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23 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

Trafficked with Mariana van Zellner on Nat Geo is CRAZY. She managed to work her way into a fentanyl lab in Mexico where the chemist figures out that his recipe is working when his tachycardia picks up due to the fumes. Incredible. 

I was more impressed with her going to fucking Jamaican shanty town for an interview and making it out alive.  She had the good sense not go to Kinsgston without an armed escort.

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Watched the Sick Nick Mondo doc The Trade on Prime. It's really well done. Mondo reflects on his life and career, starting as a kid who filmed all the crazy crap him and his friends did a la Jackass, and then ended up retired in four years from the damage he'd done to his body working in deathmatches. I never watched CZW and there aren't a lot of CZW fans on here so I didn't know he was a legend in his own right. There is a metric ton of footage from those four years so you get to see all the bloodletting and it's pretty wild. They also have all kinds of people saying how much of an influence he was on them. The theme of the film due to that is guilt. Nick clearly has a serious problem with feeling responsible not only for his own pain but the pain of others. Growing up in an apparently religious household doesn't surprise me. He finally seems to come to terms with his legacy by reappearing at a Cage of Death where his biggest follower, Little Rory Mondo, has decided to announce his retirement. I have to admit, the moment they have at the end choked me up. It was about as honest and truthful a wrestling angle I can think of with Rory telling Nick abandoned CZW and Nick telling him he accepts and respects him. Nick even showing up was a bombshell because nobody knew about it. A really great emotional moment. 

And of course this is shot amazingly well because Nick himself is a hell of a director as anyone who watches AEW can testify to. 

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The only problem with the Mondo documentary is the issues we are now hearing about Rory Gulak though.  But it is a very good documentary especially if you are an indie fan.  I was at the Cage of Death where Mondo came back for one night and even though most people had an idea it was happening it still got an incredible reaction 

Watched the Belushi Showtime documentary and maybe I was expecting too much but thought it was kind of lackluster.  Or maybe that it wasn't lackluster it is just that I feel like I have seen it before.  Nothing new really came from it.  More stuff from his pre-SNL days which is great.  The Joe Cocker bit from Lemmings "Woodchuck" is 100 times funnier that him doing Cocker singing With a Little Help From Our Friends

 

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Yeah, if you have seen, say, a Reelz channel Belushi doc you've already got the story. What struck me about the Lemmings version was him belly-flopping flat on the floor and wobbling back and forth on his stomach like a bowl dropped on the floor or something. Just unreal. The love letters are also a nice touch at least. 

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Such a moving documentary. Former Leeds Rhinos Rugby League player, Rob Burrow recently diagnosed with Motor Neuron Disease. Last week his former teammate, Kevin Sinfield did the following to raise funds for research into this wretched disease:

Amazing achievement.

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Watched the HBO documentary on the Bee Gees and I definitely recommend it.   As someone who really thought they were one of the greatest one album wonder, it was pretty interesting.  Before their first breakup, they were almost Beatles like for a 2 or 3 year period in the end of the sixties and some really good songs. Of course the majority of it is about their disco period in 75 to 79.    They talked about the disco backlash (including an appearance of top 40 DJ and ESPN legend Charley Steiner  ) and if you ever need more proof how Disco Demolition Night was one of the most racist/homophobic promotions in sports history this will complete the deal.     Also didn't know how a ton of songs in the early 80's including #1 songs were writtern by the Bee Gees

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22 hours ago, hammerva said:

Watched the HBO documentary on the Bee Gees and I definitely recommend it.   As someone who really thought they were one of the greatest one album wonder, it was pretty interesting.  Before their first breakup, they were almost Beatles like for a 2 or 3 year period in the end of the sixties and some really good songs. Of course the majority of it is about their disco period in 75 to 79.    They talked about the disco backlash (including an appearance of top 40 DJ and ESPN legend Charley Steiner  ) and if you ever need more proof how Disco Demolition Night was one of the most racist/homophobic promotions in sports history this will complete the deal.     Also didn't know how a ton of songs in the early 80's including #1 songs were writtern by the Bee Gees

The disco backlash was totally racist and homophobic, but just as Charley Steiner said in the doc The Bee Gees were insanely over played, I was around 5 years old in that era and I still have memories of wanting to get out of the car whenever The Bee Gees or Andy Gibb came on the radio again and again and again. Also even without the backlash the disco fad would have been gone by 1980, those white suburbanites who were hitting up discos in 1978 and 1979 replaced their polyester pants and gold chains for jeans and cowboys hats in 1980 and 1981 thanks to John Travolta's next flick Urban Cowboy, while the hipper younger set moved onto breakdancing and early hip hop or New Wave.

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7 minutes ago, hammerva said:

So you are saying that it is just like the radio right now.    We talked the overplay of disco and it was definitely the case but is it any worse than current radio where it is guarantee you can hear one song 5 times a day for a good month or two

No idea, I haven't listened to local over the air radio on the regular since 2001.

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Binge watching a really good docu-series on CNBC called Empires of New York.   It is about how New York city rose and kind of fell in the 80's after being in a horrible situation at the end of the 70's.   It is mostly built on the rise of people who benefited from this like Trump and Rudy Giuliani but it also takes about other people who really describes New York in the 80's like Leona Hemsley, John Gotti,  and Ivan Boetsky.    

 

 

 

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Here's two for the true crime buffs

Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer

Premiering on Netflix January 13th 

Finding Yingying 

This one is close to home because I live right outside of town there and watched the whole thing unfold live on TV and in the paper. When they cracked the case it was incredibly shocking. The post-case results are maybe even worse.

It's available for streaming. 

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On 12/13/2020 at 7:35 AM, hammerva said:

Watched the HBO documentary on the Bee Gees and I definitely recommend it.   As someone who really thought they were one of the greatest one album wonder, it was pretty interesting.  Before their first breakup, they were almost Beatles like for a 2 or 3 year period in the end of the sixties and some really good songs. Of course the majority of it is about their disco period in 75 to 79.    They talked about the disco backlash (including an appearance of top 40 DJ and ESPN legend Charley Steiner  ) and if you ever need more proof how Disco Demolition Night was one of the most racist/homophobic promotions in sports history this will complete the deal.     Also didn't know how a ton of songs in the early 80's including #1 songs were writtern by the Bee Gees

Yeah, it's easy to forget how gigantic they were - multiple times.  Their career really had five parts - the early Beatles-esque stuff you mentioned, the dead period of the early 70s, the disco comeback of the mid-late 70s (including being the writers of the #1 song on the Billboard charts for 6 straight months in 1978), the songwriters-only dead period of the early 80s, and the late 80s comeback.  They did HUGE numbers in their non-dead periods.  Their 80s and 90s albums sold millions of copies, their PBS "One Night Only" concert special did gigantic numbers and the live album from it has sold something like 6 million copies.  

The movie was really too short, to be honest. Although it touched on it a bit at the end, their songs for other people was given short shrift.  They had tons of other hits they wrote for people - the theme song to "Grease", anyone? (though that's technically just Barry, I guess) - and they basically ignored their comeback with the "ESP" and "One" albums in the late 80s where they abandoned their falsetto sound and again had chart success.  They also really didn't delve enough into the acrimonious relationship between the three brothers at the end of Maurice and Robin's lives.  

Having said all that, the film is fabulous.  So much amazing footage and one incredible song after another.  The story of the making of "Stayin' Alive"?  Pure gold.  The interviews with the band members?  Great stuff.  I have always unapologetically been a Bee Gees fan - my first "real" album ever was the Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack in 1977 when I was 5 - so to see them get the legends treatment in this movie was just awesome.  

* - Fun fact that I just learned: the Bee Gees' album "Living Eyes", their first post-disco album, which bombed was the first album ever manufactured on CD for demonstration purposes (in 1981).

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Speaking of musical docs, AXSTV (home of Impact and... well, music docs) had a really good one about Alice Cooper on last night. I think it's called Super Duper Alice Cooper if you wanna look it up. Anyway it was pretty good and went from the beginnings in Phoenix to Alice crash landing back in Phoenix after leaving the mental asylum for alcoholism (which I knew about) and ending up caught in a nightmare of cocaine and freebasing (which I didn't), then restarting on MTV during the hair band era. Seemed pretty comprehensive though I missed a chunk of it and have to go back and watch the recording. 

It's funny, all this AXS stuff I watch ends with a Made in Canada credit tacked on the end, or is a British production. Guess they get all this stuff on the cheap from there. 

EDIT: Here you go. It was made in 2014 by Banger Films which is the company of the guys who did the Metal Evolution doc series, the Metal: A Headbanger's Journey movie, Rush and Maiden docs, and apparently a ZZ Top doc that I forgot I watched this year... on AXS haha

 

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I still say, Ringo is going to bury all of them, and at Paul's funeral he's going to spend the entire eulogy shitting on each one for grievances that are unknown to anyone else, and at least 50 years old.  Then pissing out the words "Brian Epstein" on the ground near the coffin. 

It will be glorious. 

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