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35 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

Tony Khan said on Unrestricted that the Women's Casino Battle Royale will return at All Out

Also - he anticipates a "roster expansion" due to the new TV show

Wait a new TV show?  To the 3 they already have?

As far as the "why can't it just be a debate or interview", this is even more proof that they do things just like WWE as well.  WWE likes to use special words or phrases that nobody uses in real life.  So does AEW

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4 hours ago, hammerva said:

Those are two phrases I was hoping I would never see in wrestling:  "workshopped" and "focus group-tested"  

Afraid to find the people in that focus group

 

"Oh, you thought my promo sucked shit?  Well a focus group liked it, so who feels stupid now?"

I generally like AEW but their weird thin-skinnedness about their missteps is off-putting.

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12 hours ago, Web Conn said:

Is Golden Boy still employed by AEW? Maybe he should be a commentator on Rampage. I say Excalibur Golden Boy and Taz.

I don't see him on their roster page and considering how long it's been I don't think he's still with them.  That and I think he signed on recently for G4 so among the other stuff he's doing I don't think AEW's part of his immediate plans.

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2 minutes ago, MoeCristyV.1.6 said:

They have exactly 1 TV show at the moment. 

Technically that is true.  But having 2 TV shows and still having 2 Youtube shows seems like overkill   I guess they are basing this off old NWA that had 3 or 4 different shows at one time.  But at least all but 1 was an hour long.   Some times Dark and Elevation is longer than Dynamite

 

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3 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said:

I don't see him on their roster page and considering how long it's been I don't think he's still with them.  That and I think he signed on recently for G4 so among the other stuff he's doing I don't think AEW's part of his immediate plans.

Makes sense. I don’t remember seeing him since the Full Gear 19 Buy In. I’m a Mauro fan I dig his style. His WWE stuff wasn’t bad he was different than your standard WWE announcer and that was the problem he didn’t fit what McMahon believes a commentator should be. Mairo during Tyson vs Jones Jr reminded me of how good he could be. When he was just straight up calling the matches on New Japan on AXS he was at his best. If they are gonna bring in somebody new for Rampage I think Mauro and Taz would be ga great team for your 10pm Second Show.  

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3 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

So Cody is doing a media call for the PPV and he just took a question from Izzy

So... yeah....

It took me some googling to figure out that you were not talking about the NE indy guy.

And here I thought it was really nice that Insane Dragon had a media career.

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Veterans, focus group.... Same thing. Just shut up, Cody... 

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Missed the name of the guy up next. He asks about Cody workshopping the AMERICA promo with a focus group. Cody says all of the Roman & Sasha Banks avatars made fun of him for saying "focus group" and he apologizes for using the term incorrectly. Says he ran the promo by veterans.

 

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The question before was about the report that the EVPs weren’t getting along 

He said it was made up because NXT lost the ratings war which... certainly is a take

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45 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

So Cody is doing a media call for the PPV and he just took a question from Izzy

So... yeah....

She's been doing a podcast or YouTube thing for a few years. Shit, she's worked indie shows. I was watching an Effy vs Leva Bates match and that was all about Effy heeling on Izzy and Leva getting revenge for her.

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heeling, not beeping. Ducking autocorrect!
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Bands used to tour as a loss leader to encourage record sales, because that's where the money was. Now they release new songs as a way of promoting upcoming tours, because that's where the money is now.

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31 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

The question before was about the report that the EVPs weren’t getting along 

He said it was made up because NXT lost the ratings war which... certainly is a take

The more I read about/hear what Cody says the more it bums me out anymore.  He still to me seems like a good person but regarding wrestling/AEW this is not the Cody I thought super highly of when he left WWE.

This statement in particular is a definition of 2 + 4 = 10.

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2 hours ago, alstein said:

I mean, if AEW wanted enhancement matches with a crowd, they could send their talent and camera crews to an indy area and tape matches on a Friday or Sunday, and then let the talent work the indy Saturday and put the indy guys over on their show.

I don't think that's a great idea. The production and look of indys varies wildly. There are a few purposes of the enhancement shows, and one is to build their content library. They aren't going to want a lot of weird indy feds that might have shitty rings or poor medical practices (you'd be surprised how wild west some states out there are) in their content library. Plus you run the risk of your guys picking up bad habits from poorly trained indy guys that you don't want them picking up. I mean unless you are sending the AEW coaches with them. But that's basically hijacking a show built on someone else's money, I don't think you'll find a lot of promoters okay with that.

They also use the win-loss records from the enhancement shows. So they certainty aren't going to want their guys putting over the indy guys and showing up on Dynamite 2-15 on the year.

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46 minutes ago, Wyld Samurai said:

WCW also thought it was passe to save it for a PPV. 

WCW didn't get a rights fee. Their main source of income was ticket sales and PPV sales, making that a stupid move for WCW.

AEW gets the majority of their income on rights fees (WWE too). It's a whole new world compared to 1990s WCW. But what AEW is doing is what the new model of wrestling looks like. They make their most money off of TV companies paying them for TV, so why "save it for the PPV" when they make more off of the TV? Just have to adapt your mind to the changing landscape of the business.

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17 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

I don't think that's a great idea. The production and look of indys varies wildly. There are a few purposes of the enhancement shows, and one is to build their content library. They aren't going to want a lot of weird indy feds that might have shitty rings or poor medical practices (you'd be surprised how wild west some states out there are) in their content library. Plus you run the risk of your guys picking up bad habits from poorly trained indy guys that you don't want them picking up. I mean unless you are sending the AEW coaches with them. But that's basically hijacking a show built on someone else's money, I don't think you'll find a lot of promoters okay with that.

They also use the win-loss records from the enhancement shows. So they certainty aren't going to want their guys putting over the indy guys and showing up on Dynamite 2-15 on the year.

 

I was saying run a show  on the road in a small building with their crew, use local indy guys as the jobbers, then have competitive matches with the indy guys on the indy show.

 

 

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6 hours ago, hammerva said:

Those are two phrases I was hoping I would never see in wrestling:  "workshopped" and "focus group-tested"  

Afraid to find the people in that focus group

 

Workshopping, focus groups, strained Batman references, saying dumb things on media calls.  Guys, remember when I said Cody might just  be kind of a doofus who actually does not understand pro wrestling?  Yep.

It's funny how, when AEW started, people were worried that Kenny was some anime/video game weeaboo goofball and the Bucks were indy spot monkeys, and that they'd be too self-indulgent and build this thing in their image and it would be not so great.  Now the Bucks and Kenny are the more restrained, sticking-to-their-roles, old school acts in the company while the guy with the pro wrestling pedigree is out here dressing like Picard, pretending to be various Superfriends, and just doing his own thing to the point of embarrassment.

2 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said:

The "focus group" is Brandi, the dog, QT, whichever Gunn kid got to borrow the brain that day and maybe Kenny Omega playing his Wonderswan in the corner. They're sitting on the floor in what's going to be the baby's room, barely furnished (the crib looks like two rings and a War Games cage. There is a roof). Cody is wearing nothing but a Versace bathrobe with several cigar burns on it and a set-worn Batman mask that Stephen Amell gave him for his birthday years ago. The group has told him four times already that the promo is good enough. If that's the case, Cody asks, then why has nobody cried yet?

I have embroidered this post, framed it, and put it on the wall in my study.

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When things go back to house shows, it will be interesting how they are taping these 4 shows?   I would assume Dynamite and Rampage will be in different locations.   If they do Elevation tapings on one show and Dark tapings on another show then they will need to shorten those shows.   While it was cool to see more than one dark match a show, seeing almost 90 minute show after sitting through a Dynamite taping was excessive. 

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UFC runs Three hour PPVs/ Televised supercars with a two hour pre-show and a one hour pre-pre-show like 40 weeks a year. And whilst most of the fans only turn up for the main card, there are some who are in their seats for match one. Including some celeb fans, like Anthony Keidis and (when he was alive) Michael Clark Duncan).

So running a 90 minute Dark taping before Dynamite starts and letting fans arrive during it is an option, is what I'm saying.

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