Your New Bright and Shiny HOF Thread

[odessasteps]

Was talking to someone from Cooperstown who said he bet current immigration/visa protocols cost them 40% drop in attendance for HOF weekend. And even then, he said he bet 40% of the turnout was for Ichiro. 

Edited July 29, 2025 by odessasteps

[odessasteps]

 

[RIPPA]

 

[elizium]

I'd put all of them in, except Delgado and Kent, and honestly a persuasive argument could sway me on those two. #bighall

[sabremike]

No Keith Hernandez is such bullshit.

[Tabe]

1 hour ago, sabremike said:

No Keith Hernandez is such bullshit.

John Olerud was better. 

[Tabe]

16 hours ago, Tabe said:

John Olerud was better. 

More homers, higher OBP, higher slugging, higher OPS+, higher peak seasons, 98% of the defense. 

Yeah, Olerud was better. Which is why neither of them belongs in the Hall. 

[sabremike]

A reminder that Keith was deliberately traded to the Mets (who he and his Cardinals teammates mocked by calling them the 'Stems') as punishment by the Cardinals when they found out about his drug use as it was the Devil's Island of baseball and had been since the Midnight Massacre. This would end up one of the biggest backfires ever as just over 3 years later the Mets went from THE laughingstock of the sport to World Champions and that never happens without Keith. Also was a co-MVP and has more gold gloves than any first baseman in history.

[supremebve]

19 hours ago, elizium said:

I'd put all of them in, except Delgado and Kent, and honestly a persuasive argument could sway me on those two. #bighall

Based on recent history, that means Delgado and Kent will get in, but one of the better players will make it.

[sabremike]

36 minutes ago, Tabe said:

More homers, higher OBP, higher slugging, higher OPS+, higher peak seasons, 98% of the defense. 

Yeah, Olerud was better. Which is why neither of them belongs in the Hall. 

Found George Costanza's burner account!!!

[Dolfan in NYC]

I was wondering why Sheff hadn't made it in, until I was reminded he and Barry Bonds were off-season workout partners.  

[Cobra Commander]

10 minutes ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

I was wondering why Sheff hadn't made it in, until I was reminded he and Barry Bonds were off-season workout partners.  

even without that, Sheff is also a guy who was a notorious PITA for media back then. He's likely mellowed a bit over time. Also the whole "intentionally playing third base so bad to get moved" thing

[sabremike]

3 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

I was wondering why Sheff hadn't made it in, until I was reminded he and Barry Bonds were off-season workout partners.  

Wasn't he actually named in one of the reports?

[Tabe]

6 hours ago, sabremike said:

A reminder that Keith was deliberately traded to the Mets (who he and his Cardinals teammates mocked by calling them the 'Stems') as punishment by the Cardinals when they found out about his drug use as it was the Devil's Island of baseball and had been since the Midnight Massacre. This would end up one of the biggest backfires ever as just over 3 years later the Mets went from THE laughingstock of the sport to World Champions and that never happens without Keith. Also was a co-MVP and has more gold gloves than any first baseman in history.

I'm thinking Doc and Darryl might have been just a little more important to the turnaround than Hernandez. Gary Carter, too. 

[sabremike]

6 minutes ago, Tabe said:

I'm thinking Doc and Darryl might have been just a little more important to the turnaround than Hernandez. Gary Carter, too. 

I'm thinking you have no idea what you are talking about but will note Carter is justly in the HOF and Doc and Darryl literally destroyed what should've been slam dunk HOF careers with drugs. Take any of those guys out of the equation and the 86 championship never happens, but Keith was the turning point, then came Doc, Darryl and Davey, then Carter ended up the final piece of the puzzle.

[Tabe]

1 hour ago, sabremike said:

I'm thinking you have no idea what you are talking about but will note Carter is justly in the HOF and Doc and Darryl literally destroyed what should've been slam dunk HOF careers with drugs. Take any of those guys out of the equation and the 86 championship never happens, but Keith was the turning point, then came Doc, Darryl and Davey, then Carter ended up the final piece of the puzzle.

I mean, sure, Keith before Darryl in that weird universe where June 1983 is before May 1983.

[sabremike]

19 hours ago, Tabe said:

I mean, sure, Keith before Darryl in that weird universe where June 1983 is before May 1983.

So a minor timeline mistake that in no way takes away from the overall point I made.

Whatever.

 

Anyways, I want Dale Murphy in not just because he deserves it as a player but he (along with Nolan Ryan and Tim Raines) were the two nicest players I ever met.

[RIPPA]

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The 16-member Hall of Fame Board-appointed electorate charged with the review of the Contemporary Baseball Era ballot features Hall of Fame members Fergie Jenkins, Jim Kaat, Juan Marichal, Tony Pérez, Ozzie Smith, Alan Trammell and Robin Yount; major league executives Mark Attanasio, Doug Melvin, Arte Moreno, Kim Ng, Tony Reagins and Terry Ryan; and veteran media members/historians Steve Hirdt, Tyler Kepner and Jayson Stark.

So I now expect between now and Saturday (when the results are announced) people to try and research everyone's thoughts on roid guys

[Cobra Commander]

there won't be any unanimous inductees this year (duh) because... someone voted for just David Wright

[odessasteps]

Jayson Stark said he’s on the committee.

[RIPPA]

18 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

Jayson Stark said he’s on the committee.

So did I - two posts ago

[odessasteps]

That part was hidden when I read the thread earlier. Doh. 

[Cobra Commander]

and the one inductee via the Veterans Committee is Jeff Kent

[RIPPA]

4 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

and the one inductee via the Veterans Committee is Jeff Kent

That might have been the stupidest outcome possible

[Tabe]

2 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

That might have been the stupidest outcome possible

I mean, he belongs, but...