The Viceland Wrestling Documentaries

[Elsalvajeloco]

I've seen bits and pieces of Chris Colt. However, I think a fair amount of that was doing the super bizarre Nazi thing in late era Continental. 

It's definitely one of those "you had to be there" type things. And to be fair, there are plenty of things that were considered fascinating in 90s and 2000s pro wrestling that would be super hard to explain now w/o any type of context. Plus, kayfabe is pretty much dead so you stopping having wrestlers who provided some sense or element of actual danger cause you're in on it.

I think they probably were focusing more on the gay man in super hyper masculine pro wrestling aspect and how he spent his time as a wrestler making people uncomfortable who probably would've been uncomfortable with his out of the ring lifestyle. From that perspective, it kinda makes sense.

[Curt McGirt]

I immediately thought of Big E when the "masculine men" thing was quoted on air. Right now I'm thinking about him saying it in that voice and laughing his ass off with everyone.

[zendragon]

I think we are kinda burying the lead... Hulk Hogan's mother sent photos of him to a gay magazine

[Curt McGirt]

What?! Did they say that? That happened? 

[zendragon]

I recall the porno guy said it when he said when hogan would wrestle in the cow palace it was filled with gay men

[Cobra Commander]

He sorta went beyond that to reference AIDS and gay men with AIDS looking up to muscular wrestlers who are the sort of invincible people that they aren’t due to their disease.

There might be a bit of a “how did I make it through this” feeling with some people in that scene. Like how the director alluded to how many of his stars ended up dead. Having that many people you know ending up dead young almost certainly has an effect on someone. Maybe to the point where after so many people it just stops having the same effect.

[Cobra Commander]

the Royals game for tonight has been postponed but i'm inclined to not cancel the recording just in case I forget to tune in

[Cobra Commander]

not sure what Chris Adams was expecting from being in WCW in 1998, like 7 years after his last big run. If he only knew that he could have gravy-trained off of Austin in 1998 (he was in WCW at the end of 97)

Booray is an amazingly Southern nickname

Chris Adams and Steve Austin had similar tastes in women

I thought Missy was in this episode only to find out it was Jeannie

DSOTR really expended their "glowing red eyes" budget on this one

[odessasteps]

I had to look the other day to see when Toni died (2010) so she wouldn’t likely be in any new interviews they showed. 

[Greggulator]

The Chris Adams episode is DARK. An extensive interview with the dude who shot him (Boo Ray.) A ton of wild interviews with Lady Blossom (the former Mrs. Steve Austin) and Iceman King Parsons, too. 

[odessasteps]

Am I remebering right, that Steve Austin adopted the daughter that Jeannie had with Chris Adams? 

[Cobra Commander]

2 hours ago, odessasteps said:

Am I remebering right, that Steve Austin adopted the daughter that Jeannie had with Chris Adams? 

Wikipedia says Austin adopted Jade (who was all over this episode)

Jade was also married to the late Adam Windsor, which I didn’t know.

[odessasteps]

I haven’t watched it yet, so I was wondering if she was in it. 

[hammerva]

While I understand why they didn't include it, it would have been cool if they also mentioned that Chris was pretending to be blind while Gino died and the infamous "two tragedies" comment from Bill Mercer

Also if you need anymore proof about how much control the Von Erichs had over that state,  you have all these World Class guys in a hotel room or rooms filled with hookers, illegal pills, and mounds of cocaine AND THE COPS WERE AT THE FRONT DOOR doing nothing

Not sure why they made a big deal about how much control he had over the Austin feud in 1990.  I mean no shit Austin had maybe 3 months of experience at the time and nobody was taking booking advice from Toni Adams and Jeannie Clark.  It is pretty awkward that most of the horrible things that Jeannie said and did to Toni were at the complete direction of Chris.  No wonder that marriage was rocky

[Cobra Commander]

I have no idea who would have been booking USWA Texas that year

but I suspect Chris’ control over the whole thing was mentioned for how it was sorta Kevin Sullivan-esque, except that Jeannie was never married to Chris

in fact, I don’t think they mentioned Jeannie being married to Billy Jack, did they?

[ka-to]

This episode had the return of a "knocked his eye out" story after a short absence.

[Mister TV]

9 hours ago, hammerva said:

Also if you need anymore proof about how much control the Von Erichs had over that state,  you have all these World Class guys in a hotel room or rooms filled with hookers, illegal pills, and mounds of cocaine AND THE COPS WERE AT THE FRONT DOOR doing nothing

 

That had nothing to do with any type of control the Von Erich’s had, per the Iceman they paid the cops $1,000 each, cops everywhere did and still do things like that. 

[Curt McGirt]

Need to watch this one again. I think the World Class episode might have felt even more extreme despite missing his murder. Good seeing Iceman again!

[odessasteps]

Boy, I loved the Dynamic Duo. And they both get the Dark Side treatment. 
 

I guess they could have included the UWF stuff with Iceman calling him “jail bird.” 

[Curt McGirt]

Chris couldn't have invented the concept of a valet, right? There had to be somebody earlier. If he indeed was as Jeanie said... wow. Of course he does have the superkick and only Michaels could compare. It looks like the snap-slap was on his knee almost, or shin? And the spin is incredible. That's how he could fool 'em. Here's another question. How did Gino manage to be missing for several days without somebody checking? He had to make the shows. 

The thing with the Israel story is they just knock it out of the park on the other show with describing the escape, but the plane story takes its place this time. "FEEL THE POWAH" Time had to be terrifying. He just has that look on his brow normally, where you know not to fuck with this guy before he turns into another famous British Chris...

Spoiler

"You'd get more pussy on accident than you would on purpose." - Iceman King Parsons 

[odessasteps]

Gorgeous George had a valet (male). The Sheik had his wife as Princess ..... (ill add it later.) Moolah started as Slave Girl Moolah, who I think was a valet first.

Gino may have been "suspended" following the blinding angle, which would have allowed him another week to grow out his hair. I'd have to check that.  

Edited April 21, 2024 by odessasteps

[Robert S]

There was a wrestler in the 30ies and 40ies (mostly staying in Ohio) who wrestled under names like Lord Patrick Lansdowne Finnegan who used valets doing proto Gorgeous George stuff like disinfecting the ring mat.

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Edited April 21, 2024 by Robert S

[Curt McGirt]

I knew about the gold bobby pins George threw out but must've forget about the valet, with the old timey hand pump. So it is really one of the oldest gimmicks. 

This might surprise you but (yeah many people here probably know but just in case) Fit Finlay had his wife, Princess Paula, as a manager. And she was a faux Native American as well. 

Edited April 21, 2024 by Curt McGirt

[zendragon]

I've heard Jimmy Garvin claim that he got the idea for Precious from GG having a male valet and she was the first female one

[No Point Stance]

Adrian Street and Miss Linda were paired up long before Garvin and Precious, weren't they?