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To this day, it's way up there as one of my best moments as a wrestling fan since 5 years old. Mankind was the first heel I ever liked, I was 11 and Foley is one of my favourite wrestlers ever. Cool I got to meet him in May 2003. What a pop, the commentary call and reactions to Mankind winning the WWF Championship. That'll put butts in seats!Tony Schiavone having to say that line.

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56 minutes ago, The Natural said:

To this day, it's way up there as one of my best moments as a wrestling fan since 5 years old. Mankind was the first heel I ever liked, I was 11 and Foley is one of my favourite wrestlers ever. Cool I got to meet him in May 2003. What a pop, the commentary call and reactions to Mankind winning the WWF Championship. That'll put butts in seats!Tony Schiavone having to say that line.

It was so loud.  I left the show with concert ear and very little voice.  Unforgettable.
 

Foley was my guy.  So I got really lucky that I chose to buy a ticket to THAT show.  Very validating.  
 

Being that the rest of the show was fucking annoying because in the upper deck seats we had the grid lights above the ring shooting us in the face all night.  The big moment went a long way to save the night.  

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42 minutes ago, Brandon Bones said:

It was so loud.  I left the show with concert ear and very little voice.  Unforgettable.
 

Foley was my guy.  So I got really lucky that I chose to buy a ticket to THAT show.  Very validating.  
 

Being that the rest of the show was fucking annoying because in the upper deck seats we had the grid lights above the ring shooting us in the face all night.  The big moment went a long way to save the night.  

Wow, that's actually incredible you were there. I consider that to be the loudest pop I have ever heard. I can not imagine the energy and electricity in that building that night.

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10 hours ago, Dog said:

What are you right about? Don't say about Britt being a jerk in the past -- no one's disputing that, because no one cares. You don't seem to understand that.

I don't know if anyone's defending her as much as saying, "Get the fuck over it; wrestlers are literally professional liars; what the fuck were you expecting?"

who are you to decide who cares about what?  You say I'm "entitled" but re-read your posts.   

 

Right about Brit,  right about J-Rose, and right about Tay.  The 3 things you all seem to keep coming back to.  

If nobody cares then we can let it drop. But you guys aren't willing to.  More toxic shit from you all then anything else. 

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For Chrst's sake. You weren't "right" about Tay. You're acting like a fucking baby dude. She sat on a guy's lap and then later tried to downplay it and called people saying it, a liar. Who the fuck cares? Grow up. She's out there deflecting shit she didn't want people to know about. That doesn't make you right that makes you an immature asshole who can't read the room. If you broke into the pentagon and took a bunch of pics of classified documents they would lie about their existence too. Your inability to get the fuck over it is intolerable.

No idea about the J-Rose thing so not going to comment on something I have no knowledge on. But you weren't right about Britt either. Because you were out there TMZ'ing who she supposedly was fucking. Whether she had an attitude or not, you're in the wrong there gossiping about her personal life. Fucking Labar (if true, which I very much doubt) had fucking ZERO to do with her breaking into the wrestling business. So you're wrong again. And a fucking scumbag to boot.

Let's not forget your rants about Cogar and how he was done in the business for selling an ACAB sticker. Uh, last check dude is fucking killing it in GCW and broke free of the Pittsburgh drama. So wrong again.

And finally my last bit of wisdom. Life isn't about being right. Being right is insignificant. You can be the most right man on the planet and still be a prick no one wants to talk to. Maybe 2022 should be a year of personal growth for you. Break free from right or wrong, try and define yourself by being a good person or a bad person.

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27 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

Let's not forget your rants about Cogar and how he was done in the business for selling an ACAB sticker. Uh, last check dude is fucking killing it in GCW and broke free of the Pittsburgh drama. So wrong again.

I actually did forget about that. "Career suicide" is how it was phrased. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Casey said:

Can I still buy that sticker or nah

Doesn't look like it. His Bigcartel only has three items listed right now, and two are sold out.

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As someone mentioned earlier, isn't the 90 Day non-compete completely up to the wrestler's discretion? They can choose to not work and keep getting paid for 90 days, or they can waive it and go work somewhere else right away? Andrade and FTR showed up in AEW right after finishing with WWE. Raven did the same years ago and showed up in TNA the same week.

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24 minutes ago, Swift said:

As someone mentioned earlier, isn't the 90 Day non-compete completely up to the wrestler's discretion? 

Looking into this based on the examples you gave and looking into the recent several rounds of releases, that doesn't appear to be the case. You have to request for it to be waived and they have to grant that request. Otherwise, you will have that 30 or 90 day non compete. It appears that Andrade's deal didn't have a non-compete at all, which is why he could go elsewhere right away. It sounds like several others (the more recent ones) tried to get it waived and were unsuccessful.

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2 hours ago, odessasteps said:

It would seem a poor deal on the employer if someone under contract could quit, waive their no compete payout and just show up in another promotion the same day. I’d think they would want protection on their end. 

I don't think anyone is arguing that because you (the employee) didn't hold up to your end of the contract. However, at the same time, you have the deal with what's an employee and an independent contractor and all that. But I get what you mean.

However, if you release me, you should pay the remainder of my deal and let me be. It should work BOTH ways. 

Moreover, what is the purpose of a non-compete anyway? None of these people are game changers. To give the 457th wrestler down on the totem pole a non-compete doesn't make sense.

The UFC is probably (even likely) more oppressive than the WWE, and they don't even do that type of shit. If you went 0-5 in the UFC, Dana isn't trying to stop you from fighting at some Indian casino in Oklahoma a week after you got released. I mean you don't get the money left on your deal (most of it isn't guaranteed anyway), but you're free to go and do whatever once they release you.

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You'd have to read the whole book, he goes into more detail on both. I read it ages ago and don't remember much about the Ross thing, but it's something to do with Bill Watts promising Sheikh a bunch of money, then telling him to pick the money up from Ross, and Ross denying all knowledge. So Sheikh assumed that Ross stole his money because he trusts Watts. Or something.

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