one new fan tonight.
Also, having to explain "Scissor me, daddy ass" to a lapsed wrestling fan.
This show ruled, which is A LOT having to follow the hype and delivery of London last week and with a certain straight edge black cloud hanging over the show.
Was surprised the champs retained in the opener, yet another DARK ORDER IS BACK moment to lead to.... wondering what's up with this MJF storyline with his neck injury. He has been wrestling a lot more recently so could be a ploy to get out of future matches, but also maybe a ploy against Adam... somehow? I'm digging it either way. Also, MJF vs. Joe, sign me the fuck up.
Kind of weird that we're back in the states means Saraya is a heel again. How long was Toni under the ring for? Great match too, one of those reminders of "Oh yeah, Ruby is really good and probably should be showcased more."
Loved the strap match and was a good "let Danielson sell for the most part since he's been out with an injury" type match. Hell of a gusher from Danielson too.
Kingston's shirt - Yes.
Kenny and Takeshita was incredible. It was a weird of pacing in that Don and Takeshita couldn't cheat but in the end didn't really need to. Being in Jordan's house too, so glad we got reminded that played college ball in..... yaknow......
Having to explain what "The Bang Bang Gang" is to a lapsed wrestling fan was a high point tonight too. Also someone shared a meme that Juice Robinson looks like the Honeycomb monster and.... yeah what has been seen....... Was surprised the crowd behaved during the Elite matches since we were expecting a certain chant to hijack the show. Popped too for the mini cardboard Switchblade standees in the crowd too.
If OC's reign had to end, that was probably the best way to do it. Having sold all these injuries for months on end only to run into Final Boss of the company Mox is a damn fine challenge to fall to. There's plenty of ways this can go too. Does he take time off to heal? Build himself back up to slay the monster? Move onto MJF soon? Best Friends in the Trios division?-
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Really outstanding show, everything that worked really delivered in its own way too.
Really loved Punk faking out Joe for the first "Joe just walks out of the way out of a dive" spot only to get caught a second time with Joe giving a perfect Hashtag DismissiveWankingMotion for Punk's troubles. Joe is the last person I would want throwing a Hogan point at me too. I agree with above that the crowd not knowing about the pepsi plunge took a little air out but it was cool for people who did recognize it. My favorite Punk match post Gripe-Bomb. Samoa Joe - awesome at pro wrestling.
Again, sucked the crowd didn't react how they should have on the Golden Triangle. Ibushi lost a step on it too but Kenny's was gorgeous as always. Would have liked a little more Kenny and Switchblade given their past but that finish ruled YOU GET A V-TRIGGER, YOU GET A V-TRIGGER, GOTCHA! Hyped that we're finally getting Kenny/Takeshita next week. Kenny Omega - Awesome at wrestling.
Bucks/FTR was cool, suffered a little of Young Bucks "kick out of everything" though. Glad Revival retained especially after the Bucks promo last week. Definitely preferred but the FTR/Briscoes trilogy to FTR/Bucks but all 4 guys seem like they put a little something extra in that match. Dax Harwood and Cash Wheeler - Awesome at wrestling.
Stadium Stampede was... odd. Penta leaving mid match to change gimmicks was a really charming thing to happen. Good on Santana for his first match after that much time being... Wembley Stadium. King flipping of Mox while they were both gushing like that post match was one of my favorite moments of the night. Orange Cassidy - Awesome at wrestling.
Was a little weird with Saraya winning but I think it's more than "Hey we're in London." Plus she's got a lot of intriguing opponents. Shida didn't drop the fall, Toni's got a gripe for getting cheated there. I'm on board with this. Toni Storma Desmond - Awesome at wrestling.
Coffin Match kind of was what it was for me. I like that Swerve breaks out the Jimmy Rave robe for big matches. The little video with Darby and Joker Sting was a fun touch too.
Was a little let down by Jericho and Ospreay. I wonder if Jericho got blown up toward the end since he looked like he missed a few things. Really liked the story too of Osprey going a little more high risk and to the air more after Jericho brought up being the one telling him to scale it back. Did like the finish too.
I've said before, I'm okay with Billy Gunn getting one last title run just wish it wasn't at the expense of House of Black. I hope this isn't a usual AEW thing where a champion loses and gets lost for a while. Buddy coming out with the Lantern too really got me. Speaking of kick outs, kind of hate we had THAT as the first Black Mass kickout in AEW. Could have done without Julia taking Scissor Me Timbers too. Maybe set up Malakai and Brody and FTR's next challengers?
Can't say enough about the main. Winning the RoH belts earlier putting a little wrinkle in how would a split up go. MJF cheating early then Cole upping the level of offense after. Max not being as vicious as Cole was. Wondering if Max was gonna drop the charade and just drop Cole with the ring. Cole being torn between his friend (Arguably, the worst person in the company) and the Belt. Max's little shouting bout post match and the two of them holding on for at least one more day after. SOAP OPERAS - Awesome at Wrestling.
Wonderful wonderful wonderful afternoon of the pro graps-
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He's got the whole world in his hands......
Every once in a while in wrestling there's a few people that fans that can really latch onto. Not just cheer or like but really want to see them do well. Bray Wyatt was one of those guys for me. That cult leader promos spoke to the English major in me and then as his character expanded and evolved into the Fiend and giving us the masterpiece that was the Firefly Funhouse match with Cena was everything my film brain and ex horror writer in me could have wanted out of a wrestling match.
The guy was one of the most creative minds to ever do it and it's a shame the company never got behind him in a way to see what his character really could be. He got the most important part of it, commanded the crowd and they listened. "Follow me."
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Great, was planning on wearing my House of Black shirt to my All In watch party now they're probably losing. Figured that match would have been for All Out though. Love Malakai's spiel on the afterlife too. Hate to compare it to Bray Wyatt promos but Malakai showing you can do the spooky stuff while still actually telling a narrative.
Darby yelling "WHO DO YOU HAVE" while Swerve was standing right next to (Brian) Cage was pretty funny. Is the coffin match an 8 man now? That was a pretty quick turn around for AR Fox but nice bit of character for Darby taking the high road there. I hope they let this all play out to see if Nick will be as forgiving, maybe create a wedge between Nick and Darby over this?
Toni Storma Desmond is the best thing to ever happen to the AEW Women's division.
Really good promo from Ospreay but really needs to stop forcing the ", bruv." I get it's there to make him sound obnoxious but there's a line between "he talks weird" and "dude's trying to get that on a shirt." Really liked that 2.0 had a point about Sammy's loyalty too.
Skye Blue and Ruby was fun.
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52 minutes ago, The Natural said:
All In will get the third ever Stadium Stampede match. The first was in 2020 and the second in 2021. Be interesting to see the three names teaming up with BCC. Have no interest whatsoever in Chris Jericho vs. Will Ospreay.
Feeling like Shooter is an easy pick for the BCC side. Danielson should be just about healthy now, right?
Jarrett really did all the heavy lifting in that one. With how limited Jeff Hardy has been recently this easily could have been an 8 man and they probably could have done more creative stuff with more moving parts like that. Really liked the costumes for the match though and Jeff Hardy's facepaint.
(JOKER!) Sting and Prince Nana in a segment together.... stuff like that is why AEW is the fucking best.
I'm ready to say Cole and MJF has been better than the (recent) Bloodline stuff.-
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Favorite AEW promos, when Mox and Kingston were teaming after the blown finish to the Kenny/Mox II had some gems, particularly right after. I remember on the Dynamite after they had an exchange like
Mox: I really wanted to see that explosion
King: Yeah a lot of people did....
Don't know if it counts as a promo but pre House of Black Malakai (the faction) had some great hype videos, I remember the one that lead to Brody King's debut being especially awesome and creepy where closed by talking to a hooded figured "Now you're more than a King."
Punk's "won't you be my valentine" is probably my #1 company wide. Punk and My Jewish Friend were both in absolute top form during their program.-
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8 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:
What a perfect example of Dusty-ism, right up there with "he got him a bicycle", "there's a woman in the men's tawlet"/"she had to stop off and get some relief", "Jives", "he laid his ol' tired ass out", etc.
Plus you gotta love Sarge getting listed as just... "leprechaun".
"I tell you what, Tony Schiavone. When High Voltage goes to the pay-winduh tonight they're gonna have to show TWO FORMS of identification!"-
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So that's "your dad is dead" angle #2 in this company.
Probably gonna come off as heartless here but I'm not really getting behind Wayne like the booking wants me to. I remember back in CHIKARA when Eddie Kingston straight up killed Tim Donst dead and cut a promo after it like "you put him in the match, what did you think was gonna happen?" With Wayne, I keep thinking back to that. If he's gonna get beat up, I keep being told that he's trained and good so it's hard to find sympathy toward "he's just a kid" when I keep getting told the other stuff. Okay I get it attacking him at home and bringing up his dad is some dastardly stuff but don't sell it like he can't fight back. Speaking of, AR Fox kind of sounds like he has a point in all this.HOLY SHIDA! That was the most surprising title change in company history (non TNT title wasteland division). Kind of wondering what this means for the Outcasts now with that little news blip of Saraya not really liking the gimmick or the booking. It's weird since it feels like the fans want to cheer for Ruby and Saraya can't really wrestle that often. I do like the story too of now Shida gets to be a champion in front of fans. I really did like her run during the Daily's Place era.
Was really happy someone other than Mox got the win in the three way. Looking forward to Best Friends/BCC in the parking lot. Best Friends vs. Santana and Ortiz is feeling like a forgotten classic. I liked Kommander a lot more in a tag match tonight. He has that problem where his stuff takes a liiiiitle too long to set up but here at least it worked with the other 3 guys doig other stuff to work around it too. Reminds me, I need to hunt down FTR/Aussie Open from last year.
Matt Jackson and Satnam was an AMAZING visual and I popped pretty hard for Kenny and Nick walking away like "nope, you wanted this!"
So, friend of mine managed to score pretty good tickets to Metallica this Friday and Pantera are opening for them and.... this feels like chapter 1 of Jack running through ex ECW guys but I screamed when Walk hit-
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Was trying to come up with a different answer but I think Logan Paul takes it forever. How this dude wasn't just launched into the sun after the suicide forest thing completely escapes me. Fuck that guy with the business end of a weed whacker.
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11 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said:
If we're talking great CHIKARA matches where Jigsaw keeps up with 3 more established guys, there's also this. Maaaaybe the best CHIKARA match ever? (Mike Quackenbush and Jigsaw vs. Bryan Danielson and Claudio Castagnoli).
https://youtu.be/A1QzDuhGLbE-
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On 7/29/2023 at 10:46 AM, Dolphman 3000 said:
Ibushi/Jigsaw/Generico/Nick Jackson 4-way from CHIKARA is probably the best "video game" match where they're going a million miles an hour, but they're all still talented enough to make it look realistic (well except Jigsaw - he's a step behind the rest, but dammit he tries!)
I love that match! I don't know, I thought Jigsaw did a fine enough job keeping up but I haven't watched it in a while. Maybe tonight.
I know there's probably a huge asterisk on it but I think John Cena vs. The Fiend in the Firefly Fun House gets consideration if your barometer is "did this match accomplish what it set out to." The total deconstruction of Cena's character telling his history with little nods to personal life (Bray's "you can look, but you can't touch) and how he's been perceived by the company vs. how the fans see him and acknowledging that... Cena's really been kind of a bad guy. As far as cinematic matches go, it really did the best with the format and it was the full potential of The Fiend character realized.
I rewatched Misawa vs. Kawada 6/3/94 last year and it really is a masterclass. How Kawada finally takes control around the middle section of the match but all the damage Misawa put on him slowly takes it toll. Even knowing the ending, it still hits me the same way each time I watch it. It's like if I had to show a non-wrestling fan ONE match, this would most likely be it.-
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I guess if MJF was Dynamite exclusive it would add a little to how Punk is treating that belt. Also, I'm hoping it was a deliberate statement that the X covered up the E on the belt? Still really not sure what to make of Punk since the comeback, like they'll have to address his belt at some point but I'm guessing Cole/MJF is gonna take us to All Out probably.
Laughed a little at "Malakai and Brody being banned from the arena" but Julia was fine. I know commentary addressed her having a manager's lisence which gives her a pretty nice resume at this point. Licensed manager, national champion cheerleader.... spooky witch..... Match was great too. A lot of times with ladder matches it feels like the spots are chaos for the sake of spectacle but it felt like these two were trying to incapacitate each other using the plunder in the match. Probably could have done without the handcuffs spot especially once the bolt clippers came out (like... did Buddy and Julia have them there as a plan C?) but glad Buddy to shine in a singles match.
Kaze Ni Nare! I get The King as at a point in his career where he's not winning as much but I love that anyone who faces him still comes out of it like they've been through a war. I liked Darby countering the choke counter like he learned after what happened with Joe.
Cardboard Jay White was incredible. I hope Gedo starts carrying one around too.
Was really surprised Max took the pin in that one, loved the post match drama too and Cole having the handshake moment with FTR. Cole's "do what you have to" before hugging it was a great moment too. Hoping they don't turn MJF face off all this since the big storyline is still his contract situation at the end of the year but he's gotten so good at milking the crowd with little stupid stuff like the double clothesline and t-shirts. Collision continues to rule!-
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AEW TV - 12/6 - 12/12/2023 - Always Bet On Black
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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If one is a available I will be ordering one.
Don't quite get putting Hangman in there as a red herring for The Devil. What I like about this storyline is how many enemies Max has made over the years but too many suspects makes it distracting. The fake out on the goon squad surrounding Joe was cool though.
Glad Switchblade is still alive points-wise, feels like Swerve is the favorite out of the Wednesday bracket though, this might be his tourney to win at this point.
Really great main event and nice payoff to Adam Co...plenad (can we just call him Edge) mercing Wayne. Not that Wayne's mom has a valid reason to side with Christian but to turn against Copeland. Unless she sees that Christian is taking a genuine interest in Wayne (which... he has...)
Only problem with these round robins is someone's gotta eat some falls and it's a shame Mark Briscoe has this. At least with 10 man fields in the G1 you have a match or two for someone to get a nice shine win but with the smaller 5 man groupings it's like... okay, you know who's out and who has a sliver of a chance left.