Cowboy Wally Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Some thoughts, now that we are (with any luck) at the point where the dumpster fire will start to burn itself out. #1 - As the aggrieved party, Martin gets to handle this however he wants to. Caveat - if his allegations turn out to be true. The evidence so far is predominantly in his favor. However, there's a lot of he said, he said going on. NFL investigators are investigating, Incognito's filed an official grievance and NFLPA is backing him up. I am as interested as anybody in seeing what else gets dug up. #2 As Martin gets to handle this his way, it's too bad so sad for the Dolphins that they have lost (possibly permanently) two starting offensive linemen,and suffered massive disruption. Better control over the locker room would have avoided this. #3 Because of the way Martin handled this, his chances of getting another job in the NFL are lessened dramatically. Maybe he doesn't care about that. It's his decision, but it doesn't look like other NFL clubs are looking to bring him in. I could be wrong on this, of course, and welcome any evidence to the contrary. Incognito's chances of getting another job in the NFL because of this are probably a touch lower, but not more than that. Teams that don't and never wanted him (thinking specifically of the Colts and Dungy's statement that Incognito was on their do not draft because of character list) still don't want him. Teams that would sign him are still there (with the possible exception of Miami). #4 As mentioned, Martin gets to handle it however he wants. The fact remains that there were other ways to handle it, ways that might have solved the issue and kept him on the team. I am not saying necessarily that, if things were that bad, Martin popping Incognito in the snoot gets everybody a happy ending, but that's certainly a possible outcome. Maybe a personal conversation in which salty sailor talk was used early and often, or a public statement that Martin wasn't going to take it anymore, and the next guy who tried something was going to regret it would have worked. It's all speculation at this point, but what's absolutely true is that Martin's professional lively hood is in more jeopardy with his actual course of action than it might have been otherwise. #5 Final speculation - Given that Martin is as big as he is, it might well be that he never got picked on prior to going to Dolphins. I have no idea how I would have responded to being picked on for the first time at age 23, rather than at age 6, and continuing into my early-mid teens. I think the people who are asking the question "Why didn't he just hit him"? are those who had to figure out what to do at a much earlier age, and whether or not it worked out for them. Kudos to the gentleman who came up with the thread title. It's gold. Cowboy Wally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The two teams that have been mentioned as possible landing spots for Martin are Indianapolis and San Francisco. Both have strong Stanford ties--Indy with OC Pep Hamilton with Andrew Luck as QB and Coby Fleener as TE, and SF with former Stanford HC Jim Harbaugh in charge and being a stone's throw from Palo Alto. I'm not sure either team is interested, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 And Andrew Luck was one of the Stanford guys who came out strongly in support of Martin so the QB having his back would definitely help. And I think Chuck Pagano would be a perfect coach to help him. But them having interest is a totally different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Honestly, I think the far more interesting list is the one for Incognito when/if he gets released. Assuming he doesn't get suspended by Goddell for the rest of the season, I can easily see Denver picking him up as you can never have enough protection for Peyton's brittle ankles. Or even the Patriots as Dr. Evil will just take the entire Dolphins playbook out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 And Andrew Luck was one of the Stanford guys who came out strongly in support of Martin so the QB having his back would definitely help. And I think Chuck Pagano would be a perfect coach to help him. But them having interest is a totally different story I think they'll look at the possiblity. The Colts' O-line is shoddy and Luck takes way too many hits for any fan to be comfortable. If they he can help and Luck vouches for him, Irsay and Grigson will at least consider it. Not saying it will happen, but the door is open, ever so slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Report: Richie Incognito Also Harassed A Dolphins Staff MemberOops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Clearly that staffer needed toughening up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 THAT STAFFER IS DISRUPTING THE DOLPHINS SEASON I JUST WANT HIM AWAY FROM THE TEAM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 THAT STAFFER IS DISRUPTING THE DOLPHINS SEASON I JUST WANT HIM AWAY FROM THE TEAM LOL . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Dolfan has lost his smile over this. I hope all of you are happy about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Since declaring war on the AFC East (minus the noble Patriots and Handsome Tom) I am indeed happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 For using the phrase "noble Patriots", I'm giving you some warning points, once I figure out how to use more than the pin and unlock buttons!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 For using the phrase "noble Patriots", I'm giving you some warning points, once I figure out how to use more than the pin and unlock buttons!!!!! Especially given the lack of shit your giving the common enemy of all mankind, the JEST. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Report: Richie Incognito Also Harassed A Dolphins Staff Member Oops. Since that was a short approach, he only needed a 9-iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Richie Incognito and the Miami Dolphins have agreed to continue Richie's suspension, only now, he'll be paid. This avoids all CBA problems the Dolphins had and pretty much puts the findings of the interminable investigation as the only thing left.... ...Until of course, Martin files a workplace harrassment complaint against the Dolphins and the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Martin was put on the non football related illness list, ending his season officially. He still gets paid. I think it opens the roaster spot up for the Fins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 It is being reported that Joe Philbin wanted to release Incognito after the 2012 sexual harassment incident at the charity golf tournament, but was overruled by the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Here's a photo for Dolfan to use when thisstory takes its next turn. @EarthPix: 140 year old mom, with 5 day old son. http://t.co/iGEeKPYHEx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 So, the latest report: Incognito will have his suspension with pay extended to the end of the season. At which point he becomes a free agent and will go to another team. Martin is also gone. He'll be traded to the highest bidder (lol). When (not if) the Dolphins receive no offers for him, they will release him where someone may snatch him up on the cheap. Though interest has been lukewarm. The independent report was originally expected around today, now it's not expected until after the Super Bowl. No one knows what the findings will be, but yesterday was the first time I've ever read that "Incognito's actions did not amount to/constitute bullying" is a possible finding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 http://deadspin.com/report-the-dolphins-are-a-dysfunctional-mess-behind-th-1497770963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Kittens in 5, 4, 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I don't care. Ireland is out. Haters gonna hate. Kittens gonna kitten. For the record, I knew about Dawn Aponte before this. She is essentially doing the hard part of the GM's job (cutting players for cap space, deciding who to draft, taking heat for personnel decisions, etc.) and played bad cop to Ireland's good cop. She's an iron-clad bitch. No questions asked, but she's good at her job. And frankly, she's not going to ask potential draft picks if their mom's were prostitutes or tell victims of mental torture to suck it up. Mark my words, she will be the first female GM in the NFL by the end of the decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 KITTENS GONNA KITTEN totally needs to be someone's tattoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 And Dolfan makes a strong case for the Cuddly Crown in 2015! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I don't care. Ireland is out. Haters gonna hate. Kittens gonna kitten. For the record, I knew about Dawn Aponte before this. She is essentially doing the hard part of the GM's job (cutting players for cap space, deciding who to draft, taking heat for personnel decisions, etc.) and played bad cop to Ireland's good cop. She's an iron-clad bitch. No questions asked, but she's good at her job. And frankly, she's not going to ask potential draft picks if their mom's were prostitutes or tell victims of mental torture to suck it up. Mark my words, she will be the first female GM in the NFL by the end of the decade. What was Amy Trask's title in oakland? Prez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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