Ryan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Every show should be that one hour of Nitro that one time that had no wrestling content and was really weird and had Torrie Wilson in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 that's plan Z for the "make Raw 2 hours again so the crowd doesn't die in the last hour" concept.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 6 hours ago, JohnnyJ said: Without going through the laundry list of reasons, I put a lot of thought into whether or not WWE has effectively killed the town. Whether a series of band aids have disguised just how bad it is and what, if anything, would engage the audience. Putting blame on Vince is certainly valid, but simply getting rid of him wont magically make good television. So, what needs to happen? Take a page from Marvel or DC. Realize what originally brought you to the party (comics, actual wrestling) doesn't appeal to younger audiences enough. Create a true universe with larger-than-life characters with stakes on the line (championships, winning money for an orphanage, whatever). Use their resources (WWE Studios, deals with toy companies, etc.) to create content and merchandise that may appeal to a bigger group. Be honest about who can be pushed mainstream. I'm sure WWE has this information in-house. Groom those people and market them consistently. Better use social media and digital tools to create mini-franchises for these possible stars within the larger WWE Universe. There are several wrestlers on the roster who could be superhero types. Roll the dice and see where it goes. The biggest problem for not only WWE, but wrestling at large, is absolutely no growth in the fanbase. There is more wrestling than ever for everyone to watch. No one outside the diehards care. No one even talks about it. Every show is shedding viewers, no matter the promotion. There's being niche, then there's being off the grid. There are two full-time people among the 250+ wrestlers WWE has under contract who are even sniffing non-wrestling success. If wrestling is to grow, a few will need to make it outside the bubble in some way to reach a new audience. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 They could just liquidate the company and run away with the money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Everything should be shorter. Nobody has time for Seth Rollins matches. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Honestly, I think that's the plan in 5-7 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Anyone know what's happened with Billy Jack Haynes? Is he still posting extensive ramblings on Facebook challenging Stone Cold to MMA fights with a $10,000 purse on the line at WrestleMania? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) Was there some miss information about the press conferences in Japan? Earlier in the week it was reported that they’ll have two press conferences. One that turned out to the announcement that NJPW’s parent company bought Stardom, and the other a WWE press conference that might’ve announced NXT Japan. But the later hasn’t materialized. Was it postponed? Edited October 20, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: How to get back to 1998 or 1985: find a Steve Austin or Hulk Hogan. That's it, that's the whole game. When you have the guy at the top that draws new viewers, and is red hot, everything gets hot. I think about this a lot and how it flies in the face of how WWE does things. A generational talent could get signed tomorrow and he/she would spend the next 6 months to a year sitting in developmental waiting to debut on NXT. Then the next 1-2 years in NXT waiting to get the call. If the fans take to him/her add a year so NXT has someone to headline Takeovers. When they do move up to the main roster, unless the office sees you as a top talent you're lucky to get stuck in 50/50 midcard hell. It's a process that is pointless and actually hurts the chances that the generational talent will ever become anything. Meanwhile, AEW comes out of the gate with a Darby Allin type and with a simple message; he's young, he's exciting, and you should care about him. He jumped through 3 years of b.s. and if by unlikely chance he is that generational talent he has the opportunity to get noticed as one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 7:57 PM, LoneWolf&Subs said: Sort of... There was also the Federettes in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: He really wants to be my favourite wrestler. Well done. Respect. I think Ali did the same last time as well. Edited October 20, 2019 by The Natural 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Let Brazzers buy the company. They couldn't do worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, The Natural said: Respect. I think Ali did the same last time as well. Good on him. While I totally get why guys like Bryan would refuse to go based on their personal beliefs (and I have no argument with that either), this seems a more productive way to do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 You know why wrestling hasn’t gone through another boom period? I’ll tell you why. Because nobody on commentary in AEW, or WWE are shouting from the top of their lungs that “So, and so IS THE WRESTLER OF THE 20’s” like they did for Warrior, and Sting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 One of WWE's greatest ever shows. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Burgundy LaRue said: Be honest about who can be pushed mainstream. I'm sure WWE has this information in-house. Groom those people and market them consistently. Better use social media and digital tools to create mini-franchises for these possible stars within the larger WWE Universe. There are several wrestlers on the roster who could be superhero types. Roll the dice and see where it goes. I want a He-Man style cartoon starring Roman Reigns. So many villains from today and yesteryear in the WWE Universe he can battle. Also, a show like Ed, Edd, and Eddy starring The New Day. All the funny characters that appear on UUDD could be kid versions of themselves. Alexa Bliss, Samoa Joe, Sasha, Ember Moon, etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I don't know why WWE hasn't thought to do a Saturday morning lineup on the Network. It could be similar to the Teen NBC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said: I don't know why WWE hasn't thought to do a Saturday morning lineup on the Network. It could be similar to the Teen NBC. Jeez, did you guys forget Camp WWE, or that stop motion animated program? All currently featuring extremely outdated rosters. ...And probably why they haven’t really invested in more original content? It’s because they’ve all bombed, they’re expensive, and no other network wants to pick them up. Also the WWE Network isn’t going to be a channel anytime soon, as they originally wanted. Edited October 20, 2019 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 59 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Jeez, did you guys forget Camp WWE, or that stop motion animated program? All currently featuring extremely outdated rosters. ...And probably why they haven’t really invested in more original content? It’s because they’ve all bombed, they’re expensive, and no other network wants to pick them up. Also the WWE Network isn’t going to be a channel anytime soon, as they originally wanted. The Network is a channel in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 It is a channel in Canada, but it's as a streaming app that most of its business gets done. I forgot Camp WWE back in the early days of the Network. Mix South Park with Brickleberry and somehow make it shittier than either of those shows, and you got Camp WWE. I was too busy watching old WCW shows and NXT to do more than watch six minutes of one episode, but man, was it an awful six minutes. Speaking of NXT and kids shows, does NXT Kids still exist? Is that a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Jeez, did you guys forget Camp WWE, or that stop motion animated program? All currently featuring extremely outdated rosters. ...And probably why they haven’t really invested in more original content? It’s because they’ve all bombed, they’re expensive, and no other network wants to pick them up. Also the WWE Network isn’t going to be a channel anytime soon, as they originally wanted. TNBC wasn't animated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 15 hours ago, JohnnyJ said: I think about this a lot and how it flies in the face of how WWE does things. A generational talent could get signed tomorrow and he/she would spend the next 6 months to a year sitting in developmental waiting to debut on NXT. Then the next 1-2 years in NXT waiting to get the call. If the fans take to him/her add a year so NXT has someone to headline Takeovers. When they do move up to the main roster, unless the office sees you as a top talent you're lucky to get stuck in 50/50 midcard hell. It's a process that is pointless and actually hurts the chances that the generational talent will ever become anything. It's not just how it flies in the face of WWE doing things, but also: No one ever gets excited about that band in the buzz bin/Find them First bin at CD stores. People may like them, but the really big acts don't spend multiple albums on "they're going to be a big hit one day, trust us..."- they take a new album and take the world by the balls. This ties to wrestling, because as said- to really click as a generational talent: You probably need 1-2 years on the indie scene to catch a bit of buzz. Then, the 6 months to a year in developmental, then 1-2 in NXT, then a year to headline Takeover, then the main roster...and by main roster time, even the guys the office think will become something usually will take about 3 years to get to the main event...IF they're lucky, and IF they see you as a main eventer. With all of those things, what should have taken "3 years for a meteoric rise to take the world by the short hairs and run roughshod" is suddenly an 8 year career, AT LEAST, to get to the top. Keep in mind there that Kofi Kingston was seen as notably big for having an 11 year career to make it to the WWE Title, and it was long enough it seemed like a huge deal there to give the belt to a deserving worker...and you see the problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Burgundy LaRue said: TNBC wasn't animated. They did have an animation block at one point in the 90’s. Captain N, Swamp Thing, and Super Mario World are shows that come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 11 hours ago, RolandTHTG said: Let Brazzers buy the company. They couldn't do worse. something something they know how to book a finish something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: something something they know how to book a finish something The finish is where I usually lose interest. It's all about the workrate in the middle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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