Dolfan in NYC Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I debated naming this Raw is Reminding You Who They Don't Want To Show Up in AEW, but this will have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dragonzombie Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Gable Steveson skips developmental. They're using blue lights with red now for the crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Raw Talk RAW Miz Ziggler and Roode Cedric and Shelton Veer Liv Morgan Tamina Tegan Jaxson Ryker Dana Brooke Mia Yim (her real self) SD Shotzi Natalya Jinder and Shanky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Bianca/Charlotte was nice thought they were a bit off towards the end. I enjoyed Becky on commentary. I love how she gets frustrated. Nothing surprising moves wise aside from Gable Stevenson skipping the PC. Poor Shotzi can't keep a tag partner. Holland moving up already sucks. Was hoping to see more of him in NXT. Edited October 5, 2021 by Eivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gonzo Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Yeah, I don't get why they broke up Shotzi and Nox. I thought they were actually developing them into a legit tag team. And I'm quite surprised to see Gable Steveson on there already, but I'm damn sure looking forward to seeing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I'd say Smackdown's won as they've kept Roman Reigns and Sasha Banks. Banks is the best women's wrestler and one of the best period. Sheamus is a welcome addition, ditto Drew McIntyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo2653 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Doesn't Steveson have another year in college left? I assume he'll make an appearance or two and the disappear for training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 The Smackdown women's roster is pretty heel heavy, so I can see them splitting Nox/Shotzi up if they plan to push Shotzi as their main face. Really, the only options are her, Naomi or Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 According to Cageside Seats, who browsed the roster pages for both brands, here are the people that weren't drafted: Brock Lesnar Goldberg Asuka (?) Elias Eva Marie Lacey Evans Gran Metalik Lince Dorado MVP Slapjack Titus O'Neil Bayley (?) Maryse Elias was ready to do. . .something, I think. . .and has apparently just disappeared. Lacey is still out because of her pregnancy. I assume that MVP is just going to show up with Lashley again at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 They usually don't draft people that are out due to injury so that explains Bayley (out till at least next Mania) and Asuka (who currently has a broken elbow). Brock is a "free agent" so he can show up wherever they put him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Ramo2653 said: Doesn't Steveson have another year in college left? I assume he'll make an appearance or two and the disappear for training. I read somewhere that his deal will allow him to continue wrestle in college, so he's going to be defending his NCAA title. Overall it was a pretty underwhelming draft in my view. There were no real shocking trades. Everything made sense in it's own way. Only thing that is slightly interesting is how they handle the Women's championships since the champions are now on opposite brands. I can almost see Becky retaining at Crown Jewel so they do a deal like they did last year with the tag titles and just swap the belts this way Becky gets back the title she never lost. I was shocked that Ridge Holland got a call up and without Pete Dunne no less. Well on the plus side at least all the couples stayed together. That was nice of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Gonzo said: According to Cageside Seats, who browsed the roster pages for both brands, here are the people that weren't drafted: Dakota Kai was left out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Phantom Lord said: Overall it was a pretty underwhelming draft in my view. There were no real shocking trades. Everything made sense in it's own way. Only thing that is slightly interesting is how they handle the Women's championships since the champions are now on opposite brands. I can almost see Becky retaining at Crown Jewel so they do a deal like they did last year with the tag titles and just swap the belts this way Becky gets back the title she never lost. We're in agreement. Said this on Sunday: Charlotte's the RAW Women's Champion and Becky Lynch the Smackdown Women's Champion. I wouldn't be surprised if both swap belts like the New Day/Streets Profits switched the tag team belts to add another reign on Charlotte's tally. Ugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I read somewhere that KOs been drafted to a new show every time since the roster split was brought back in 2016. Carmella's remained on Smackdown Live since. Daniel Bryan was the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Honestly, does WWE still need to do the brand split? i don't think they do. They don't get much mileage out of it and it seems to lead to in-fighting among the networks over who gets the biggest draws. If they are going to do a split, I sort of wish they differentiate the shows a little by having one show host the tag team division and having the other show be home to the women's division. They don't really have enough depth in either division to split them up. Each show tends to end up with two or three top tag teams/women wrestlers and that group either feuds among themselves multiple times, or drops falls to midcarders they shouldn't be feuding with, much less losing too. A women's tag division with the Horsewoman on top, plus Asuka, would be very entertaining. It'd also give them enough depth in the women's undercard to put together a real tag team division. As it is, neither division is that great. Smackdown is going to be particularly rough if Shotzi can't carry the babyface side of things on her own. Personally, I don't think Sasha or Charlotte makes for a good babyface. Same thing with the tag division. We've seen Usos-New Day many, many times before, and SD doesn't have much else to work with. It'd be a much better division if Usos, Street Profits, New Day, Alpha Academy, etc. were on the same show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I was checked out of wrestling for most of the Smackdown Six run, so I think one of the only times I enjoyed the brand split was during the Raw guest host era where it was a shitty variety show and Smackdown had great matches nearly every week with the Hardys, Punk, Mysterio, Morrison, McIntyre, etc. That felt like two different shows (even if one was borderline unwatchable dreck.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 They sent Xia Li to Smackdurn. I guess Mei Ying will have to continue pulling the workrate weight for Tian Sha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 WWE without a brand split is such a worse product, which I can imagine is hard to believe, but it is. We've been down that path before and it sucked. I mean, it really, really sucked. While both SD and Raw have gotten worse than they were when the brand split was first brought back, if you didn't have a brand split, then you never get Kofi or Big E with a run on top. Hell, you don't even get Bobby Lashley with a run on top. A WWE without a brand split means you have to trust them to treat the IC title as the equivalent of a top belt like AEW's TNT title. Does anyone want to trust Vince with doing that? He didn't before. Hell, the IC title turned into even more of a jobber belt. The major problem with Raw and SD and WWE in general is the problem that has existed for nearly 20 years. There's too many rematches, there's nothing to look forward to, Vince has completely forgotten how to effectively use enhancement talent/jobbers in lieu of, I don't know, re-running Big E vs Apollo Crews for the 14th time, and the writing is almost entirely terrible. For fucks sake, it took losing to AEW in the key demo when they're on different nights to hot shot Big E winning the title. That shouldn't be the case. It wouldn't matter how thin each roster is if the writing were any good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Niners Fan in CT Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Roman has no challengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Roman has no challengers. Drew will be a challenger. They can beat that into the ground for a good 4 to 6 months. Sheamus is always close to being a challenger too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: Roman has no challengers. Also, hilariously, with them breaking up Natalya/Tamina and Nox/Blackheart, WWE has one active women's tag team. The champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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