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31 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Wasn't Pillman Sr. about to be involved in right wing talk radio? I seem to recall someone from that group being friends with him. So, maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Eh, that's hard to believe. When Pillman died, right wing talk radio consisted of Rush, Glen Beck, and Hannity. I can't see anyone giving a shit about a drugged up wrestler doing talk radio.

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2 hours ago, Spontaneous said:

I had hoped that after Hana's death and other incidents that some people would learn to consider what they say online. But nope, people are awful. 

Well on one hand you have people that were “radicalized” by social media leading them to act like twats and exposing themselves. 
 

On the other hand you have people who have always been twats we may have never known exposing themselves. 
 

Keeping the artist separate from the art is dead. 

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1 minute ago, RRR said:

Well on one hand you have people that were “radicalized” by social media leading them to act like twats and exposing themselves. 
 

On the other hand you have people who have always been twats we may have never known exposing themselves. 
 

Keeping the artist separate from the art is dead. 

I still watch Klaus Kinski films for leisure.  Probably says something negative about me as a person.

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53 minutes ago, nate said:

I still watch Klaus Kinski films for leisure.  Probably says something negative about me as a person.

We'd need to know more. For example, if you watch Klaus Kinski films where Werner Herzog is clearly trying to kill him, obviously that makes you a) an awesome person and b) probably a fan of Japanese deathmatches.

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1 hour ago, odessasteps said:

Well, Pillman was a regular on a radio show in Cincinnati (Bill Armstrong?)  And given it was the mid 90s, the odds are it skewed conservative. 

I think that was the guy on the WWE Pillman doc, which is where I heard about this. 

Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo are so good that I can excuse Herzog. Also, watching My Best Fiend helps. 

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Now you Commie fucks are hating on Yuengling? 

God, does anyone actually talk about wrestling any more in between all the virtue signaling around here?

"No politics" my arse. Whining about QAnons and whatnot when some of you really think the 4th Reich is ready to spring up any second if you don't preach the good word of Rachel Maddow on your wrestling discussion board. Some wrestlers don't agree with the Church of the Donkey on Covid? I DON'T FUCKING CARE.

God, the worst thing the internet's done in the last 20 years is make the people into their own propagandists...

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47 minutes ago, The Comedian said:

Now you Commie fucks are hating on Yuengling? 

God, does anyone actually talk about wrestling any more in between all the virtue signaling around here?

"No politics" my arse. Whining about QAnons and whatnot when some of you really think the 4th Reich is ready to spring up any second if you don't preach the good word of Rachel Maddow on your wrestling discussion board. Some wrestlers don't agree with the Church of the Donkey on Covid? I DON'T FUCKING CARE.

God, the worst thing the internet's done in the last 20 years is make the people into their own propagandists...

Yuengling sucks outside of politics.

Anyway, you'll get over it, sunshine. The Comedian was tough enough to take getting thrown out of a high-rise window like a man, you can live with the fact that people vocally disagree with whatever shit you believe without crying about...uh, Rachel Maddow? OK, that's an interesting boogeyman you've conjured up...all over a message board. 

Stop virtue signaling about how you'd never virtue signal and talk wrestling or whatever, but quit whining. 

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7 hours ago, odessasteps said:

Well, Pillman was a regular on a radio show in Cincinnati (Bill Armstrong?)  And given it was the mid 90s, the odds are it skewed conservative. 

Most decent sized media markets at the time tried to have their own local Rush Limbo or Howard Stern, Pillman could have fit into either slot. 

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Considering the levels of work within work that Pillman Sr's gimmick had, there's every chance that his big plan was to do Stephen Colbert's fake right ridiculousness routine, and see if anyone noticed. Besides which, if someone in 90s America was trying to make it as a leftist shockjock, would they actually be able to get any work?

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There's like 1 or 2 IG dedicated to chronologically going through the career of Stone Cold and  one of them is up the spring of 2001 after his heel turn. I know he says he regrets turning heel in hindsight but I thought he was dope as a heel, up until the KoTR when he injured his back and had to rely on comedy. If Rock was still full time during the first few months he would've helped to because he would've had a big enough babyface opposing him. That 2 man power trip was dope too, until Hunter got injured. But as far as Austin, he did alot of dastardly things to make sure he was received as a heel like beat Lita with the chair. And he and Hunter seemed like he were trying to get The Hardys Benoit and Jericho over. I also think the Invasion angle kinda messed up his heel run too. He and Angle switching Babyface and heel.

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4 hours ago, L_W_P said:

If WWE gave us THIS kind of stuff on a weekly basis their stars would be so much bigger/brighter.

This makes a super human weight trainer like John Cena feel like a dude at my local gym. Someone I could see and get tips from. Someone I can RELATE too. I'm way more invested in this match (No idea if it's Rock 1 or Rock 2) than I was with the Fruity Pebbles, "See ya in Hollywood", You are a part timer blah blah BS they actually put on RAW at the time.

That was a great clip and doing more like this can't do anything but improve the WWE --- 

--- BUT ---

--- for me, I don't want to "relate" to these rasslers. I want them to be bigger than life. I want them to occupy a world I can't even imagine, and to think of them in mundane terms (Terry Funk going to the DMV? Abdullah the Butcher collects Star Wars dolls? Baron Von Raschke trained as a plumber?) makes them seem less special, and makes it harder to suspend my disbelief. This is my (old-timer?) view, the mileage on your Model T may vary. This ties in with the social media debate of above as well.

- RAF

 

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(Y'know, when the post you are replying to is not on the last page, I almost always get confused and think that it didn't post. Like this here double post.)

Spontaneous wrestling thought: 

Inspired by the late great Lawrence Ferlinghetti's monumental poem collection "A Coney Island Of The Mind" (1958), I will title my next collection of prosody, doggerel and haiku "A Clash Of Champions Of The Mind". Or "A Coney Island Of The Squared Circle". Which is better?

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1 hour ago, GuerrillaMonsoon said:

Does Rachel Maddow like missile dropkicks?

I have no idea who that is, nor do I  have  a need to find out, and yet, I absolutely refuse to live in a world where she doesn't!

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