Dolfan in NYC Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Oh they are absolutely complicit. But they essentially answer to nobody (yes, the fans, but lol). I'm sure there's a reporter or two out there (the ones who have a VERY good reason to be furious about this), who have been told who 1. isn't vaccinated and 2. they should keep their mouths shut about. If Goddell essentially does nothing about this egregious violation, it will be interesting to see how they react. Leaking to a site that doesn't care about ACCESS~ seems like a good way to go. So, basically expect Defector and/or Vice to have an unvax list published by Thanksgiving, is all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Yeah. Phil and I are discussing this. It is established that Rodgers is a moron and a weasel about this. Let's move on to how the hell the NFL even let things get punted this far. I work from home. I am the most inessential person in the company. If I get fired today no one notices. The company I work for is nothing. They could go out of business tomorrow and no one notices. I had to take a pic of my vax card and email to HR for them to track who was vaccinated. The NFL is a multi-BILLION dollar corporation. You could argue it is a top 10 corporation in America. The NFL could not build a database for the roughly (spitballing here) 5000+ players/coaches/staff members? And then demand pics of vax cards be sent to them so they have proof (even if it is a faked card) of yay or nay? The NFL punted this on the teams to track. How can a multi-billion dollar corporation punt that all on the teams when it would have taken minimal effort and money to track? Edited November 4, 2021 by EdA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, EdA said: The NFL punted this on the teams to track. How can a multi-billion dollar corporation punt that all on the teams when it would have taken minimal effort and money to track? I'm guessing they tested the waters here and found the pushback was probably a lot more than they expected. Whether that's from the anti-vax politicians, the players, the union, or whomever. So, rather than have mandates saying "get vaccinated or you don't play in the NFL", like the NBA did, they put all that enforcement on the teams. Also, I don't know what the CBA says about disease protocol enforcement, but since they seem to outsource concussions to the teams too, I'm guessing that's language that's written in there. And we're all extremely aware there are players who are on the field who should not be, under any circumstances. So this does seem par for the sleazy course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdA Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Which...sure. If the NFLPA actually had....you know...the guts and power to fight the league and all. Which....yeah. So we're just saying everyone involved is just lazy and negligent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, EdA said: Which...sure. If the NFLPA actually had....you know...the guts and power to fight the league and all. Which....yeah. So we're just saying everyone involved is just lazy and negligent? It's easy to say this, but these guys are over a barrel. The vast majority of NFL players have no real reason to fight for anything in labor negotiations, because they are young and being paid more than they'll ever make doing anything else. Most of these players aren't in a position to turn down short term money, because they won't be around for the long term money. They have to get what they can right now, because by the time a long drawn out labor dispute is over, they will already be replaced by the next young players in line. The billionaire owners can afford to wait, because they're billionaires. Players need to get what they can before their bodies give out, which can happen at any time. You can't blame people who don't want to fight a fight when they won't get their share of the spoils if they win. Even if they win the fight for the future, the current players will lose more than they gain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Dolfan in NYC said: So, rather than have mandates saying "get vaccinated or you don't play in the NFL", like the NBA did, they put all that enforcement on the teams. Hold up a second - the NBA most certainly doesn't require vaccines for players. They are definitely taking advantage of cities with local mandates but they do not have a vaccine mandate for players as the NBAPA - like all the other PAs - have strongly opposed them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said: Someone fairly high up believes "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission" with a virus that's killed nearly 3/4 of a million Americans. The Shield needs to drop the hammer hard on them, otherwise all of these protocols are completely meaningless. The article "football spaces" seemed to indicate that the Vikings have been violating protocol with Kirk Cousins. If they punish Green Bay - hahahahahaha, yeah, right - then they gotta punish Minnesota, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Roger Goodell doesn't punish anyone for anything, unless its extremely old emails talking bad about him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 17 hours ago, RIPPA said: Hold up a second - the NBA most certainly doesn't require vaccines for players. They are definitely taking advantage of cities with local mandates but they do not have a vaccine mandate for players as the NBAPA - like all the other PAs - have strongly opposed them. FWIW, a story went around that the NBAPA was basically open to a vaccine mandate for players (well, open to at least discussing it), but a couple influential players were opposed and quashed the idea. Unsurprisingly, Kyrie was the name that was mentioned. The OBJ thing is nuts. I'm a "I just watch the games" guy, but I know a few people who know enough to understand the X's and O's and they think Mayfield's the one to blame for OBJ "not getting open" and not catching balls. It feels like they should have been able to get some return on him in a trade, even though his contract and the fact that no one really believed he'd be in Cleveland much longer probably drove down the offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RIPPA Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Of course he started the interview with 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 This whole interview with McAfee is the giant dumpster fire you expected it to be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Of course he started the interview with I'm sorry, but he's not in the position to be calling anyone a liar. He was asked directly if he was vaccinated and he said, "yes, I'm immunized," which is a lie at worst and a blatant, deliberate, misrepresentation of the truth at best. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 And the part that the NFL will concern itself the most with 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Oh yeah - he is hitting every check box since he just rolled out the "If the vaccine is so great, then how come people are still getting covid and spreading covid?" line and then name dropped "good friend Joe Rogan" and has been doing what Rogan says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Meanwhile the WWE is probably hoping McAfee plugs SDL tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, RIPPA said: Oh yeah - he is hitting every check box since he just rolled out the "If the vaccine is so great, then how come people are still getting covid and spreading covid?" line and then name dropped "good friend Joe Rogan" and has been doing what Rogan says Joe Rogan is a dumb person who has convinced all the other dumb people that he's smart. Seriously, if you want me to ignore everything you ever have to say, bring up Joe Rogan as a source of information. You'll be put on the list with the girl who told me Stevie Wonder was her favorite artist and that, "I Just Called To say I Love You," was her favorite song. Nothing you say can be taken seriously for the rest of my life. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 The only thing I would consult Joe Rogan is how to get really really fucked up. Which I wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers did that as well after reading that thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (You can follow the entire thread for quotes - there are other ones floating around on Twitter too) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Okay - he just said he was like MLK because he "doesn't follow rules that don't make sense" I'm out 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogwelder Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Yeah, think I've lost any respect I had for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 Luckily he did this interview with McAfee who is probably marking out too much to possibly think how nutty this all sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Paranoia is one of the major signs of CTE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 33 minutes ago, RIPPA said: Okay - he just said he was like MLK because he "doesn't follow rules that don't make sense" I'm out Jesus Christ, I thought you were joking. This is, without a doubt, the greatest heel promo of all time. Fuck Aaron and the horse he rode in on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 If only there was some sort of warning sign (make a note of the date of the Tweet) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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