Petey
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I haven't watched the most recent ECW yet... is it 2013 Joey Style cutting in or was the cut in from 1998?
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I only watched the Pilot and liked it enough. I have the second episode on my DVR so I'll probably watch that tonight since the third episode is about to air. I find the female lead to be unrealistically awkward, but I enjoy the premise enough and the male lead interesting enough to keep watching.
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YOU TAKE THAT SID INSULT BACK.
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Just wondering about Scott Casey's WWF career. Ever since I first saw the 2nd Survivor Series, he's struck me as an odd one, as I know nothing about him. Every other guy on PPVs of that era had some fleeting moment of fame, or at least cropped up on Colloseum Videos. This guy, I know nothing about. Did he have any minor feuds or wins worth noting?
I feel like Scott Casey took the place of S.D. Jones where he was a job guy but a job guy with a name and always looked just good enough to where some people thought he had a chance of winning matches.
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I actually like Ziggler's theme.
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The ending of the '97 Nitro is horrible. It's amazing that the closer and closer we get to the Hogan-Sting match the shittier the booking gets. I used to think that the booking fell apart at Starrcade but the cracks are already clearly showing.Hogan doing THREE in ring promos was fucking absurd too. The NWO by this point is such a runaway train of awfulness that I wonder if it wouldn't have just been better to have the 3rd guy be someone else and have it run it's course in a quicker manner instead of existing from 96 to the end and helping kill the company.Also, Zybysko is the shittiest announcer ever. He's completely incapable of putting someone other than himself over.
Yeah the booking really started to get bad in the fall of '97. Pretty much from when Hogan beat Luger at Road Wild is when things started to get bad with nothing but nWo wankfests and constant heels going over. It was just depressing to watch. Outside of Sting (and DDP to an extent), it felt like there were no babyfaces capable of doing anything against the nWo.
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It's surreal to think back to when York and Joey Matthews were "starting out" in the Maryland indies in 1998 and now he's "almost finished."
Christ I feel old, and I'm only 34.
I know that feel. I remember when AJ Styles and Daniel Bryan Danielson were just "starting out"... and now AJ is 36 and DBry is 32. Chris Daniels is 43! I am old.
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A friend of mine isn't a wrestling fan but was blown away when I told her that the results were predetermined. She didn't understand why they had championships and stuff if it didn't mean anything. She was in college when I told her this. She went through like 18 years of her life thinking wrestling was 100% real.
When I worked at GameStop (circa 2005-2009) there was this one customer who would come in and chat about wrestling with me. He always seemed a little "off" but nothing super noteworthy. It was weird though because he would throw around insider terms but also believed that a lot of the angles/injuries were legitimate.
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My hope is that it ends with Dexter waking up in prison and Doakes is looking over him and every character over the last few years has been a figment of his imagination during the coma he suffered when Doakes beat the shit out of him and arrested him six years ago.
Only if Doakes says, "SURPRISE MOTHAFUCKA" when Dexter wakes up.
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Saw this posted on another site and thought it could be a fun discussion here.
First thing's first... what is kayfabe? Can one still believe in kayfabe but know the matches are predetermined? Or does kayfabe only exist for people who don't know the show is scripted?
And what was the moment that you smartened up and said, "okay... this definitely isn't real"? Or was it stumbling across interweb stuffs that exposed the biz for you?
I've been watching the professional wrestling since I was a young pup. My parents always told me it wasn't real and everyone performing the maneuvers were professionals and didn't actually hurt their opponents (tell that to Road Warriors or Vader opponents)... probably so that I wouldn't decide to drop the leg on some kid in school that I didn't like. I didn't get the internet until I was 10 (1997) and at first I didn't stumble across anything... until Halloween Havoc '97. My dad used to watch rasslin' with me and he worked with a guy who also watched with his son (the kid was 2 or 3 years older than me) and the 4 of us got together to watch HH '97. It was on that night that kayfabe died once and for all for me. See, this kid told me that all the matches were pre-determined and that the results were online before the events would take place. Now, that wasn't 100% accurate because he told me this applied for PPV's but there was no reddit guy back in 1997 but the damage was done. Wrestling was staged and now there was physical proof. This news led to me searching the World Wide Web for upcoming results which then led me to looking for breaking news about what was gonna happen and all that. Afterwards I really started noticing patterns like, "oh this guy isn't gonna lose because it's clear the company is building him up" or "this result won't stick". Stuff like that.
That freggin' kid. Ruined Christmas.
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My question is why Vince & co believed Hogan would follow through (and put Bret over) in the first place.They should have known better. Or at least hedged their bets.
He did put over Warrior. Maybe Vince & co figured Hogan only wanted one last run and wouldn't have had an issue putting Bret over. It seems silly in hindsight but I can almost understand their rationale, especially since it was something that they really wanted to happen and were probably trying to convince themselves that it'd occur.
That said, I'm not sure Hogan passing the torch would have worked as well as everyone assumes. I know one of the theories why Warrior wasn't successful on top was because people resented him for beating Hogan. The risk was there for people to possibly resent Bret for the same reason. Obviously Hogan wasn't as beloved by the fans in 1993 as he was in 1990 but it was still a possibility.
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And for the second part, I'm pretty sure Hogan beating Yoko was Hogan throwing his weight around. I believe he kind of forced Vince's hand into allowing him to win the title. IIRC, he was threatening to not work the tag match unless he also won the belt. I think those events occurred either right before WrestleMania 9 or at the event itself. I could be wrong on some of the details but big picture, to my knowledge it was definitely Hogan throwing his weight around.
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I always thought the Big Wiggle was a babyface thing.
Scott Hall was way off on 1999 being his year. Is he still doing better under DDP's watch? I saw pictures of him from not that long ago and he definitely looked improved.
As for Bisch not doing the job until Nitro, it's because Bischoff was ten years too soon. He valued TV ratings in the same way that WWE does today and that's why he'd rather get his rear end kicked on Nitro as opposed to Starrcade... (only kindasrs)
It's amazing how fast the ratings started going down for WCW. In January '99, they drew a 4.9, 5.0 , 4.4 and a 5.0. By May it was a 3.5, 3.3, 3.8 and 3.3. And just kept going down from there.
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The 3/15/99 Raw features one of the worst promos in wrestling history via Tori. She made Sable look like Ric Flair. I'm not kidding. It was that awful.
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I also think Vogel is the killer but I certainly hope not for the reasons listed above.
I hope it's Vince, just to hear him yell "IT'S ME DEXTER! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG"
But I'm sure Dexter will realize that like EVA said above, Harry's code has been the big bad in his life and that he'll convinces himself that if he kills Vogel, it'll allow him to escape Harry's code.
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Buff Bagwell ruled. Don't hate.
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SummerSlam is going to be the first non-WrestleMania WWE/F pay-per-view that I've ordered since InVasion. Daniel Bryan=buyrates
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I'm unfamiliar with the whole "Al Snow's terrible at behind the scenes stuff" aside from that awful Guest Booker DVD he did... so what has he done that makes him so terrible?
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Prowrestling.net is reporting D'Lo is gone and Bruce Prichard may be on the way out.
How reliable is Prowrestling.net? And I wonder if Bruce Prichard is on the way out because he forgot to renew his contact.
Combining the head of talent relations and head of creative in the first place was dumb. Maybe promote Al Snow to for talent relations and get someone completely different for head of creative. At this point, who's out there? If Spike is looking at the ratings, and seeing what they were two years ago, they might ask for Russo back.
But would Russo want back? I watched one of those YouShoot's he did post-TNA and he seemed content with his life outside of wrestling.
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895. "Then, in a segment that was mind blowing, Booker T was out there talking about his favorite moment of himself on Raw. He said the match with Buff Bagwell. The played clips of Scott Hudson announcing (in his first and last Raw appearance) that match in Tacoma that was so bad and received even worse that Vince did a 180 the next day, canceling every single plan he’d made and that poor Live Events department had to completely retool the entire schedule for the next few months and change all advertising. I’ll bet there was never a match in history, that cost more people their jobs in the industry because no match ever single-handedly changed the business like that one." - (WON 2012-06-18)
So now with the benefit of hindsight, do we think Vince made the right decision here in cancelling the WWF version of WCW or do we think this was a knee-jerk reaction and Vince should have carried on with the original plans?
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I agree. I have no issue with the UFC coverage and I'm a casual UFC fan at best. I just don't think that if there were less MMA coverage it'd lead to more non-WWE/TNA coverage. I think it's more likely there'd be smaller content/less amount of issues than more coverage devoted to Japan, Mexico or somewhere else.
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I've enjoyed almost all of ROH's new talent. Matt Taven is probably the best of the new crop, unless you count ACH. I really think Taven is the next Marty Jannetty. Tadarius Thomas is really unique and does stuff that has never been done before in wrestling and C&C are a fun highflying team. Of course, we can't forget Silas Young who is the nephew of Stan Hansen and is really awesome.
New talent is a good thing. You can never have enough of it and it never hurts to try and push new faces. ROH needs to worry about their future and by getting a new bunch of guys, they are ready. NJPW is what it is today because of new talent.
I don't deny that this is true, but I think the thing is that a lot of old ROH fans feel that the new talent is inferior to the talent under the original regime. And another thing, when ROH would lose talent it seemed like it would be replenished with other internet darlings who a lot of the fans were already familiar with from different companies. It's not ROH's fault that there doesn't seem to be as many indy darlings as there was in the beginning of the century, but I think that's where the gripe stems from. When ROH lost AJ, Daniels, Red and a couple of others, they were replaced by Generation Next. When ROH lost that crop+Joe and Homicide, they were replaced by guys like Steen, Generico and some other Chikara folk, the key being that the replacements were all names in other independents and it was exciting to finally see those guys in ROH. That just doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
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I don't want this to sound condescending, but maybe one of the reasons UFC gets so much more coverage than the Japanese wrestling promotions or other MMA companies is because Dave has more access to UFC stuff and is able to write more fulfilling pieces on UFC than the others. I haven't subscribed to the WON since 2007 or 2008 but really, what is there to report on with the Japanese promotions other than show recaps? I can't imagine he has the same inside/backstage info with those compared to WWE, TNA or UFC. I get that it's frustrating for those who don't care about MMA and feel it's taking up space that could be better used for other wrestling promotions, but maybe Dave really just doesn't have anything else to report.
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Dust Blue is great. Just have to fix those buttons that you hit in order to go to the first new post in a previously viewed thread. The white background on each individual button is an eyesore. The rest seems to be spectacular.
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TNA Destination X
in FEDS JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK
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I can't believe Mick Foley won the TNA Title. Wow.