piranesi
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gjuy,s I'm stone and I'm never really liked CM Punk but is there any chance that he actually did fake this injury as a way to not "work" for this company?
I'm just still waiting for one person to do something different than "He's gone. So he's not there. He's gone."
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"He's gone. So he's not there. He's gone."
- Netflix CCO ten years from now on their new Epstein Island studio they got the land for a bargain price.
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1 hour ago, Greggulator said:
This is a civil suit. Nobody is going to jail.
If we lived in a slightly more sane society than this one, (not totally sane, just slightly more than this one) those two men would already be locked in a pen inside a missile silo where they will end their days.
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"cowards and bootlickers."
- a guy who maybe at least is faking an injury to take their money without doing anything of value for them (a guy can fantasy book, right?)
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4 hours ago, Greggulator said:
That's essentially what Enron did (albeit more complicated and for a lot more money.)
I guess the big question is this. Even Enron wasn't too big to take down 20 years ago. But that was before the landscape was dotted with billionaires each owning their own media outlets, political parties, and apparently judges.
I wonder if that's changed today so much that even this stupid cage fighting company is too big to take down today.
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Ted Turner never should have gotten more ambitious than Bill Tush doing the news.
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5 hours ago, Godfrey said:
Cody at the scrum, from 411
On how WWE can prevent something like the Vince McMahon situation from happening again: “ if you’re in my position that it’s a time when, hey, we got 50,000 people out here, I want to give them something else from this weekend that isn’t a terrible situation, terrible news, and I think we were able to do that and obviously as more news comes out, we’ll be seeing it just like you do.”
I've always hated this logic, shifting the burden of a decision he has to make onto us makes him a hero for making the choice he was always going to make anyway.
Don't do we 50,000 innocent, needy morons any favors, Cody. We'll be fine without your story. And honestly you will be better off too. But just say the truth "MY whole life is invested in this."
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Can you even imagine the things he’s managed not to read, see, hear over the years as they were happening in the next office, backstage, in the hotel.
he’s just a doomed creature.
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I didn’t mean he quit as like a punishment. He had a chance to reach for some personal redemption if anything like that means anything to him. Just a missed opportunity to save himself is all.
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Im just saying it might help out a lot with his fragile heart if he relieved it of the weight of guilt of continuing to stay in the business.
I just want what’s best for him. And that would 100% be best for him. -
The correct answer to the question was “I’m announcing my retirement from this business and dedicating my very comfortably wea;thy remaining years to trying to atone for what I was a part of for the last 3 decades.”
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26 minutes ago, Greggulator said:
Look — We all know it’s a gross company. But keep in mind that what came out is a complaint. There is a lot of really damning stuff in there about Vince and Laurinaitis. But assuming you know the identity of anyone else who may have known is a really big reach.
The problem I see with this, at least for me is that I knew. I 100% knew, not names or dates. But deep down, I knew Vince was pimping women out probably against their will to talent, to promoters, to advertisers, whatever. I wouldn't doubt it was going on since Rock N Wrestling era at least. I knew. And did I know it also involved sadistic and humilating and torturous acts. Yeah. I probably knew. No one asked but if I was asked I would have to say "Yeah, I knew."
Maybe I have a darker mind than most. SHit I knew about Moolah for decades but I was like "Well that was the 1930s. You could buy women at the corner store then!"
I knew about Snuka's girllfriend. It's not like dozens of people haven't been chased out of that company by horrific abuse and then attacked by the company for leaving. It's not like the product itself didn't go past "a sketch" to real world humiliation of real people and train us all to chant along "Show your tits!" They knew. I knew. Ther Torch guys knew. The Observer guys knew.
Seeing the details of one case spelled out clincally made it hit so hard that all of that shakes out of the tree and now you see everything (or I see everythign I had been letting slide. Because it was an addictive product and I'm not a great person. But now that it's all there in one big pile, I just hate it all. I hate it for what it convinced me to ignore or to say "hey, they knew what they were getting into. They want to be famous, this is the only way."
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3 minutes ago, piranesi said:
This part is tough. I don't think anyone expects anyone to make their kids go cold turkey while really not wanting to explain why. Maybe a slow process to let them do what I never did and "outgrow" it naturally works better.
Something tells me that some of our kids might thank us in a few years if we slowly steer them away from a lifetime obsession with this particular form of entertainment.
That said I have no help on what might work. "Hey, kids, you know what's way more fun than watching wrestling? Japanese Math Rock!"
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6 minutes ago, Log said:
Little man has his heart set on watching tonight and I don’t feel like getting into reasons why he shouldn’t. I don’t know how much I’ll be watching, but I can tell you I’d lose my shit if Brock did come out and got even a decent ovation. So, I’m hoping this is true. I’m hoping there’s also an announcement soon of no more Brock in WWE ever.
This part is tough. I don't think anyone expects anyone to make their kids go cold turkey while really not wanting to explain why. Maybe a slow process to let them do what I never did and "outgrow" it naturally works better.
Something tells me that some of our kids might thank us in a few years if we slowly steer them away from a lifetime obsession with this particular form of entertainment.
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1 minute ago, Log said:
Is that quote real? Thats some serious bullshit if so.
Little man has his heart set on watching tonight and I don’t feel like getting into reasons why he shouldn’t. I don’t know how much I’ll be watching, but I can tell you I’d lose my shit if Brock did come out and got even a decent ovation. So, I’m hoping this is true. I’m hoping there’s also an announcement soon of no more Brock in WWE ever.
Oh it's real. I don't know if we're allowed to say the names of litigious wrestling journalists but Dave S. is one of the ones that has made the most $$$$$ off of it than anyone else in that business. BTW It then ends with this:
QuoteSo as you sit down to watch the Rumble tonight, do it in clear conscience and have a great time. The cloud has lifted.
To quote the end of Nash’s song, now that Vince is gone I feel like…
“It's gonna be a bright (bright), Bright (bright) sunshiny day!”
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Wrestling journalism:
Quote"Vince is gone. Any guilt you felt about supporting or enjoying the product has gone with him.
Any new potential sordid chapter in his lurid story? Not WWE or our problem, it’s all his."
An AI bot trained on WWE press releases couldn't have written it better Dave S.
Weirdly I still feel like absolute shit.
But also please subscribe to elite for more wrestling news!
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3 minutes ago, Infinit said:
I just found out that they're doing a Law & Order Toronto: Criminal Intent which starts airing in late February. Are they showing this in the US too?
Da Vinci's reboot.
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4 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:
Maneuver. Especially considering all the real-life maneuvers (and "maneuvers") he's performed over the years.
So far Facebook has presented me, without my consent:
1. A photo from a wrestling page of the Bloodline laughing at someone, presumably female, tied to a ringpost covered in what appears to be shit, with "Vince", "Johnny Ace", the name of the victim, etc. typed out and imprinted over the different people in the photo. I don't know the context of the photo. It doesn't look like a photoshop.
2. Somebody's drawing of Errol Flynn Mustache Vince grinning at a row of differently sized and shaped dildos on a table before him. Somebody put some time in on this one.
So, right when wrestling reminds you it's partially produced by sociopaths, the fanbase pipes up and yells "WE ARE TOO!" right in your face.
We have fully acclimated to the cruelty of our betters and revel in it for entertainment. These are the same people stamping a signature on denied insurance claims and putting them on the pile. The same people writing press releases for Nestle. all the way down to the same people calling single mothers to scream about the money they owe someone every night of their lives. The same people who get mad when they see a kid in school with a free lunch.
We're baked into the system even when we're home alone. They rely on everyone from the top down just doing the job and moving on. They took our hearts and souls because those were not monetizable and left us with just the jerky.
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19 minutes ago, jaedmc said:
I mean I get it with Slim Jim hopping back on. They probably have a very surface level understanding of - "According to the internet, that guy is the bad guy right? Make him gone and we're good." It's a low bar to jump over, but at least they were willing to do it. The rest of us are, understandably, like that It's Always Sunny gif of Charlie and the Conspiracy Board, "Yelling you don't know how deep this runs Slim Jim!"
I'm glad Vince is being taken out. I can't overlook the small victories.
But, like many of you, I need a little more. But that will have to come from someone else, and it's not some company who was just trying to get their product in front of some eyeballs. It needs to be a human being, and I know there's one somewhere in that fucking shit hole, and I just wish they'd say any thing.
It's frustrating. I feel like at one point in history people would have. But since maybe 1980 or so we have had three generations just swamped with the propoganda that "business" has nothing to do with morality or humanity. It's frankly more illegal or will lead to your justifiable firing to do the "right" thing in almost any situation because "the right thing" would violate your fiduciary legal obligation to maximize growth for your stockholders.
People have gotten so good at thinking like that, and so much of those decisions is filtered through just paperwork...no people, just papers, numbers. People who are fucked over by other people pulling levers at other companies will, without even a thought of dissonance, pull levers on other people because "that's the job." and to question that apparently makes you insane. Because those business rules overrule everything else. Why? Because it's somehow ordained by some God somewhere that anything else is a violation of business logic.
So it's not even a hard choice. They make it sound so tempting "your professional obligations...be rational about this...real jobs are at stake. that's real jobs...those rapes that's moralist abstractions...but these spreaadsheets aren't going to balance themselves!!!!!"
So of course everyone nods their head. To do anything else would mark you as obviously insane. So march on, Slim Jim soldiers. March on WWE SUPESTARS! You're the real heroes!!!!!!
Getty images of SLim Jims being manufactured.
I think there was a movie about this. It was called Drag me to Hell. It was about some low level bank employee that got what she earned and how in the end no one at the bank cared and no one else cared that she did "the job right."
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2 hours ago, jaedmc said:
They've all made their choice. It was the expected one. A little window dressing and back to "doin the job."
But I'm glad this unfortunate and obviously isolated event had the silver lining of providing a small PR benefit (but without any eventual expensive "changes") to our proudest human meat jerky corporation. We at Slim Jim human meat products urge you all to sit back and enjoy your Wrestlemania moment...and hope and pray that another rich guy with ad dollars to spend doesn't decide to make a Wrestlemania moment with you! (but that's not our business. Our business is business and anything else would be crazy).
They made the smart play. That is all they are legally, and apparently morally or rationally allowed or expected to do. Clearly there was no other choice...for the stockholders...The system remains in the control of our most rational and professional leaders. Remember the system has not failed us. The fact that we eventually made this one evil man...um....retire? is proof that the system is operating as it should. Rape first...maybe retire in a few decades with millions and millions of dollars and no other consequences at all. that's just good business practice.
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I don’t know I feel like if you asked me ten tears ago if Vince was doing something like this to someone I would be like “I figured.” And I’ve never been within a mile of the guy. And there’s almost no way this a sudden urge and idea he got in 2021. He’s been doing things Like this for as long as he’s had the ability to probably. And he’s not a subtle guy. And he clearly saw it as a way to deal/coerce/tempt people, one of whom was head of personnel for decades.
There’s just no way to stay and be clean of this
‘stay tuned to Netflix for a moving tribute to the great jimmy Snuka
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He'll always be welcome in Saudi Arabia. Maybe they'll fund a biopic of him.
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1 minute ago, John from Cincinnati said:
We don’t know what they were hearing behind the scenes. And maybe from people bigger than sponsors.
When they start tweeting various versions of "I hope the actions of one and only one evil man are not allowed to taint or destroy the legacy of the WWE Universe for all those we have inspired and empowered over the years." then we'll know what they were hearing behind the scenes...or at least what they were told to say.
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I still kind of wish he was left in a puddle by the workers. But that's just fantasy booking.
Fantasy booking is still legal.
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DVD/BR Collector Thread for the Physical Media Enthusiasts
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Oh my god. I watched this without reading anything and thought "wow, this must be one of Jess Franco's most bizarre and shoddily made early 1970s movies made with 1950s cameras" and then I looked down and saw 1993??????????
The sheer brilliance of that final shot. The absurdity of the idea and the perfection of its execution in the most awe-inspiring way possible. That may define cinema for me for the rest of my life.
I never preorder things because I'm not made of money and so I won't preorder this but in I will absolutely pay 50% of MSRP for it in 6 months.