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20 hours ago, Ace said:
#1 - SAG doesn't exist in the UK. They have a different guild.
#2 - Pro wrestling isn't considered under SAG. If they were, Mick Foley would have medical insurance.
Whatever letters represent the idea of what I'm talking about doesn't change the fact the wrestlers are getting a crappy deal.
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1 hour ago, JohnnyJ said:
By your math even if a talent was getting $500 a weekend (doubtful), their entire net for the year would be $26k. WWE is paying them $20k for two days work. That's 80 percent of what they would typically get in a year.
Ole Anderson would give favors all day for that kind of money.
They also take away some of your abilities to make money while they want to maxamize what they think they can make off of you. I don't think the compensation they are getting for doing that is enough, given how limited the options out there are to make money in wrestling. Would $35,000 have killed the WWE? Not likely.
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15 hours ago, Happ Hazzard said:
Yeah but you have to work at Starbucks for 40 hours a week. They'll have a lot more days off with WWE. For the limited dates these guys are doing with WWE, 20 grand is good money. It means they can wrestle full-time.
Crappy hypothetical math time. Lets say these guys can make $500 a weekend. 500×52+20000=$46,000. Which isn't half bad for office work. Now, if the biggest wrestling company in the world is only offering 20k, are all these smaller places going to get him $500 or more every weekend? Doubtful. And what happens if you can't work due to injuries?
So even though they work for the WWE, they'd still probably do better working elsewhere, getting benefits for it, and wrestling on the side. Yes it's not the dream, but when you look closely at the dream, you really have to wonder about it. This company bought the two biggest stars in the world. One got the rocket push and the other is still in developmental, and the pushed guy is getting over a joke charater they just randomly hired. Oh and if you sneeze in front of the boss, well good bye dreams for life.
Being on their radar or under their control seems like an utterly arbitrary factor in success there. The current idea seems to be go out and prove you can draw so the WWE can offer you good money to waste your talents and have random guys get better chances than you.
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1 hour ago, Raziel403 said:
$20k for 2 days work with possibly more down the line, with only a couple promotions one can't work with. I'm failing to find an issue with this. You're acting like they can only work for WWE during that year.
Fine. I disagree. If you're going to restrict my ability to make money in any way, you better pay enough that it won't be a problem. Slightly more than poverty doesn't cover that to me.
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23 minutes ago, Sin Carne said:
Can I see your 9+ source?
https://www.ft.com/content/eb37c808-62db-11e5-a28b-50226830d644
First thing that popped up when I googled star bucks pay. Said 9.22.
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1 hour ago, mattdangerously said:
A $20K contract from a promotion that will be around long enough to pay the entire contract seems like a fair trade off for no contract working for company that may not even be around for very long.
I'm sure this is good money for many of these guys, but a one year contract with a giant corporation trying to make you a tv star shouldn't be slightly more than poverty wages levels. I mean, porn pays better for a year contracted talent.
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24 minutes ago, Sin Carne said:
£16000 is still going to be a huge amount of money to these guys. As Regal pointed out, they can all up their money now they're under the WWE banner. For some this is a bigger jump than others, but they're all happy about not having to worry about the tuna bill. Bet that.
I doubt you'd make £16000 working as a Barista at Starbucks unless you did a ton of overtime, and I don't think they get the same kind of education access here fwiw.
Math. 8.25×40×52= 17,160 plus benefits. And google says they make 9+ an hour, not 8.25.
How is that huge money, especially if a retail job pays better and offers more benefits? Yeah it's more than a hot dog and a coke to wrestle, but 17k is shit pay and it's rather insulting compared to what they would get being on any SAG show.
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20 grand...they only get 20 grand....what the fuck man. You can make better money and get multiple benefits, days off, even free education, getting a job at Starbucks. And they fuck you over on who you can work for....jesus christ this company sucks.
What's the poverty standard in the UK? I believe its $23,000 in the US.
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Now that Smackdown out drew Raw, does that mean HHH is finally going to work a different night of the week?
Booing the heel vs booing the booking. Such a perfect summary of the WWE not getting it.
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15 minutes ago, mattdangerously said:
How is Sandy Duncan looking these days ? Are we going to be able to get her into a Peter Pan costume so she can tell the WWE Universe to "clap if you believe"?
That needs to be Bo-lieved asap.
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4 hours ago, Mike Zeidler said:
I could've sent you the pdf for free
I know, but I saw a $500+ book for $100. I was in. Plus, I just can't read a book in pdf format. I need a physical. book. I go nuts even reading d&d books that way. Tried comic books and it just felt so wrong. Anyone else like this?
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To whoever sold me that Gary Hart book on ebay for $100...I think it's going to be money well spent.
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Pwspyware saying sale going down soon....with zero confirmation to back it up.
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So the way I'm following the Hardy thing is that it is viral, but people aren't watching TNA. What exactly does that mean?
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1 hour ago, NikoBaltimore said:
Jericho got simple things like a list and a scarf over. He's become highly entertaining and it's funny seeing him with Owens. I think it's hurting Owens though because he's doing more comedy and less killer prizefighter.
Miz has stepped it up in a huge way, and with an open platform on SDL he turned in one of the most memorable promos of the year. I absolutely love him and Maryse and look forward to what they do weekly. Plus it's cool to see a guy so damn driven from the start finally get appreciated for what's he's done recently.
But Matt Hardy? I'll put it like this. I met him twice, last time being soon after finishing ROH when he was sober and clear-headed. We had a great conversation about where his head was at then and how it is now and he seems like a genuinely nice guy. Since then I saw him and Jeff at local shows before, and while it was cool seeing them I never once felt compelled to get an autograph or picture with them. But now? Well, they're coming to MCW next month and I'm my wife and I are so damn tempted to pay $100 for a picture with the whole Hardy crew. TNA is kind of trying to get some money in Hardy merch, but it's Matt and Jeff who are raking in money hand over fist. And unless TNA gets a cut of that I guarantee next month they'll make a killing on autographs/pictures alone. If he does that at other indie shows then hot damn he's got it made. But as far as reinventions go Matt's head and shoulders above the rest.
I freely admit to pegging Matt as the next Marty a decade ago. The dude has raisen to be bigger than the brand he's on. That is amazing. It's a mini-Austin phenomenon, but who in the world would have thunk Matt Hardy of all people could do that.
He desperately needs a better platform or something to get what he's doing to be seen by more people.
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Is this Miz greatness doomed because he doesn't have someone as equally strong to bounce off of?
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1 hour ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said:
AJ will be just fine.
Hahahahahahahaha. Just wait til Vince gets bored.
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1 hour ago, Wyld Samurai said:
I have a feeling Big E could be that flagbearer if they gave him a shot in the spotlight. The crowd would pop harder than Peter North at a West Hollywood Co-Ed Bikini Wash.
I always wonder why they don't see it in him. He's a hoss who can talk and he's a minority to boot. Guys with less have been given more.
Let me guess, Kevin Dunn doesn't like him for some reason.
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19 hours ago, caley said:
So, in what universe is he not super popular?!
The television watching one.
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18 hours ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said:
I kinda wonder if anyone is capable of good work with Vince yammering in their ear.
Well since only one guy has excelled doing it, I'd wager it being a no for most humans who haven't worked for a bullish tyrant before.
10 hours ago, Casey said:As far as the Brock Lesnar/steroid talk - 1) Has it even been confirmed that it was steriods? and 2) Part-timers in WWE aren't included in the Wellness Policy.
If Brock is a part-timer, then how is everyone else an independent contractor? Doesn't one contradict the other?
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2 hours ago, Raziel403 said:
Some of us still believe in consequences for actions opposed to pittance and apathy.
2016 TNA General Thread
in FEDS JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK
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What are you smoking? TNA was Tits and Ass long before a wrestling company decided it was a good idea to try and play off the same name. The brand is dead. The brand has been dead or nearly non-existent outside of a tiny bubble, where it is primarily mocked. 10 years of no one giving a shit about it is a terrible reason to keep it. Even Blackwater knew to change their name after it became toxic. Keeping any of those names keeps that failure stench attached. Marketing 101 would say, rebrand.