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  1. Tough crowd (filled with guys that like androgynous tomboys with dude haircuts and manly, manly chiseled jaws), tough crowd...

    (Insert gif of Rodney Dangerfield loosening his tie here)

    But hey, you guys do you. I'll be here in the background, silently weeping for a bygone era when actresses actually looked feminine, and wondering why Bailey Jay looks more fem than many of the Hollywood starlets with the Jodie Foster/Angelina Jolie/Carla Delavigne "chiseled jaw" look that is so in fashion these days...

  2. Coming out of lurker mode to post some quotes regarding Ruby Rose as Batwoman. I did not write these, but found them interesting, and relevant.

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    I think the character is boring and the actress is ugly. However, it’s not really for me and that’s fine. Not everything has to be. I don’t bear Rose any ill will whatsoever. I hope she does well. Trust me, they will write her as a lesbian first, woman second, and crime fighter third. That’s all they know. Also, she’s not really a deep character to my knowledge. I’m hard pressed to think of a character that’s less fleshed out. She’s a lesbian Jewish Batman knockoff. Hell, Alfred is more interesting. Kite Man is more interesting. The interesting angle here is the SJW crap. Those people are absolutely insane. When WE complain (I mean comic readers/conservatives/people with respect towards the characters) we are man babies or racist or whatever. But this actress isn’t gay enough? Not Jewish enough? WTF? Who gives a crap? The guy who plays Darrel on Walking Dead isn’t a backwoods hillbilly in real life. Henry Cavill isn’t an Alien. Arnold is not actually a time traveling robot. This gets ridiculous fast.

     

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    This could be the toxic fandom to end comic book properties in film and television. These SJW groups have shown their cards and everyone can see what they are: a group of sad, despicable whiners who demand characters be played by themselves. I.e. blacks can only play black characters, gay gender fluid characters can only play gay characters, etc. I hope they bring the whole thing down just so they go away and don’t have anything to hate...

     

  3. 3 hours ago, OSJ said:

    Well, some interesting thoughts, please don't that I am being dismissive, but it's getting past my bedtime, one of the cats apparently thought that the appropriate way to celebrate our 34th anniversary was to climb all over us at 5:30AM...

    I haven't had much of a chance to watch Jim Jeffries on TV of late, bit he's always been pretty solidly left of center. Someone else I like a great deal is Russell Brand, who is generally courteous and respectful to all up until such a time as a person reveals that they are an asshole and then the gloves come off, but he's so capable of ripping someone a new and seemingly being so damned nice about it that only his target is going to be offended.

    As far as talk about movies, you are aware that there are places other than Hollywood that make films? Just as there are other stores than Wal-Mart. Unless it's 3AM or thereabouts, you're not going to find me shopping at Wal-Mart, I place a certain value on my time and long lines and incompetent service is not going to retain me as a customer no matter what the so-called "savings" appear to be. 

    "No one ever needs to do opiates?" Tell that to my back and what little is left of my knees. It's certainly not my choice to take 120 mgs of oxycodone a day, but I do rather enjoy getting out of bed and being able to walk. I've been doing this walking thing as long as I can remember, and I sort of enjoy being able to do it. "But wait!," he says, "Why not just get back and knee surgery?"  Well, you see that's a bit more easily said than done. X-rays and MRIs on my back have been "inconclusive" as to where the problem really lies, it could be any of five vertebrae that could be the problem or it could be more than one that is problem spot. Basically, after some expensive tests (which I only had to pay 20% of, but it was still pricey), the best that modern medical science can suggest is to cut open my back and poke around to see what they can see. No thank you. Oh, there's also the balancing act that has to be maintained because of my COPD. I'm basically an anesthesiologist's worst nightmare as not enough happy gas I wake up screaming and sue the hospital in general and the anesthesiologist in particular for every dime I can get; whereas too much happy gas and I go into cardiac arrest  and my wife sues. 

    My knees totally lack cartilage on both sides, again the problem with knee replacement surgery is that it's a long procedure and my chances of surviving the procedure are poor/fair. If I have to take four little pills as directed by my doctor for the rest of my life, well, that's my own little deal with the devil. And before you run in banging on the NA version of the Big Book, I'll mention a couple of other facts: #1. Prescription medicine should always be taken as directed, and if you feel for any reason that you might have a problem with doing so, tell your healthcare provider and see what alternates may be available,  in my case we went through everything possible until we hit on the right solution. I've had the dosage increased once in a ten-year period and actually reduced it the last two months with unsatisfactory results. Saw the doc Tuesday and he suggested as a new regimen that I start walking for thirty minutes after meals. Yeah, I can see the logic there, burn off the calories that you just consumed. I asked , "What about my knees?" He flipped through his notes on me and said "We'd better go back to the 30mgs, you weren't having pain then after walking were you?"  "No, not at all." So I left with a new scrip dated for yesterday, so what did I do in interim? Well obviously I tried the 30 minute walk on the lower dose and boy oh boy did I feel every step upon returning to the house. Just a final thought on this, I celebrated 30 years of sobriety in June and have been on the oxy for a little over a decade. I can easily see how some people could/would get addicted to it. I'm equally sure that after 10 years of daily use, if I were to stop suddenly, the result would be very unpleasant. It all comes down to whatever gets you through the night...

    Oh, and without playing pile-on (which really isn't my thing), do you know who the film industry's highest grossing actor was last year?  I'll give you a couple of hints: (You should easily get this , but just in case I'll give you a couple of clues):

    #1. He is of African and Pacific Islander ancestry.

    #2. He used to work for WWE

    Please state your answer in  the form of a question or Alex Trebeck will kick you in teh balls.

     

    Thank you for replying. As for my statement that no one should do opiates, I mainly meant that no one should ever abuse them (the way I did.) I was addicted to opiates after most of my family died, and it was my way of coping. I did a semi-homemade form of opiate that included in it codeine and morphine, as well as a litany of other forms of opiates (a double digit number, IIRC). And I became addicted to all of them. Kratom was pretty much the only thing that saved me from addiction.

    I can understand pain, and the need to take opiates, very well. I do not know you or (aside from what you have written) exactly how much you need opiates, and I truly do not want to sound like a prosthelytizer, but I wish you (and everyone else who need pain relief) would check out a little thing called Kratom. It saved my life, and on the particular forum I just linked to, I have read so many testimonials discussing how it saved people from both debilitating physical pain and opiate/opioid addiction. It even helps tremendously in overcoming alcoholism. Kratom is damn near a miracle drug, and of course both the DEA and FDA are relentlessly attempting to get it banned (even though it is one of the safest dietary supplements one could ever take, and is basically as safe as coffee) - mainly because it is cheap, plentiful, and threatens the pharmaceutical industry's huge profits on suboxone. 

    Thank you for your civil tone, by the way. I will try to remember to say a prayer for you (and your cats) next time I pray.

  4. 42 minutes ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said:

    Keanu Reeves has been back the last few years with one of the better new action franchises around. Tom Cruise says hello. Jason Statham is going to being sharing top billing with Rocky in the Hobbs movie. Speaking of Hobbs, have you ever heard of this guy named Vin Diesel?

    You're painting in very broad strokes with your media criticism. I'll leave it there. 

    Keanu Reeves is multiracial. So Is Vin Diesel. Tom Cruise is box office poison (at least here in America), and the only reason he hasn't been kicked out of the Eyes Wide Shut parties is because he is still a draw overseas, especially in Asia. He still has a very short amount of time before he's done completely, though. I'll give you Statham, although he is mostly a B-list actor at best, and Stallone is even more washed-up than Jean Claude Van Damme.

    But, I am painting in very broad strokes. I admit that. I suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder, which leads to (please forgive what I just realized makes a very stupid pun) "black-and-white thinking". Nuances are sometimes lost on me. And I accept your point about the Hispanic and Asian comedy relief actors.

  5. On 7/26/2018 at 9:47 AM, OSJ said:

    @lurkerbelow: If you are truly weary and sick of life, get some help, it ain't all that bad. 

    Also, don't be dissing Jim Jeffries and GOT, or you shall know my wrath! ? 

    Thank you for replying. As for GoT, I love the books, but the television show relies on nudity and extreme violence to keep the short attention spans of its viewer base. As for Jim Jefferies, I used to love him when he was an equal-opportunity offender, but he sold out when he got his Comedy Central show. Now he's basically a Koala Colbert following the television industry's previously mentioned drive to be an echo chamber. I am disappointed in him. Equal-opportunity offenders are getting rare these days, as even Bill Burr has become toothless since getting married. At least there's still Doug Stanhope and Anthony Cumia.

    As for life, I am getting help. I am seeing a great therapist now, and am undergoing the process of switching psychiatrists. The internet offers a pseudo-anonymity wherein we think we have privacy (all the while the NSA and Google know everything we've ever said or done online), so I don't know how much I should reveal about myself here, but if the previous heroin references were not enough of a clue, I am a recovering opiate addict. (Not heroin, interestingly enough, since I have a phobia about needles and the idea of sticking one into my vein in order to feel good seems madly paradoxical; but I was addicted to a form of opiates that were, and still are, legally possible to buy online, on such sites as Amazon - I won't get into details, as no one ever needs to do opiates, especially the kind I took, unless their life is so ruined that the added effect of an opiate addiction would be a drop in the bucket of harm and suffering in the first place, and I don't want introducing new people into the world of opiates hanging on my concious, so this is all I will say about it and leave it at that.) I was saved from my opiate addiction through a supplement known as mitrgyna speciosa, aka Kratom, which, of course, both the FDA and DEA are both trying to ban since, aside from being as safe as coffee,  it saves many (and has the potential to save much, much more) from opiate addiction and/or excruciating pain, and it's also very inexpensive, and so it threatens Big Pharma and the kickback money politicians get from them. Plus it being made illegal offers the potential to put even more harmless citizens into for-profit prisons, and helps the economy by employing entirely useless cops, prosecutors, and DEA agents, and so Kratom users are facing a very uphill battle in keeping it legal. But, thanks for the kind words.

    On 7/26/2018 at 8:28 AM, Technico Support said:

    @lurkerbelow

    First of all, welcome, and thanks for posting.

    The right's "Hollywood is full of liberals pushing the liberal agenda down our throats" is so tired and false.  A great deal of what you generalize as "Hollywood" is full of fake liberals who are racist and sexist as fuck.  If Hollywood was some shining beacon of happy liberalism and all that liberalism entails, why are so many major players going down in the me too movement?  Why are there protests every year of the Oscars being so white?  Why does a guy like Cliff Curtis get cast in roles for at least five different races?  Institutional racism is a thing (the "sin" of being born a white male, as you say) and, with Hollywood essentially being run by white guys, bet your sweet ass it's not as liberal and inclusive as you assume.  Liberalism in Hollywood is like cutting down the woods to build condos, then "offsetting" it by planting a tree somewhere.  These guys might support "liberal" causes, but that's just to assuage their guilt from being awful people in their everyday lives.  Hollywood execs supporting liberal causes is like Ted Cruz going duck hunting.  It plays well to the base.

    Right wingers take anything that challenges the straight white male status quo as a personal attack, like holy shit, how dare anyone cast a woman or POC when a straight white guy could fill the role?  Look at Marvel as an example.  How can you complain about forced diversity, "blackwashing," etc when the cornerstone of the multi billion dollar Marvel Cinematic Universe is three white guys?  But a lesser Thor character the general public has never heard of gets a black actor cast in the role and suddenly it's indicative of Hollywood pushing an evil liberal agenda.  Releasing Black Panther after the previous SEVENTEEN MCU films centered around white guys is somehow indicative of that damn liberal elite doing the SJW thing again.

    TL;DR there's no liberal agenda.  Hollywood is run by the studio gangsta equivalent of liberals.  Butthurt righties see every tiny stride toward making things 1% less white and male as a personal attack and indicative of some bogeyman Rush Limbaugh told them about.  Trust me, friend, the only color Hollywood cares about is green.

    Also: there's a cartoon I saw online where there's a global warming summit and one scientist is raising his hand, saying, "WAIT!  What if this is all a hoax and we make the environment and the world better for nothing???"  Even if there were a "liberal agenda" in film and TV, who cares?  Is it so bad that people who have been criminally misrepresented forever can get more work today than before?   Who is being harmed in this scenario?  This is why people who decry "PC culture" are labelled racists and sexists.  Because there's no reason, except hate, to be against inclusiveness movements.

    Thank you, as well, for replying. I, personally, am all over the map on the left/right spectrum, as I believe in global warming, single-payer healthcare, drug legalization, and a social safety net, among other things, and despite my last post, I would not consider myself a member of the alt-right.

    As for race and the presence on actors and actresses of color, it is not their being included in movies and television shows I have a problem with - it is how they are portrayed that I dislike. Yes, there should be more non-white characters (and not just black, like it currently is in Hollywood). But, the main problem with special interests that demand an ever-increasing amount of representation for their respective groups in Hollywood, is that they only want a certain *type* of representation: that being, solely positive. How many movies with black heroes and white villains have you seen, compared to the reverse? How many lesbian villains do we have (outside of 1960s vampire movies)? About the only "ethnic" characters that are portrayed as criminals are the occasional Hispanic characters. I realize that we have a diverse society and that should be reflected, but onscreen depictions should be realistic as well, and special interests demand that every portrayal of their constituents be an "uplifting" one. That has resulted in a Hollywood that churns out movies and TV shows by the dozens with black/female/occasionally South Asian/the rare Hispanic/LGBTQ+ good guys fighting villains (and street criminals in downtown NYC or LA) that are invariably white and male. You mention the MCU movies, but outside of those (or other comic-related movies), who are the action heroes? Dwayne Johnson, Denzel Washington, Will Smith, and a bunch of women. And in the vast majority of those movies, the villains are always white actors that were seemingly chosen based on how WASPy they looked (extra points if they have blond hair). Who are the actors playing the comedy relief roles? White males (and Kevin Hart). I believe actors and actresses of color should be represented, but their has to be a fairness and a balance in the way they are depicted. And there just isn't. That is what I object to.

  6. 9 hours ago, evilwaldo said:

    But is it an echo chamber and how is it different from television?  My take on both television and social media is this.  I have the power of the remote control.  If I see something I don't like when I turn the television on, I change the channel.  Nobody is forcing me to watch the news, KUWTK, or any reality television.  If I turn on the television and find nothing on I turn off the television and find something else to do.  Pick up a book, play a game, go to the gym, etc.

    How different is the echo chamber on social media than the echo chamber on television?  I see no difference.  I have the power of the remote control.  I will wield that power.

     

    Coming out of lurker mode just to say this:

    First off, your post, and the posts of some others here, were well-said and did a good job of making me see your side(s) of the situation. So, well done on that front. I am going to try to say what I say next as respectfully as possible, but I am so weary and sick of life that I don't know how good a job I'll do of it. With this in mind, please forgive me if I sound like I have 'tude (or sound like your typical edgelord).

    However, the television/echo chamber analogy might not have been the best one, because unless you watch anime on Adult Swim or something on Univision, almost everything that airs on US television is produced by Hollywood, and Hollywood might very well be the largest echo chamber in America, at least outside of the news industry. For instance, you have The Daily Show and its now-seemingly-endless clones (Samantha Bee, Jim Jefferies, Colbert on the Late Show, Seth Meyers, and probably a *lot* more that I'm not aware of), and in those, just like in the news media, you have a very strong alt-left presence (or, rather, the CTRL-left - yes, it is a lame keyboard pun, to be sure, but that's what it's called), yet there is no alt-right presence to speak of on anywhere on American television; the closest one can get to it is Fox News, which is more of an establishment-wing GOP/neocon channel that alternates between catering to audiences that are either conservatives strictly in the economic sense, or Christian fundies. Even though there is an audience for it, one would have to go to the internet for programming similar to what, let's say, Blaire White puts out, as it is nowhere to be seen on American television, despite there now being more televised content than ever; some (admittedly alarmist) critics have said that this is due to the theory that one cannot even find work in Hollywood if one is openly right-wing, so no matter which channel you turn the remote to, you are incredibly likely to find something that qualifies as "PC" at best and is likely to be pushing a CTRL-left agenda. You still wield "the power of the remote", but does it truly have any power when the television industry only gives you a very limited amount of options?

    The state of Hollywood, with its adherence (in an almost religious sense) to ideology such as "inclusiveness" (in the vein of blackwashing formerly white characters, and the act of ensuring that any given movie or television show has enough characters of color being put before the act of ensuring that said movies or television shows are well written) and "diversity" (as long as it is only diversity of nationality, religion, race and/or ethnicity, as long as that diversity in only on-screen and never at the studio or network exec level, and there is never ever any diversity of thought or opinion as everyone must be in lockstep with their beliefs - oh yeah, and all the mandatory characters that aren't straight, or white, or male can only be good guys, preferably main characters, while all the villains are white guys playing White Supremacist stand-in characters) along with the supreme arrogance of what regular Joe Americans saw as "elitist Hollywood snobs" foregoing any and all semblance of impartiality and becoming blatant activist shills for Clinton, and the tendency of the left that so dominates both Hollywood and the news media to so adamantly assert that anyone admitting a dislike of movies which push progressive agendas (such as anyone who disliked the Ghostbusters reboot, even if the dislike was based on its merits alone) was a hateful misogynist bigot *on top of* the original sin of being born an evil white male (which has now shifted to aiding in the demonization of any criticism of Oceans 8 and Captain Marvel) are some of the many reasons that led to the perfect (shit)storm that resulted in Trump being elected in 2016. Trump's victory was a lot like Ayatollah Khomeini's rise into power in Iran - in both cases the people felt oppressed by a government, ruling class/group of elites, news media, and a pop culture that no longer represented them, perhaps even openly despised them, and served special interests above the greater good of the people of their countries. The people felt disaffected, marginalized, and disenfranchised - and when that happens, they often embrace despots that they think will represent them, even if only because they're not the other despots that represent others before representing them.

    Hollywood, the vast majority of the news media, and the greater overall pop culture in America in general, are all echo chambers for the CTRL-left. And they are all very contemptuous of "flyover country". The left-wing bias had been inherent in the mainstream media for decades and decades, and the New York Times for example has, since for pretty much the start of the 20th century, been shills for Communism, but it was cemented in the early 00s when Dumbya got elected through the "hanging chad" shenanigans with sites like moveon.org and Daily Kos forming the base of what would become the modern SJW community, then wastes of bandwidth and truly garbage net rags such as Salon, HuffPo, Buzzfeed, Vox, Polygon, the former Gawker and it's modern descendants Jezebel and (with all due apologies to Mr. Bixenspan) Deadspin rose to what such low things could call "prominence"; then the mainstream media did what they do best and followed the militant, extremist left-wing leaders and they became like the Buzzfeeds and Salons.  And after years of hate speech and hit pieces about "toxic masculinity" and "white male entitlement" in the media and the classrooms, years of action movies starring Will Smith or Denzel Washington fighting the eeevil white criminals and/or eeevil white villains (while in real life blacks committed more than 80 percent of all interracial violent crime and the whites who were victims of them, or had loved ones who were, were expected to drop ever-increasing money on movie tickets and DVDs to see said "progressive punching-up" action schlock) while factories closed and Obama's genius plan to fix the economy was to give everyone in the Rust Belt jobs working at gas stations and McDonald's, and they had to buy their food *and* their clothes at dollar stores, while the news media cheerfully announced that the Great Recession was over, because the 1% was doing so well on Wall Street - so all the whiteys got on heroin just to numb the pain of living in such a great, progressive wonderland, and as they saw the GOP establishment do nothing but increase military spending to fight never-ending wars for the Israeli lobbyists that used federal aid money to bribe them (oh yeah, and control of the poppy farms in Afghanistan so they could make bank on all that dank heroin everyone was doing), shout niceties such as "they hate us for our freedom!" and jokes about French people,  and give all their other attention to Christian fundies while their lives were Hell on Earth, they realized that neither side of the two party system establishment represented them, and so the reverse side of the Buzzfeed coin, sites such as Breitbart and 4Chan and Daily Stormer, started to fill a niche and the alt-right was born. Hillary was Obama's hand-picked would-be successor, and a lot of Obama's accomplishments in office (like, you know, making it legal for the president to kill any US citizen for any reason at any time without due process) were especially put in place by him (and the elites that spent billions on her campaign, including the salaries of all the "journalists" in the media that shilled for her) for Clinton's sure-thing easy victory in 2016. Then Trump came along.

    It's kind of like the music industry: mainstream music became such gawdawful shit that, while there are still a couple of pop stars and rappers with mainstream appeal, the vast majority of music listeners just tuned out and retreated into their niche communities of underground rap, EDM, K-pop, metal, punk, outlaw country, hardcore, metalcore, crunkcore, emo, screamo, and 80s or 90s nostalgia on Youtube. Mainstream politics, and the shitshow of political bias that is modern pop culture,  got so unbearably bad (outside superhero movies, Instagram, and Netflix), that they became irrelevant, moderates stopped existing, and everyone went into their respective echo chambers: the CTRL-left got tumblr, their side of Twitter, network and cable television so they can enjoy endless Daily Show clones (with the exception of older white people who aren't internet savvy and really like "White People Home Renovation" shows) and the vast majority of the movie industry so they can enjoy evermore diverse message flicks about how black female scientists were solely responsible for us going to the moon, and King Arthur and Robin Hood movies with enough black actors to make them resemble Game of Thrones-themed rap videos; while the alt-right got 4Chan, their side of Twitter, the video game industry (until Gamergate. Thanks, Anita Sarkesian!) and the RPG/tabletop/board/card game industries (thanks for ruining those too, Anita!) and comic books (until Comicsgate and Marvel went full SJW, shamed all their toxic white male customers away because their tastes in entertainment were problematic,  and would have gone out of business by now if not for the MCU - oh, hi there, Captain Marvel movie!), and Steven Crowder, Blaire White, Sargon, and all the other alt-right Youtube channels. And that is where they are going to stay until a new Revolutionary War (not Civil War, Revolutionary War) or the biblical Apocalypse happens. I honestly don't know which one is going to happen first.

     

     

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  7. 3 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    Or maybe she is a proven white supremacist by previous actions and you should shut the hell up.

    I am not aware of any actions she may have made to show that she's a white supremacist; the only things I have ever read about her give me the impression that she is very left wing and politically correct; perhaps you are correct that she is, but I've never seen her do anything to make me think she is a white supremacist.

    However, that being said, given the fact that your race even has an ethnic slur named after its tendency to blindly defend other members of the race when they are accused of wrongdoing (that slur being "Dindus", in other words "he Dindu Nuffin"), and thus you know the effects of individuals making bigoted comments about African Americans siding with their ethnic kinsmen based upon racial purposes, I would think that you would be the last human being to have room to criticize Lena or any other white woman for "choosing whiteness" over being a female or any other label or categorization - if she even did do that, which I'm not entirely convinced that she did. Please don't bring race into an issue of Dunham wanting to defend her friend, and saying her doing so is because of "choosing whiteness" - it smacks of bigotry and race-baiting, and you should be above that.

  8. 8 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    I was wondering why Black Twitter (especially the females) was pissed at Lena Dunham (again). Now, it makes sense:

    https://www.avclub.com/lena-dunham-defends-girls-writer-accused-of-sexual-assa-1820565531

    When it came to either whiteness or being a female, she chose whiteness in this case.

     

    Or maybe she, you know, just thinks the guy is innocent. Or doesn't want to accept that he would do such a thing, because of how nice he seemed to her when she worked with him.

    Please don't racebait.

  9. Ah, I see that now. I wasn't just talking about this forum, though; the discourse in general society seems to address only women. And I don't know why that is. I was watching a clip from The View on youtube recently and the women on that show only addressed female victims, and that seems to be the case both within the media and with everyday folks. It seems that it's easier to talk about sexual misconduct when the target of abuse is female, for some reason. I agree with you on the issue of men being shamed into not saying anything; that is a big taboo.

  10. Hi there. I'm usually a lurker here,  but in the midst of this Hollywood burning down uproar I feel the need to make a comment about something regarding this whole debacle. I have not yet read all the posts in this thread, so forgive me if it has already been said, and of course this does not only apply to this message board but to all discussions of this issue: why is everyone focusing only on women, when it appears the same thing happens to males in Hollywood (especially underage boys)? Terry Crews and Kevin Sorbo have made claims that they were the target of sexual wrongdoing, and Corey Feldman has been trying to tell his story for years, but he only got laughed at and ignored. There have been rumors and conspiracy theories about pedophile rings existing in Hollywood for many years now, and it's not a secret that young male actors have to get on the casting couch, probably as much as young actresses do. So why is the discourse only about women?

  11. Hi there. I never post here (as my name implies, I'm a lurker), but with the demagoguery of some certain posters (such as Techico Support and others) ventingly cursing "hicks" and "rednecks" for getting Trump elected, other posters (such as (BP) among others)  declaring that Trump's win is a "last gasp of old white people" (with the - perhaps merely inferred by myself - smugly implied assumption that before too long they will die off and the Progressive Multicultural Communist Dream Paradise can be ushered in), and yet other posters bouncing a whole littany of other ideas off the wall, it's clear that a lot of us are reeling right now and looking for answers as to why Hillary lost and a candidate so widely considered to be so repugnant won. I don't think I have all the answers, but I read these articles and watched this youtube video, and they strike me as perceptive, or at least something to ponder. So, I just thought I'd leave these links here to give you something in the way of food for thought. I probably won't comment anymore, but I hope you read/view the links and consider them carefully.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/revenge-of-the-forgotten-class

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/10/democrats-working-class-americans-us-election

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

     

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  12. I'm coming out of lurker mode just to bemoan the lack of posts about last weekend's episode.

    This weekend's show was good, but last weekend's was better. This week had a decent six man tag with MCMG in it (it didn't have enough MCMG teamwork goodness in it, though) and Roddy/Castle which was good, but last week had Jason Kincaid being awesome and a sweet ACH/Mark Briscoe match. It also had Mark Briscoe wondering what ACH stands for and offering allegedly humorous ideas. It ruled.

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