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    2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread

    in BOXING & MMA

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    17 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    I don't mind PBC and find some of the fights to be really fun (I mean that's not hard when you have boxing on every goddamn channel), but they are swimming in circles. All those dates that guy posted in the Steve Kim retweet along with every date PBC has had for their broadcasts are time buys. They've blown through an incredible amount of money with very little to show for. They've tried to make folks like Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, Adrien Broner, Shawn Porter, Deontay Wilder, and several others bonafide network TV stars so they can then transition to PPV. However, it just ain't happening for all the reasons I've explained since their inception.

    On the UFC thing, everything depends on what the landscape looks like when UFC's contract with Fox ends. They want a ton of money, but it won't matter until whoever is interested can look at the outlook of the company. Being hot in 2016 doesn't mean shit if you're not hot whenever that contract ends. That's why it is important for the UFC to at least keep Fox cards interesting on par with high level Fight Night cards and/or mid-tier PPVs. The Fox shows haven't grown any in terms of ratings, but they have not had any type of steep decline. I think the one thing the current Fox deal has an advantage in is that there isn't programming that could outrank UFC on a couple channels and also you can establish that programming might air on any of those channels. I think the thing with ESPN is that one side might demand more shows on the mothership channel, which could reduce the chances of other shows being picked up if they're not quality and could end up moving a lot more content to Fight Pass. That's why Fight Pass was started in the first place when Fox turned some cards down. ESPN may be way more picky. Moreover, ESPN and ESPN2 might not want to abandon a lot of their programming now (especially the college stuff on Saturdays which goes on for the entire day on both coasts). If you thought some of the times and days for UFC cards on FS1 were funky, wait until they get on ESPN. 

    I think the UFC is an asset they want to have, but are they willing sacrifice big time college games potentially and major, major advertising money for a hot, niche sport whose only similar competition they destroy in advertising buys is WWE (a company that only says it is a sport when it's advantageous to say that)? It would be crazy long-term.

    Kimbo death might play a role in how Viacom react to Bellator. Maybe they will try to get UFC back.

    And don't forget the new owners................

    The Ariel Helwani Dramedy of Errors/Saga of Sympathy Thread

    in BOXING & MMA

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    1 hour ago, muhammedboehm said:

    Not sure if this goes here or the non event page but Ariel Helwin is reporting that Zuff/UFC kicked him out and took his credentials for 'braking' the Brock news. 

    Not important news to me. Ariel always had controversy. 

    As for the Ufc, they don't give a f as you can see with the Conor McGregor situation. They do what they like.

    2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread

    in BOXING & MMA

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    This caught my eye about one of the Wanda Group properties on their main website

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    Wanda Group Holdings' Infront Sports & Media is one of the largest sports media production and broadcasting companies in the world. The company owns broadcasting rights for 4,000 event days delivered per year, with a daily average transmission of more than 10 events (including 20 world championship events) covering 25 sporting events. It is ranked first globally in both football and winter sports.

    Infront has maintained long-term partnerships with seven top Winter Olympics sports organizations.

    Its football partnerships span international (such as FIFA), national (such as the German Football Association and the Italian Football Federation), league matches (such as Italian Serie A), clubs (such as AC Milan) and other levels.

    In terms of summer sports, Infront has abundant rights resources which include the market and media rights for China Basketball Association (CBA).

     

    I wonder if the other bidders have a sports background?

    2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread

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    Posted

    China winning right now. Might be great news for the fighters because the current regime enforcing the uniform rules not Reebok. Unless I am wrong but I don't think that's in the reebok contract with the UFC.

    This is actually an old rumor pick up by ESPN. I am sure Ferttitas always entertain offers throughout the years. Why not

    2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread

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    Meltzer said Conor and Lorenzo had a big blowup way before the Conor tweet. Dana is literally not involved in the decision.

    Meltzer claimed the $400 million is wayyyyy off and more like $100 million.

    Now I know why Ufc is not sweating. Especially if somehow they can get Jones vs DC.

    2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread

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    Posted

    Ufc might actually benefit from Conor off 200. 200 will do big numbers regardless, maybe not record breaking numbers but I can see 800k-1 million. Add Conor return to any Ufc ppv between 201-204 and you guaranteed another million buys. And then Ufc 205 aka MSG will be another million plus maybe two million if they do Rousey vs Holms. 

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