(BP) Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I couldn't begin to count the number of people over the years we've seen in behind the scenes clips or press material be 100% more charismatic than they appear on television and someone says, "If only ______ was allowed to be like that on the actual shows." Enzo made the most of his spot and got it over, but it only seemed novel because of the way most of the roster is presented now. Disregarding that he's not good in the ring and is apparently a wretched person, I'm still not convinced that this was a lightning in a bottle scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Rick said: Yeah denying Enzo wasn't this charismatic juggernaut hardly seen since the heyday of the attitude era is plain dumb Not sure I'd go THAT far... 2 hours ago, (BP) said: I couldn't begin to count the number of people over the years we've seen in behind the scenes clips or press material be 100% more charismatic than they appear on television and someone says, "If only ______ was allowed to be like that on the actual shows." Enzo made the most of his spot and got it over, but it only seemed novel because of the way most of the roster is presented now. Disregarding that he's not good in the ring and is apparently a wretched person, I'm still not convinced that this was a lightning in a bottle scenario. I entirely agree that there have been any number of talents who can be more charismatic then they've shown. Think of pre-New Day Big E. But the relative infrequency of such who've been able to thrive in WWE's overly-scripted main roster can't be ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathyBoy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 WWE demoted Enzo to 205 Live and gave him a chance to be humble. Dude learned nothing. Dude destroyed his own career within two years. He went from a mega over WWE debut to fired for not informing his company of a police investigation. Good riddance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I'm pretty sure the only living public figures it's still safe to like these days are Terry Crews and Dolly Parton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Tom Hanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 You can't admire someone else or put them on a pedestal like that. It's like Matthew McConaughey says, be your own hero. Man, McConaughey really turned his career around and seems to have a great balanced family life, which is rare for...aww shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, MonteCarl said: Tom Hanks Tom led Ginnifer Goodwin on for a number of years during their affair. He's also an "overly friendly" drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 To the surprise of no one - Mike Johnson said that he has been contacted by 5 indie promoters already wanting Enzo's contact info so they can book him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, RIPPA said: To the surprise of no one - Mike Johnson said that he has been contacted by 5 indie promoters already wanting Enzo's contact info so they can book him The question is "which indies so I know not to buy any of their shows". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Will they book him vs Elgin? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 56 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Will they book him vs Elgin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 when was the last time WWE released a current champion? i can't think of any off the top of my head.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 The closest was Alundra Blayze while she was women's champion in 1995, but I think that was a contract expiration, not an outright release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Cristobal said: Not sure I'd go THAT far... I entirely agree that there have been any number of talents who can be more charismatic then they've shown. Think of pre-New Day Big E. But the relative infrequency of such who've been able to thrive in WWE's overly-scripted main roster can't be ignored. Exchange able with allowed. If you are not supposed to get over on the main roster you get punished. Which makes this whole Enzo and 205 thing even more mind boggling. He went from being buried for being a problem to face of the division and now fired. I would love to know what everyone in the room thinks, not of Enzo, but the whole 205 situation. From the article Rippa posted, this is an indication of NXT and WWE being on two different sheets of paper and not understanding social media. Well, don't get over unless you are told to get over. "Sources indicated that there had been a number of issues previously with Amore's behind the scenes conduct, including the company being unhappy that he had gone on social media to mock Big Cass' legitimate injury when he hadn't been instructed to do so last year as well as the well-known situation in Europe where he was thrown off a tour bus for, allegedly, being loud and not letting talents sleep in the middle of the night even after he was asked repeatedly to quiet down. " Yeah, mocking the injury is wrong but the fact that they mention that you have to have permission stands out to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Making him champ on the afterthought show seems like a good way to keep him visible but keep him far away from anything important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 36 minutes ago, twiztor said: when was the last time WWE released a current champion? i can't think of any off the top of my head.... Would Bret count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, kafkonia said: Making him champ on the afterthought show seems like a good way to keep him visible but keep him far away from anything important. Meltzer thought they put him on 205 to prop up the show while teaching Enzo a lesson by letting his merch sales take a big hit. If that was Vince's intent, that second part didn't work out so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I wonder how many Mayweather tickets worth of legal defense he has saved up enough to afford? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I think y'all are right with both statements. I don't think Enzo was that special but he did have talent on the microphone and it led to pushing a lot of merch. On the other hand, there are dudes like Rusev who are more talented than Enzo, gold on the microphone AND good wrestlers.. and haven't received the same opportunities as Enzo did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Does Janetty count or had he already dropped the IC belt by then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Marty dropped the belt months before he left iirc. Putting aside this horribleness for a second, Enzo is an example of how much WWE missed the boat by getting rid of managers. A guy who is great on the mic, naturally hateable, dripping with charisma, trained but still kinda terrible in the ring? Why the hell wouldn't you try to make him the 21st century Heenan? Not that it matters now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turk128 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 13 hours ago, mattdangerously said: I'm pretty sure the only living public figures it's still safe to like these days are Terry Crews and Dolly Parton. Keanu Reeves; like seriously, I don't remember ever hearing anything bad about his personal life. (... I don't want any of you bursting my bubble!) I can't wait for 3 months down the line for a new epic signing to the Owl Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 WHAT IS N. ZOE AMOROUS DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Look at us, all acting like Enzo's ceiling isnt IWA-MS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I assume the same UK promoters who book Bram will book Enzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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