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  1. 2 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said:

    This is the terrible and undeniable legacy of RF. The phrase "post-ECW' doesn't come up enough in wrestling criticism, and it doesn't just mean a certain style of in-ring product (ROH as a pipeline to WWE for workrate gods under 5'10", CZW as a producer of bloody counter-culture avant-garbage happening at the 2900, etc.). It means geography, and distribution, and brand awareness, and all the ways those three terms came to interact with each other in the ways they did in a mainstream-internet, pre-streaming, pre-social media market.

    I remember the most-downloaded wrestling video on Kazaa at one point was RF's fancam of the Xavier vs. Low Ki vs. Homicide 3-way from 2001 JAPW

    I'm sure that doesn't hold up at all, but everyone was desperate for THE NEXT ECW

    edit: hey look what I found

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2byoy

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  2. 22 minutes ago, Craig H said:

    I can't even remember the first CZW thing I saw, but I remember my reaction was, "what the fuck is this bullshit?" It looked like some JCW crap. The most low rent looking video production and absolute garbage in the ring. So that's my first and lasting impression of them and it's what made me not even give a shit about the ROH vs CZW stuff until Naylor started recapping the shows he went to on here. My reaction was, so CZW has good wrestling, what did I watch then? And then I see some of the CZW wrestlers involved on some RealPlayer clip or something and even then I thought they looked janky as fuck.

    It blows my mind that so many top wrestlers came through CZW. To me, back then, I would have thought it was only a notch above XPW.

    Watching back Punk's initial tour of the east coast indies in 2002 is a trip - Zandig stopped booking him in CZW because of the match with Justice Pain, and then 3PW stopped booking him because Meanie wanted him to not work for Feinstein and he said no

    His career almost went much differently and who knows if/when he would have got to ROH

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  3. New Japanese Women’s Wrestling Promotion Reportedly in the Works for September Launch

    According to a report by PWInsider, there are said to be plans in the works to launch an all-new women’s wrestling promotion in the US that will feature all Japanese-based wrestling talents. The promotion will reportedly be a completely new promotion using women from existing Japanese promotes and run their own events in the United States.

    Additionally, the prospective promotion wants to set itself apart from competitors with high production values and doing more than showcasing the product in the ring to give the show a different “atmosphere” for its events. The goal would be to make the events feel like authentic Joshi wrestling and also raise the show’s profile to larger audiences outside the typical pro wrestling audience. The group behind the promotion is reportedly investing significant resources and said to be enlisting notable names across entertainment, media, wrestling, and fashion businesses for their front office.

    PWInsider also notes the the prospective promotion has already booked a date in New York City in September for its debut event.

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  4. 15 minutes ago, The Natural said:

    I liked that subversion in the third match.

    Looking at Cagematch, Punk had just worked a 59-minute match with Chris Hero in IWA-MS a week before his third match with Joe, so I wonder if he decided on a shorter match with Joe to not take shine off the Hero match

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  5. On 7/5/2023 at 8:53 AM, The Natural said:

    All about Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk for me this week. Can't wait for that one. There's a 20 minute time limit. I'm hoping the rematch goes longer. Love the Joe/Punk 2004 trilogy. Gave all three *****. For a while I thought the second was the best but it's the third now:

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    No time limit as the first two went 60 minutes so think it's going even longer but it lasts 33 minutes subverting expectations.

    Punk bleeding so it wasn't going to last as long.

    Referee is going to ring the bell as Joe has Punk in the rear naked choke but Ricky Steamboat sees Punk's twitching fingers and tells the referee.

    Joe desperate cheats using the ropes on a roll up getting "Fuck you, Joe!" chants.

    Yeah, it's the best one.

    I just rewatched all 3 - I'd call it ***** for the first, ****3/4 for the second, **** for the third. Last one had the Steamboat nonsense with the ring bell and was way too short for a heavily hyped "no time limit" match.

    Crowd was 50/50 for the first, 70/30 Punk for the second and 70/30 Joe for the third - the crowd not being behind Punk for the last match was a bummer.

    If their match this weekend was part of the first-round, I'd say they should do a 20-minute draw to preserve the "Punk never beat Joe" aspect of their rivalry. Like how Jerry Lynn always insisted (even in late TNA) that he should never go over RVD.

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  6. 1 hour ago, Casey said:

    Best of the Best was always an event that made CZW seem like a promotion that it wasn’t the other 364 days of the year (usually).

    Jody Fleisch vs. Jonny Storm still holds up extremely well

     

    56 minutes ago, Casey said:

    They always delivered a more consistent in-ring product than their contemporary (at that time) XPW did.

    XPW losing all its fans by the end of their Philly run gave us the novelty of a 5-star Jonny Storm vs. Juventud Guerrera match in front of 10 people

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  7. 53 minutes ago, TimLivingston said:

    I’m still peeved they aren’t playing up Joe/Punk more than they are. Legit one of the marquee matchups you have left for both guys and it’s on a Saturday night with a week build and nothing else behind it to promote. Should be treated as way more of a big deal than it is. 

    Quick look shows only their first ROH match is on the official YouTube channel

    I mean, bare minimum, throw all their matches on YouTube and put highlight packages on TV

    Going into it with an "everyone knows about Joe vs. Punk!" expectation is a horrible mistake

     

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  8. 1 minute ago, Log said:

    You have to figure that they must have some kind of plan for a London WM or they wouldn't have had Cena say anything.

    Yeah they're just trying to drum up support for a local welcome wagon, even though WWE doesn't realize "Dying cities desperately throwing tax breaks at a circus to come and save their town" is a United States thing

    If they're trying to eat AEW's lunch, I'd think running SummerSlam at Wembley next August and tying up the venue with an exclusivity deal to lock AEW out for a few years would make more sense

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  9. Flair was 45 and Steamboat was 41 when they resumed their feud in 1994 - their first match was 17 years prior, and their last match was 5 years prior

    Punk and Joe are both 44 now - their first match was 20 years prior, and their last match was 18 years prior

    Makes me sad Punk and Joe just missed each other in WWE - Joe jumping into the main event scene instead of lingering forever in NXT would have been fun

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  10. That's called captivating an audience

    My father absolutely hated wrestling, but I remember catching him watching Smackdown in 2005 for the Eddie-Rey promos

    I also remember having Savage-Warrior on TV when I was a kid and the non-fan ladies in the room started crying when Elizabeth ran in to save Randy

    If you're not watching wrestling for emotion, then I don't know what to tell ya - maybe MOVEZ~ and deathmatch wrestling hit people emotionally in a different way, but I'd have to imagine that's more like an addict getting an adrenaline fix as opposed to some deep emotional connection

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  11. 2 hours ago, The Natural said:

    I'm guessing All In was the other but it's cutting it real close for Bryan Danielson to make that show with his broken arm. Don't think he will in time.

    ZSJ vs. Nigel McGuinness would be a hell of a consolation prize

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  12. 2 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said:

    Exactly how true was the "Quackenbush wouldn't let the paramedics take his mask off" story? That always makes me kinda want to barf.

    Even after Lince stayed loyal to Quack after that, Quack still fired him a couple years later after Scott Hall wandered into a dressing room at the Florida indie he was working and filmed him with his mask off for Last Call with Scott Hall

    Scott was just going around asking dudes their names, and Lince shook his hand and said "I'm Lince Dorado" - Quack saw it on YouTube and freaked out

  13. 1 hour ago, Go2Sleep said:

    2. The presentation isn't different enough from his regular appearance. Finn Balor spends hours getting elaborate paint jobs to be the demon. Jericho smears a couple streaks on his face. Music is basically the same, no special entrance. Doesn't have a long history of winning or extreme stunts to give the fans a reason to expect something different than any other Jericho match.

    This was my problem with Joker Sting in TNA - cool look, good backstage promos, but once he got in front of the crowd it was the same old Sting match

  14. Mark Briscoe was 15 and Jay Briscoe was 16 when they debuted in 2000 - when they worked in Pennsylvania for CZW before they turned 18, they had to wear hoods as "The Midnight Outlawz"

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  15. 1 hour ago, Craig H said:

    Now I want this to be someone's gimmick. Where their confidence level during a match gets way too high and they're like, fuck yeah, I AM going to jump off this top rope, and then they, I don't know, climb down and jump off the bottom rope instead.

    Surely, this has to be a thing somewhere out in socal indy scene, right?

    https://www.facebook.com/TheNewWrestlingEra/videos/back-in-2016-when-tommaso-ciampa-led-the-pwg-crowd-to-sing-i-believe-i-can-fly-/1586241218167160

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