Jump to content
DVDVR Message Board

Dusty Finish

Members
  • Posts

    44
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by Dusty Finish

  1. I honestly believe that Moira is the absolute worst part of the show with Laurel a close second.

     

    The biggest problem with Moira is that she's an adult character on a WB show.  Played by an actress in her mid-50's, no less.  Which means the network has little use for her and will likely instruct the showrunner to ignore her character in favor of younger characters.

     

    The "Moira runs for mayor" plotline is pretty dire, though.  Almost as ridiculous as an underage 19 year-old running a bar (I know Ollie owns the bar, but the only way a 19 year old acts as manager is if Starling City either doesn't have an alcohol and beverage commission, or if they're too lazy to ever vitist Ollie's bar).

  2. I'm amused that, in this discussion, a 20 year-old affair is more of an impediment to running for public office that being involved with a secret criminal organization that, in the past year, attempted to ruin the city and rebuild it to suit themselves.

     

    I'm willing to overlook all of these logic gaps in her candidacy on the grounds that I like Susanna Thompson as an actress and she looks great for 56.  Clearly, I am the sort of shallow, ill-informed voter Starling City needs more of.

    • Like 1
  3. I watched this show for the first or second time last night (may have watched the pilot).  It.... interested me less than the terrible Transformers movie than preceded it on FX. 

     

    I am, however, very impressed by the cast's dedication to their roles as evidenced by the fact that everyone except maybe Alicia Witt and Amy Smart has ridiculous hair.

  4. Moira is probably more dead to Ollie for cheating on his father with his best friend's father opposed to keeping the act a secret.

     

    Didn't he already know that they had an affair?  Or am I confusing things?   I thought Ollie knew about the affair, but not Thea's parentage - in which case his anger is a little over the top, since he isn't going to tell Thea either.

  5. Considering how unlikable she is, I have to think they will be killing her off by the time the season ends.

     

    Will say Laurel wasn't pissed at people fussing over Sarah so much as she was pissed that her sister, whose death sparked the downward spiral of the Lance family, was actually alive and could have possibly come back to them at any point. No of course we know Sarah's reasons, but Laurel, not so much.

     

    True.  I didn't frame her reaction all that accurately.   But..... if my sibling came back from the dead after five or six years, my first reaction would probably be joy that they were still alive.  The recriminations and "shoulda/woulda/coulda's can wait a couple days.  The flashbacks in the same episode to the Lance household pre-boat accident made me think Laurel's reaction was just the latest in a bout of sibling rivalry and was a typical reaction from Laurel.  Basically, they wrote the scene so Laurel reacted like a petulant teenager, not a 20-something professional.

     

    I don't really see where they go with the character aside from the cliched sibling rivalry/sibling reconciliation plotline.

  6. Now that Arrow has wrapped up the Ra's Al Ghul/League of Assassins stuff (for now) and positioned the Sarah Lance character so they can use her more regularly, is there really any reason to keep Laurel Lance around?  The character doesn't really add much, they don't seem to know what to do with Laurel, and Katie Cassidy strikes me as being really limited as an actress.

     

    I really was rolling my eyes at Laurel's spoiled brat tantrum at the end of this past week's ep.  Sister returns from dead and Laurel's first reaction is a hissy fit over how people fuss over Sarah.  Really?  Couldn't hold off on that a day or two?  Granted that is the writer's doing, not the actress, but....

     

    I'd prefer to see any of the other female characters get Laurel's story time - even Felicity (who, in general, I could do with less of).

  7. What happens if Verne somehow convinces Hogan to stay with the AWA and he doesn't jump to the WWF?  I tend to think he'd end up in the WWF at some point, but what if he doesn't?  He probably becomes a Flair-level  draw, but maybe never becomes "THE HULKSTER, BROTHER".  Does WWF plug someone else into his slot and still crosses over into the pop culture mainstream?  Without Hogan, the past 30 years in the industry could play out vastly differently.

     

    Most importantly, if Hogan never goes to the WWF, does Brutus Beefcake still get repackaged as the Booty Man?

  8. Yeah, grumpy people. I think we're watching a different show or something. The entire tone of How I Met Your Mother is occasionally bittersweet, sure, but it's also a fairy tale. The whole damn show is. It's a show where true love exists and people can get a happy ending. It might not be a perfect one (see Robin: kids), but it's still a happy ending. 

     

    This.  I'll be pretty damn disappointed if they go for darkness at the end and reveal Ted or the mother to be dead.  All in all, the show's theme is very upbeat: love exists, friends mean something, you can find that "one" for you if you keep looking long enough, marriage works, etc.  I don't know that this show is the sort of thing that should end on a down note. 

     

    Along those lines, I kinda hate that "San Francisco" has become a thing this season.  I kinda like that they resisted breaking Lily and Marshall up during the run of the show (San Francisco aside, which was done off camera over the summer hiatus between seasons so as to avoid the breakup cliche scenarios).  I think Lily and Marshall have been one of the better tv couples precisely because they avoided so many of the tropes that every other tv couple goes through simply to put some drama in the relationship (it's hard to imagine Lily and Marshall having a "we were on a break" moment).

  9.  

     

    What if DAvif Von Erich hadn't died and then won the NWA Title at The Parade of champions as originally planned?

    Does he get a meaningful run or does he get the same 18 day run that Kerry did? Does World Class not break away from the NWA? Does DAvid run World Class as planned and avoid working with Jerry Jarrett/Jerry Lawler and Verne Gagne?

     

    James

     

    Also, does Mike get pushed so hard?  Does Mike still kill himself?  What about Chris?  With David around, can he help keep Kerry under control, so no motorcycle accident?  That could really change things.

     

    Yes, Mike still gets the super push because he was a VE and they all got it minus Chris. Yes, Mike still probably kills himself since he was a druggie and the Toxic Shock Syndrome was a big factor as well. Kerry was his own biggest enemy and if he didn't kill himself, would have ended up in jail for the long term anyway like he was scheduled to.

     

    The VE's can blame David's death all they want and while I'm sure it played a factor, it is just a convenient excuse for parental abuse, drug problems/too fast too soon stardom and never growing up.

     

     

    This.  I think the old board had a "What if Eddie Gilbert hadn't died in Feb 1995" and a plausible scenario is that Gilbert dies 5 months later in a hotel room in Puerto Rico from the same cause.  Or he ods a week after that.  Or....    Gilbert was an addict with a destructive personality.  It's hard to imagine him getting clean and living another 20-30 years.  Sane with the Von Erichs, in my opinion.  The biggest threat to the brothers' health was themselves (well, maybe Fritz).

     

    If David lives, I think it changes the timeline of events somewhat, but not the ultimate outcome.  KIerry sill spins out of control,Mike still does drugs and either kills himself or ods, etc.  I'm skeptical that David's death was simply a heart attack as the VE's claim (Fliar's claim that Brody destroyed the evidence sounds a little more likely),  If David did have a heart attack, I'd guess prior drug use had something to do with it (same with Gilbert).

     

    The Von Erich's were a bad combination of parental pressure, success they weren't ready for, and immature, addictive personalities.  It's really difficult to think that turns out well simply because one or two events happen or don't happen.

  10. What if Antonio Inoki hadn't lost influence and been forced out of New Japan in the mid-00's?  The company was a mess financially and in-ring by the time they rid themselves of Inoki?

     

    What if Hogan had never signed with WCW?  (a couple better in-ring years, but the company dies sooner?)

     

    What if Kobashi ends his epic NOAH title run by dropping the belt to Jun Akiyama as originally planned?  Akiyama probably could have carried the company.  Rikio could not, and his title run was the start of a long downward spiral for NOAH?

     

    What if ROH makes it to December 2008 with Gabe still involved, and Punk, Joe, Danielson, etc. still working primarily for the company?

     

    What if Sting signs with the WWF in the early 90's and gets the same type of push that WCW gave him?

     

    What if Sting signs with WWE some time around 1998-2001?

     

    What if Turner never sells?  Or, better yet, Turner sells to Time Warner and instead of deciding they don't want wrestling, Time Warner decides to sweep out the Bischoff/Russo management structure and brings in people to both book the company and make it cost effective?

  11. Ask about FMW in the puro forum.  Bahu will hook you up.

     

    In general, I enjoyed mid-90's FMW quite a bit.  Before the mid-90's, it tends to be all Onita, All the Time working the deatmatches against guys like Mr. Pogo.  Not much workrate there.  In the mid-90's, it starts to open up a bit and you get things like the Funk Masters of Wrestling (heel group led by Terry Funk).  Then the focus starts to shift to Hayabusa more, you get things like the awesome (and seemingly never-ending) Hayabusa-Gannosuke feud, Masata Tanaka rises up the card, etc.

     

    Late 90's, you hit the Onita heel turn (complete with Bret Hart tribute tights), The rise of Gannosuke as a top heel, and finally Team No Respect.  No Respect might be my favorite heel faction not the 80's Four Horsemen,

     

    After Team No Respect, the promotion turned fully towards sports entertainment and gleefully rocketed itself into oblivion, so the last few years are fairly skippable.

    • Like 1
×
×
  • Create New...