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Joe/Balor extreme rules or whatever would be fun. They definitely need a gimmick since it's the 3rd straight takeover they're main eventing. NXT doesn't run a lot of hardcore type matches so it feels pretty special when they do.
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Chimel had a good "Jaaaaahn Cena" too.
When they fired/didn't renew Roberts, I remember reports saying they were going "in a different direction." It seemed like that meant "young pretty women," but they've really homogenized how everyone sounds since then too. Didn't really hit me until I listened to Melissa Santos in LU, but no one in WWE as any unique little quirks anymore. Everyone gets introduced the same way from NXT all the way up the line (with the exception of name changes like Cass). I wonder if they have a voice coach or somebody that wrote a master list of intros with inflection cues and everything.
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10 hours ago, Johnny Sorrow said:
What I heard from Zellner on a podcast we were on was that they are totally into the Sasha winning at Summer Slam deal, and she's injury prone so that's why she's not on TV a lot.
*Realizes what could've been*
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2 hours ago, evilwaldo said:
They could cut another five or six and still have too many on the roster.
I'm just saying they usually don't cut more than they already have.
They have to keep some "end of the bench" guys for house show depth and what not.
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The one thing you can't deny about Jose is that he is over. The gimmick as is has a pretty low ceiling, but it's always good to have wrestlers that are over up and down the card. Even if he becomes another Ty Dillinger, that's still a worthwhile role.
Even though I find the Drifter boring personally, I don't object to his use as a JTTS. If the crowd cares about the jobber, they care more about the guy who's beating him, which is always a good thing.
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2 hours ago, Technico Support said:
It's amazing that WWE booking and overexposure have gotten so bad that the best way to book someone as a top contender is to keep them off TV. That is some next level, outside the box shit there. They actually realize their TV gets nobody over. Holy fucking shit.
That approach worked really well for Brock for a couple years, I guess.
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Hard to imagine there's too many more cuts in store (except Adam Rose). They got rid of what, 7 or 8 people last week? That's pretty standard.
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Charlotte could be doing everything she's doing now without the belt. By keeping the belt on her, they're not only losing a chance to showcase someone as the new champ, but also a chance to showcase someone as the next challenger after the obligatory rematch. It's just a waste of a spot when airtime for the women inexplicably at a premium, and there's not any more value than Sasha taking the belt at Summer Slam than there would've been at Mania (especially with the brand new belt and Today Show appearance).
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1 hour ago, Hail Sabin said:
DVR for the May 18th episode talks about a match happening much earlier then I thought it would.
Are you talking about Gift of the Gods or something else? Striker mentioned the GotG match during the triple threat.
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It's funny because from the start of the revolution right up to Mania, they did a great job booking her strong without the title. She won 90% of her matches, and only lost by cheating or her tag partner taking the fall. Guess they don't want to do that anymore?
Looking back, they really screwed the pooch by not having Sasha win at Mania. It's thrown everything completely out of whack. Charlotte got her moment by ending Nikki's reign and held the belt for a good 6 months, Mania was the perfect time to give someone else in the division some shine. Even though Charlotte is very "new generation," she's somehow manages to feel "last generation." It's probably Ric being the center of her angles and feuding with the definitively last-generation Nattie, but the crazy thing is that would've been a perfect non-title feud to really add depth to the division while Sasha was feuding with whoever.
One of the reasons the NXT women's division has been great because the long-term pacing is spot on. Everyone wins and loses the belt at the right moment. It was definitely time for Charlotte to drop the strap at Mania. She already reached her peak value for her first run, and now she's getting diminishing returns at best while the rest of the division is losing value.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who was scratching my head at "death box." It was like some bizarro WWE style term that was designed to sound less family friendly than what it actually was.
Anyway, the casket match was really good. Definitely more along the lines of what I expected from these two. I was also pleasantly surprised by Cuerno's involvement. Poor Mil is going the Taker route of having a specialty match that he never wins.
Havoc/Ivelisse vs. Mundo/Taya should be a fun program.
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Alexa really needs to stop doing that Undertaker choke.
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On 5/9/2016 at 6:35 PM, tbarrie said:
Wait, in what era would Riley have been a big star?
I doubt he could've ever been a star, but he could've lived up to his midcard potential in the early 90s maybe.
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Hopefully Dana's debut is a way to get Sasha back on tv again as Becky's partner.
Decent enough show. The distraction finishes were a bit excessive this week, but the overall direction of the show is so much better than it's been for the last couple of years. The Roman/AJ feud is really good. It's amazing how much better Roman looks when they book him to his strengths.
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I don't know if Cena has a proper comp from the attitude era, but I think the closest fit is actually Taker. Stand-alone guy that succeeded through sheer force of will and a loyalty and dedication to the business that's nearly unmatched. Also supremely talented and charismatic, but his combination of work ethic and attitude are what really set him apart.
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The Hawaii show is Bash at the Beach, and it looks like they wanna try to top Takeover Dallas for show of the year. If anyone from WWE is reading this and is looking for more Japanese star crossover one-off matches, might I suggest Asuka vs. Sasha.
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5 hours ago, madsplash said:
Cena also had the Money In The Bank match with Punk, Extreme Rules against Lesnar, and the series with Owens. I really can't think of any Austin matches I'd put above those or the aforementioned Umaga and Bryan ones.
The Rock matches at Mania (17 and 19)? The 3 stages of hell with HHH?
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I'd say Austin was better personally, but when you're comparing two elite guys like that, it's pretty much all gonna come down to personal taste.
Still, does Cena really have a match better than Austin vs. Bret at WM 13? And I'd put Austin in 2001 against any year for Cena (07 probably being his best).
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The one good thing Cameron did in her entire tenure is what got her canned.
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Those 04 SD-only ppvs were dire. That GAB show you mentioned and Armageddon are both among the worst shows of the decade for WWE. JBL's reign looks better in retrospect, but it took forever to click. You just had him and Taker in a stalemate at the top. The midcard had Cena, Eddie, and Angle, but they were all being kept apart until Mania season which led them feuding with guys like Show, Dupree, and Luther Reigns. Just terrible tv all around.
I didn't mind Batista going to SD because he would've been overshadowed by Cena on Raw. The split let them appear to be mostly equal for a while.
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The funny thing is Riley didn't even have the look the last couple of years. Unless the new look is "poor man's HHH with extra bacne."
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I remember 2004 being pretty good for Raw. HHH was finally healthy and took as much of a backseat as he ever did in the 2000s. Orton took a big step forward. Evolution was actually clicking as a stable with some solid 6-mans. You had an interesting mix of solid to good vets like Benoit, Jericho, Regal, and Shawn mixed with younger guys like Edge, Christian, and Shelton. Kane was at the apex of his career and was constantly in hilarious angles that were played completely straight. Trish also started her fun heel run during this stretch.
It started to go to shit when they botched Orton's face turn, but Mania to Summer Slam was pretty good I think. Probably the only time during the hard split where Raw was fun and SD was garbage.
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It sounds like it's supposed to be a tag team casket match with Mil and Matanza doing most of the work and then there's a convenient way to progress Catrina's story by shoving her in an extra casket that wouldn't normally be there.
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47 minutes ago, Greggulator said:
Also: Is Miz a HOF guy? He's a friggin' miracle worker.
WWE HOF? Easily if he stays on good terms with the company. He'll be one of those Godfather-esque mid-week reveals before Mania 51, and you'll be like "Oh shit, The Miz. I remember when he was the host of Smackdown during the first brand split."
Also Bo Dallas isn't going anywhere unless he wants to with those family connections.
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Michael Buffer has a great voice, but you can tell he didn't know shit about wrestling. Also whoever wrote his cue cards was terrible too. If he had to read special rules or stipulations it was always super awkward like English wasn't his first language or something. I guess if he wrote his own cards, he was really terrible.
On the good side, nothing beats Howard Finkel introducing the Undertaker or declaring a NEEEEEEWWWWW World Wrestling Federation champion.