hammerva Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Sad night for death match and east coast indie fans indeed. Whether it was CZW or IWA MS or GCW he provided some of the more entertaining death matches from about 2008 to 2017. Seemed like a fun loving guy too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonial Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shane said: GCW just tweeted out that Danny Havoc died. Ugh. What a year for...everything. Looking at his Wikipedia and a fan page's Twitter, it appears Havoc's wife died two months ago from what's being described as an undiagnosed heart issue. She was just 27. A GoFundMe drive raised $8500 for Danny and other family members ... https://www.gofundme.com/f/danny-havoc-fundraiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Pittsburgh Indy Main stay Michael Blade also passed away. I'd worked 5-6 shows with him in FSW out here. Always had a smile on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Here’s the tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 8:55 PM, Ryan said: Making fun of someone's shoulder width. What the fucking hell? That has to be more of a cultural thing, but I'm sure there's plenty of equivalents in the US, hell maybe even that. Japan is a strange place. Mocking someone for any sort of "unusual" physical characteristic is considered acceptable behavior. A friend of mine who was a Thalidomide baby (short, deformed arms) spent some time in Japan and was called to his face "Tyrannosaurus Rex" and "Flipper" by some of the local wits. The same sort of talk that will likely get your face caved in here in the West is considered the height of humor in Japan. I don't speak Japanese, but I'm pretty confident in saying that after age slowed him down and he relegated himself to comedy matches the stuff shouted at Giant Baba was hardly complimentary... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 1:52 PM, RolandTHTG said: How do so many on here not see the blatant hypocracy in bemoaning what lead to Hana's suicide, but there's 18 of you piling on SorceressKnight in the same page? What a false equivalence. Bullying a young woman over her appearance is NOT taking umbrage with someone using a suicide to carry on their "fuck the fans" manifesto. Shame on you for even comparing the two. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said: What a false equivalence. Bullying a young woman over her appearance is NOT taking umbrage with someone using a suicide to carry on their "fuck the fans" manifesto. Shame on you for even comparing the two. Bullshit. Plenty of people in that list who are just looking for an excuse to take a cheap shot, and you know it. The cheap shitty "confused" emoji responses are pretty consistent no matter what the topic is. I don't agree with his narrative on it either, I don't particularly care for it, but if it was any other poster, there wouldn't be that many people piling on. Edited June 1, 2020 by RolandTHTG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RolandTHTG said: Bullshit. Plenty of people in that list who are just looking for an excuse to take a cheap shot, and you know it. I don't agree with his narrative on it either, I don't particularly care for it, but if it was any other poster, there wouldn't be that many people piling on. Sorry, but that poster said SEE I TOLD YOU FUCK THE FANS as their first fucking post here in response to the news. Then someone asked that person to please not use this young lady's suicide as another example in their continuing crusade about the fans. That you are choosing to die on this hill tells me that you lack perspective. So don't give me that garbage because the only thing that's bullshit is you coming in here and acting self-righteously about that post or any agreement with it. It's clown shit. And of course people reacted that way to that poster! Everyone knows their M.O., and it's really distasteful to use Hana's suicide in that way. No one said anything rude or cruel, so get outta here comparing the people in this thread to vicious cyberbullies. Edited June 1, 2020 by Smelly McUgly 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Okay. We're taking a day off here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 This thread is about to reopen. Here's my lone warning to everyone. I swear to Christ. There have been protests blocks from my apartment. A vendor at work is being super shitty. I've lost more than one friend to the coronavirus. New York is under curfew and I'm going to sleep to the sounds of helicopters enforcing the curfew. So... I. Am. In. No. Mood. If you feel the need to be a shit head, just know that your time away will be long, if not permanent. There's enough bullshit in this world. Don't add to it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Wasn't Danny Havoc featured on The Wrestlers? He seemed like the nicest dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red is Dead Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 He was on the viceland documentary about his retirement match. Such a shame he's gone. He seemed like an incredibly genuine dude, with love from lots of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Red is Dead said: He was on the viceland documentary about his retirement match. Yep, that was the one. Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagan Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Saw on Twitter that Chris Hyatte passed away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 About 6 weeks ago, he announced he was stopping treatment for congestive heart failure and renal failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Wow, I hadn't thought of that name in almost 20 years. He, CRZ, and Cubsfan were the guys whose recaps I always made sure to read when I was getting back into wrestling in the late 90s. RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 All the blurbs from the new WON Quote A name forgotten in time but a legendary figure during the early boom period of South Korean pro wrestling, Cheon Gyu-Doek, passed away this past week at the age of 88. While pro wrestling hit its television peak in the late 70s in South Korea, it had a major first wave of popularity from 1960 to 1967 with Kim Il (Kintaro Oki),Cheon Gyu-Doek and Yeo Geon-Bu as the top stars. The belief is the first boom came when an impoverished country looked to those three man beating up foreigners and dominating countrymen in black & white television matches as sports heroes. Guy-Doek, who was known as the master of the chop, was one of the top stars of both boom periods and apparently had a famous match against a wild bull. The first wave of popularity faded when a brawl ensued in a match when a Japanese heel evidently would not do a job and a match got out of hand and he was attacked by the local South Koreans for real. The scene led to the revelation that match results were predetermined. This was believed to have been around 1965, and the peak ended shortly after that time. There was a second peak in the 70s with Kim Il holding the International title and drawing monster television ratings, but it ended when Il and Guy-Doek got old and had to retire, while Tiger Toguchi worked more in the U.S. since he had moved there and new stars couldn’t replace them. Really, as big as it was, it was so long ago that almost nobody except really older people even remember it. In fact, in the coverage of Guy-Doek’s death, it was that the son of actor Chun Ho-jin who was a famous wrestler decades ago had passed away. Pro wrestling was never really popular in South Korea at any real level after that point in time, but there was an MMA and K-1 boom shortly after Japan with Choi Hong-man and Yoshihiro Akiyama Florencio Pina who wrestled as Mohawk and Bandido, passed away on 5/21 from cardiac arrest. On May 28, 1993, he was unmasked in a match with Rey Misterio Jr. (the current WWE Rey Mysterio) and then became Mohawk. He also lost a hair match to Black Terry in 2014 Joe Perri, who was a trainer, manager and referee on independent shows in Pennsylvania, passed away on 5/28 due to cancer at the age of 61. Perri started training under Newton Tattrie (Geto Mongol) in the 80s. His life was wrestling as he worked jobs like being a security guard, pizza maker and bus driver that would give him the full weekends off so he could work on independent shows. His son Mike works as a referee under the name Jimmy James. Joe Perri also played figurehead commissioner for area independent Keystone Wrestling and in 2017 was inducted into their Hall of Fame Another Pittsburgh area independent name, Michael Runco Jr., who worked under the name Michael Blade, passed away on 5/31. He was 48. He had worked for nearly three decades on area independent shows, retiring in 2016. He also competed as a bodybuilder in the area. Runco started in the early 90s, having been trained by Charlie Fulton and was a regular for Steel City Wrestling, Pro Wrestling Express, Far North Wrestling and many other groups in Western Pennsylvania Steven Lee Perry, a Florida and Georgia referee on independent shows that used the name Star Stevens in wrestling, passed away on 5/25 at the age of 64. He was a regular for the Florida-based IPW promotion Luis Dasa, a nine-year veteran out of Xalapa, Veracruz, passed away this past week. He was primarily a hardcore wrestler known as Casanova for the DTU promotion Alejandro Gomez, better known as Dragon Chino II, passed away on 6/2 at the age of 55. He wrestled regularly from 1979 to 1993, and was trained by Blue Panther. He worked some for CMLL and UWA. On Facebook he had written about suffering from symptoms that were said to be similar to a COVID-19 patient but there is at this point no official cause of death Other names who have passed away this past week according to The Cubs Fans site were Indio Yoko and Cinico, who if it is the Cinico that I’m aware of, would be 36 and has been around since 1995 and was working for The Crash of in 2013 and 2014. Evidently he once worked under the name Exotico Pena as a knock of Antonio Pena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Hyatte's brand of snark and humor was really appealing to a teenager in the late 90s, especially as the Monday Night Wars started to go off the rails. I'd say he was a big part of my wrestling fandom for a couple of years in high school especially right as I was finding this place and learned to, you know, appreciate Meng and other important things. So the period right before that. Time seemed so much compressed back then, so someone being a daily or weekly read and something you associated with, even for a relatively short period of time, felt hugely important. I haven't thought about that time of my fandom for a while though. You don't really want to look back on 17 two decades later. It's hard to do without cringing too much. Anyway, he sounds like he went out on his terms, given the situation, and was at peace with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Hagan said: Saw on Twitter that Chris Hyatte passed away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 1:24 PM, OSJ said: Japan is a strange place. Mocking someone for any sort of "unusual" physical characteristic is considered acceptable behavior. A friend of mine who was a Thalidomide baby (short, deformed arms) spent some time in Japan and was called to his face "Tyrannosaurus Rex" and "Flipper" by some of the local wits. The same sort of talk that will likely get your face caved in here in the West is considered the height of humor in Japan. I don't speak Japanese, but I'm pretty confident in saying that after age slowed him down and he relegated himself to comedy matches the stuff shouted at Giant Baba was hardly complimentary... While it's true that Japan has a backwards attitudes towards anyone who is different, it is not considered acceptable behavior to make fun of people with disabilities. Nor is the height of humor. There is fear and shame, and discrimination, but it is wrong to suggest there is open mockery of marginalized folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eivion Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Thought this was an interesting thread going over the funeral. Apparently the wrestler Fuminori Abe is a legit Buddhist Priest and performed the ceremony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul sosnowski Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Bill Apter and Adam Pearce are reporting that "Rubberman" Johnny Walker, aka Mr. Wrestling II has died at the age of 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, paul sosnowski said: Bill Apter and Adam Pearce are reporting that "Rubberman" Johnny Walker, aka Mr. Wrestling II has died at the age of 85 NWA has confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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