John from Cincinnati Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Goodear said: PPV is in 2 weeks and they've barely got the card together. Build is terrible. Only thing that got more than 3 weeks build is Bucks-Mox/Eddie. This feels like a bit of a stretch. Pinnacle-Inner Circle and Sting/Darby vs ScorPage Sky have definitely been issues simmering a little bit longer, even if the latter spent a while on the back burner. Britt had been campaigning for the title shot for a while it seems. I guess people could stretch and say Cody vs the Factory has been going on for a bit, even though the Ogogo deal came together quick. Definitely not the best build though. Especially obvious at the top, where the world title bout is just hot nothing. But I'm sure the people who come out for this will be tickled by OC's one-trick-pony act, for whatever that's worth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, matt925 said: Dave rants about this a lot. They spend $20 million per year on the performance center and get baron corbin out of it. They could just use that money and sign famous people. They could just take that money and overspend on people developed by AEW. WWE is going to figure that out one day. It's gonna be a fun discussion when they do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKothoga Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Goodear said: PPV is in 2 weeks and they've barely got the card together. Build is terrible. Only thing that got more than 3 weeks build is Bucks-Mox/Eddie. Come on, that's just hating for the sake of wanting to hate. Britt challenging for the title started after St. Patrick's Day Slam in March (though it sucks that the build up is all about Britt and nothing about Shida). Brian Cage being a roadblock for Hangman started one month ago. Sting/Darby vs. Scorpio/Ego started with Scorpio losing to Darby in March. Cody vs. QT and his peers started in March (though the USA vs. GB comes out of nowhere and can fuck off). And Young Bucks vs. Moxley/Kingston and Inner Circle vs. Pinnacle are obviously going on longer. World title and TNT title haven't really been build up that much, I give you that. I don't think that's a problem with the TNT title, which has been featured just fine in the last weeks, it just isn't woven into a story culminating at the PPV. But your world title being an afterthought is bad. Edited May 20, 2021 by MrKothoga 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) To be honest I quite like the PPV Main Event. Feels like a 90s or 00s hastily thrown together, disposable-but-fun Main that'd come out of nowhere and enjoy a few week build between monthly-PPVs. They can build to the next big narrative afterwards. The Omega/Moxley run was pretty drawn out by the end so they need a breather on epic-programs. Didn't see last night; caught the Bucks on Youtube and their heel stuff does continue to amuse. Could do without that shoes silliness at the end there - bit too much vaudeville going on there. That Mox/Acclaimed segment was absolute gold - they should have put it on AEW. Absolutely smoking it. Edited May 20, 2021 by A_K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Shida and Deeb both being more serious and vicious on the same show. Got to love it. Sensing heel vibes from Shida too though, can't turn them both can they? Britt's too good as a heel for a turn already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I'm glad Miro is the TNT champ, because the inevitable Miro/Kingston match will only be sweetened by stakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I watched last night and i'm trying to remember the show from the night before, normally when I write these reviews I write them as Im watching so bare with me on this one ... Christian Cage vs Matt Sydal was really good. Smart move using Christians TNA theme it works, it fits Christian who since returning in March has been really good. He hasn't lost a step in 7 years and It's cool to see these first time match ups like this one against Matt Sydal. I like these 10 plus minute openers AEW does. They are fun and it's cool to see a show start with hard hitting matches and not in ring promos. I popped when Malenko and Jericho referenced the 1004 Holds segment from Nitro. Ricky Starks looked like a million bucks and cut a hell of a promo. That kids gonna be a star. Christian vs Team Taz, i've been liking this feud so far. If you turn down Team taz they make your life a living hell. Christian would be a good first opponent for Hook. Adam Page was gold with the hold my drink spot with Starks, Starks being a stick man while healing from his neck injury might lead to some fun moments and he has two feuds coming back in with Christian and Page after this segments. I know the Dark Order ran in because of their affiliation with Page but Christain is gonna need some strength in numbers in this Tea Taz feud and Dark Order has the numbers. That Varisty Blondes promo was aces way to build to the main the hungry faces calling out the arrogant heel champions. I thought last weeks Wild Thing was more fitting to Mox than this weeks Wild Thing works for Rick Vaughn but John Moxley is no Rick Vaughn. The match itself was really good. Moxley and Kingston are great together, Not only oner promos which they are killing it at week in and week out but they have really been gelling well as a team. This match was no expection, but The Acclaim are a great team in their own right and I think they could have a good match with anyone. Casters line about Oral Sessions boy oh boy that was 04 Cena if I ever heard 04 Cena. Bowens is a good friend cuz that right he ate was a receipt for Casters line. Dynamite and AEW have their faults but one thing they are really good at is building up to matches those promos both teams cut on each other before the break going into this were really good. Made you wanna stay tuned for the match. After the last 3 or 4 weeks of run in and blatant attacks on Darby Aliin and Sting it was inevitable we were gonna get a tag match at Double Or Nothing. I'm excited to see Sting in an Actual match in almost 6 years. It's been since September of 15 against Seth Rollins. Hopefully no one buckle bombs Sting this time. The Pinnacle in the restaurant, I thought it was a good promo. On the Horseman Tribute Act scale Pinnacle is more Evolution than it is Fortune to me so thats a good thing. It's funny to me that Rebel was hired to be the make up artist backstage not a wrestler and through a series of circumstances becomes an on air character and occasional wrestler. Granted she was in there with Shida and the match was kept short but she's gone a long way since the Shelly Martinez match. Of course this was all to build to Baker vs Shida at DON with Baker hitting a Curbstomp on Shida after the bell. Shida has had a title run she can hang her hat on she's coming up on a year and Year plus a week when DON comes I think Baker has proven over the last year it's time for her to have a run with the title. Kenny and Don are really going out of their way to get Orange Cassidy out of the match maybe they believe Cassidy is more of a threat then they are leading on. This segment was entertaining but maybe further proof that this doesn't have to be a triple threat nothing against Pac but the segment could have existed without Pac being involved int he match. I think Christian Cage is winning the Casino Battle Royal getting the All Out title match, I know last year was different but I think thats what they are doing based on solely on thats how they did it in 19, last year they had the Casino Ladder Match. They could have had Cassidy winning last week getting the Title Shot. Pac wins the battle Royal getting the DON title match and Then Christian could get a title match on the Fyter Fest edition of Dynamite. That Inner Circle promo was really good. I'm really digging this faction war it feels personal on both sides. This years Stadium Stampede looks to be more violent and less cheeky than last years, I'd be ok with that. I'm interested in seeing if The Inner Circle lose the match and break up. It sure looks like it's going that way. an Inner Circle win looks like it would kill Pinnacles heat right now as base don TV presentation they are the top heel faction in the Promotion (sorry BCLITE). Why would Jade concern her self with a knob like Sterling? Selina de la Renta is a free agent and I don't know if Strong Sexy Women ever being managed by another Strong Sexy Women has ever been done in wrestling before, maybe now is the time. It was nice to see Sareena Deeb back in action. Her and Red Velvet had a really good television match a really good match in general. Velvet has really came into her own and Deeb is like the Malenko of the Women's Division and thats a really good thing. Maybe she's more so the Ultimo Dragon as she's defending an outside title but another really good wrestler to be compared to nonetheless. Pac as the pissed off little man with the mean streak is awesome. He promo was awesome, he made some great points he was been under looked fucked he's being under looked in this upcoming Triple Threat. Ogogo looked like an absolute killer, Gunn spitting out blood and the ref stopping the match was a nice touch. Thats how you build a new star. So now we know who he is beating Cody at DON . He gonna beat Cody to a bloody pulp until the ref stops the match and really I think it's gonna work. Kazarian vowing to rip the BCLITE's collective hearts out was a great promo. Daniels dejected, Kaz hiding his face with his ball cap in shame, they are finally making the Bucks turning heel feel special and the Bucks are finally feeling like they are heels, on'y took them a month plus I think Mox and Kingston are organically getting an ally in their crusade. That Miro promo and back and forth with Archer made up for all the Kip Sabian stuff. That match was gonna be wild. The Main Event was really good. The Varsity Blondes were great int heir role as the fiery undercard babyfaces. After that Brian Pillman Darkside of the Ring there's no way Jr is gonna be a heel anytime soon. The Bucks really heeled it up in this. The Blondes got a lot of offense in, they looked really good. The Bucks really made them in this match. The cold spray to the eyes being the new finish for the Bucks is probably the best heel tactic they could do. I liked that it almost backfired with that Schoolboy from Pillman. Serves them right they got their shoes stolen. The Bucks have to lose to Moxley and Kingston at DON. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Web Conn said: Why would Jade concern her self with a knob like Sterling? Selina de la Renta is a free agent and I don't know if Strong Sexy Women ever being managed by another Strong Sexy Women has ever been done in wrestling before, maybe now is the time. This is better than literally every in-house option. Me want. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnatural Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Bowens working the leg and Kingston selling for a bit like in his debut TNT title challenge was good shit Loved the Pillman promo. Shutting up for now to finish the rest of Dynamite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Yeah dude, the line about "That man kept me AWAY..." whew, doggy. That deserves all the love in the world. 6 minutes ago, Hayabusa said: Bowens working the leg and Kingston selling for a bit like in his debut TNT title challenge was good shit Loved the Pillman promo. Shutting up for now to finish the rest of Dynamite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Ratings AEW: 821,000 18-49: 0.28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Did that ramp bump really turn people off the product? They went from a 1.2 to a .8 in 6 weeks they’ve been solid shows, what’s going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, D.Z said: Ratings AEW: 821,000 18-49: 0.28 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the former AEW fan Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Weren't they going up against Lebron vs Curry in a playoff play-in game? Edited May 20, 2021 by El Gran Gordi 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, El Gran Gordi said: Weren't they going up against Lebron vs Curry in a playoff play-in game? Yes on the west coast so yeah that attributed but it was down from last week. The rating is going have to go up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Goodear said: Hi new person Julia Hart we have never seen before, our heels are going to spray you in the eyes during your first appearance! No you won't get to do anything before or after! She wrestled Britt on Dynamite like last week? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Regarding the rating: besides anyone watching the Lakers, do you think it's a matter of that ~180-200K segment of the audience saying to themselves: taped show, not a card where a lot of the finishes are in question, go-home for the PPV is next week, this one's a skip? Like, it's unquestionably a drop-off, but I'm also not necessarily seeing anything on last night's card that was must-see for a non-weekly, I guess "casual" (but not casual in THAT sense) Dynamite viewer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Austin Gunn got some inter-generational karma for his dad's treatment of Ken Shamrock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I mean, I know he's had Parkinson's for a bit, and I guess I just choose not to think about it, but, man, it still broke my fucking heart seeing Dean's arm shake during that promo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custos Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 To @Zakk_Sabbaths point, we haven’t yet seen enough of a sample of unopposed AEW viewership to get a sense of the swings, so it’s hard to determine whether drops are indications of more permanent erosion or if there’s a subset who are dialled in to the goings-on enough to be aware of a hot card versus a ‘breather’ card and avoid the latter. As for the show itself, my favourite part was probably The Accliamed interaction with Mox and Kingston and Deeb being amazing. Seeing the Varsity Blondes start to come into their own is a pleasure too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I think it's partly weaker card and partly 5.6 million people watching basketball (or about to watch basketball). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 13 hours ago, AxB said: She wrestled Britt on Dynamite like last week? I must have blinked and missed it. How'd she do? Did she lose in less than 2 minutes? Oh she did? This isn't really a big deal as she's clearly a nothing but something to add to the look of a Jobber to the Stars tag team. But she's not being given a chance, neither are the Blondes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, John from Cincinnati said: This feels like a bit of a stretch. Pinnacle-Inner Circle and Sting/Darby vs ScorPage Sky have definitely been issues simmering a little bit longer, even if the latter spent a while on the back burner. Britt had been campaigning for the title shot for a while it seems. I guess people could stretch and say Cody vs the Factory has been going on for a bit, even though the Ogogo deal came together quick. Definitely not the best build though. Especially obvious at the top, where the world title bout is just hot nothing. But I'm sure the people who come out for this will be tickled by OC's one-trick-pony act, for whatever that's worth. I honestly forgot about the Pinnacle-Inner Circle deal which is a mistake. Their build has been really accelerated which I think we can all agree that we're already at a second whole stable gimmick match which could break up one of the factions but its not three week accelerated. The 'simmer' for the Scorpio deal stems from the heel turn months ago but I wouldn't say it was the start of the build since they went months with nothing and they really just started interacting with the stairs deal three weeks ago. The Factory build led to the Ogogo angle but they are so divorced from each other with such different motivations that it's really a new angle. The whole Nationalist stuff seems to have nothing to do with QT Marshall feeling disrespected. So is it the same storyline? EDIT: One of the reasons for the "3 week build" argument on my part is the way AEW structures its shows so maybe a build has been going on for five weeks of actual time but the participants have interacted on 3 occasions. Edited May 21, 2021 by Goodear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the former AEW fan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Never let the actual facts get in the way of your hating! Edited May 21, 2021 by El Gran Gordi 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) This was cool. Good seeing Dean Malenko on TV again. Fuck Parkinson's disease. That Oral Sessions Line and AEWah! Edited May 21, 2021 by The Natural 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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