The Unholy Dragon Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, El Dragon said: May I just note as a member of the Seth Rollins is awful round circle, he was pretty good yesterday. No real WTF leg sell moments. It was Joes match, but Rollins didn't ruin it. Yeah. I hate Seth a lot, but when he's not being aggressively dumb he can actually be okay. He was super improved by the WWE system until he got big enough that they let him do what he wanted and it fluctuated between spotty HHH sendup, spotty Tanahashi ripoff, and just spotty dickhead. It's way more frustrating since he *can* be a lot of fun when he's not being an idiot. Anyway, tonight he wasn't an idiot and that match was a lot of fun. And credit where it's due, that was one of the better selljobs a guy can have when he's gotta do flying spots following kneework. EDIT TO CLARIFY: Knee story makes sense because of how central the injury was to the feud, Seth was always gonna have to blow it off at times for parts of his offense to work but he mostly did a good job making it look like bursts of fighting through pain rather than ignoring it. And while that sometimes meant going for a pin *then* selling, it kept the nearfalls hot without burying Joe for having more time to recover and still nearly losing. Basically the points at which his selling got spotty were necessary to the match and he legit handled it very well and ugh defending Seth feels gross but if I can't acknowledge when he's done well I'm no better than the dudes who think Roman can't wrestle. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 But he used Finn's finisher as a transition move/ hope spot last night. Kinda dickish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Changing up KO's entrance graphic and getting new gear made seems to be a page out of the debut new AJ/Jericho shirts right before Jericho turns playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I'm at the stage where I actively avoid Rollins matches. The HHH match had him trying to build a match around selling and it was pretty crummy. While I fully believe the Joe match was good, I think I'm going to stay away until @El Dragon says that Rollins was good for three matches in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 minute ago, JonnyLaw said: Changing up KO's entrance graphic and getting new gear made seems to be a page out of the debut new AJ/Jericho shirts right before Jericho turns playbook. Eh, I'll still buy it. I need a shirt for July 4th anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Dolfan in NYC said: You guys are all missing the big story. We're (ostensibly) getting Jericho-AJ in two weeks. That tired match-up again that didn't work the first time instead of Styles/Owens. *sad hitchhiker theme from The Incredible Hulk tv show plays* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 BTW - just an FYI That isn't New Japan's real Twitter account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 /buzzkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, nate said: But he used Finn's finisher as a transition move/ hope spot last night. Kinda dickish. What move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The Sling Blade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 minute ago, nate said: The Sling Blade. When was that ever his finisher? It was a transition move for Tanahashi in NJPW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The Sling Blade isn't Finn's finisher. It's a signature move/transition move for him too. Finn's finishers are the Coup de Grace and whatever Finn calls Bloody Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I think they went into House of Horrors knowing it wasn't going to win any Match of the Year awards. They wanted it to be a bit ridiculous. As a one off idea, it was mildly amusing. The deliberately cheesy horror movie music in the background made me smile. It might be better if you see the whole match as a spoof of scary movies, I dunno. Orton as he cautiously approached that house seemed like every 'final girl' character ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 14 hours ago, nofuture said: Since it pinned Orton, is the refrigerator the linear champion now? But it will get no heat. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Craig H said: The Sling Blade isn't Finn's finisher. It's a signature move/transition move for him too. Finn's finishers are the Coup de Grace and whatever Finn calls Bloody Sunday. 21 minutes ago, Eivion said: When was that ever his finisher? It was a transition move for Tanahashi in NJPW. I just know that the announce team made a big deal of him hitting the Sling Blade on Miz, so I just assumed he was using it now (since those kind of things usually end with the face hitting their finisher). I figured he might've changed his game up since returning from the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Nope. Still the CDG and then the Bloody Sunday is his "ultimate" finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The Bloody Sunday is "1916" now. I last remember him hitting it on Owens during their NXT title match in Japan, where the crowd would of course respond to the move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I thought he used it on Seth in the championship match too...I'm likely not remembering that correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 That was the best I've seen Aries look in WWE so far, and Neville has been excellent as the heel ace of 205 . Totally unprofessional kick by Sheamus that knocked Jeff's tooth out. The Hardys could have a good tag match in their sleep at this point, and Cersaro was a beast this match. Too bad we'll have to wait on that Revival/Hardys match. The fact they cut to the international broadcast teams during Bayley's big hometown entrance should show everyone what the think of her. Alexa's transition forearm shot was great. I think that was pretty easily Alexa's best match that I've seen. Bayley will most likely be her best opponent, and the match layout here was really good. Now can I get some Sasha vs Emma matches instead of them doing nothing? Overproduction hurt the Bray/Orton stuff. They had a decent brawl, but the silly production stuff ruined it. I have no interest in Rollins/Joe. Rollins is Rollins, and Joe hasn't had an inspired performance since Dallas Takeover last Mania weekend. How the hell did Roman get cleared for this match he looked like a mummy coming to the ring. Way to put over your medical staff WWE. Roman's opening punch was greatness. Stroman needs better offense. Let him start doing a powerbomb. That was a good performance from Stroman, but a really top notch performance from Reigns. Really good job by Bayley and Roman in elevating two up and coming top heels this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Blue Sam Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The Sling Blade may not be Finn's finisher, but it's still one of his signature moves. If Cena started doing the Drive-By kick regularly, it'd similarly raise eyebrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston Honda Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 15 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said: I don't understand how the house of horrors took place "live" at night when it was still a bright and California sunshine-y 80 degrees.. Bray planned for everything. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Sugar Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Just watched the pre-show...well, I half watched the tag match but did watch the entire Miz TV segment. Miz and Maryse are on fire right now: their snide impersonations of Balor were amazing...but my favorite part had to be Finn politely asking Maryse to move, right before he kicked the shit out of her husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unholy Dragon Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, Sky Blue Sam said: The Sling Blade may not be Finn's finisher, but it's still one of his signature moves. If Cena started doing the Drive-By kick regularly, it'd similarly raise eyebrows Seth was doing the Sling Blade semi-regularly in his title run two years ago when he first started aping Tanahashi. He's been using it on the main roster almost as long as Finn has been in the company. If anything this is the problem with so many IWC raised indie guys coming in. A lot of overlap in signature offense. EDIT: A quick Google found a Squared Circle thread saying he cribbed it from JTG (first to use it in WWE apparently) from 2014 during the Shield/Wyatts feud. So Seth has officially been using it since before Finn was signed. Also STOP MAKING ME DEFEND SETH. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Alvarez has some buttery-smooth hot takes on Sheamus kicking the fuck out of Jeff Hardy's mouth: Quote "Jeff Hardy was not moving. He was not crawling. He was absolutely, positively as still as could be. He sat up and he gave himself to his opponent to kick him. Sheamus had a non-moving target. All he had to do was kick him in the chest, the shoulder or whatever. This fucking guy kicks Jeff Hardy right in the fucking mouth and knocks his tooth out. Number one: How you can be that bad at your job is hard to fathom. Number two: Jeff wasn't moving a fucking muscle. This guy kicked him in the mouth and knocked his tooth out. If this would have been the first time, fine. No - Sheamus is the guy who ended the career of Daniel Bryan! How? Well, Daniel Bryan was laying there, giving the guy his head, Sheamus booted him as hard as he fucking could, gave him a concussion and that was the end of Daniel Bryan's career! You fucking suck at your job! I would NEVER wrestle you! In a thousand years, for no amount of money, would I wrestle Sheamus. I have no respect for him as a worker. I would not hire him. Quite frankly, if it were my company I'd fire him! I'd go, 'Head out there, get on the indy scene and practice because you suck, and if you get better you can come back.' Can we fucking - stop - hurting people?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Sugar Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 There seems to be a double-standard with Sheamus: if he boots the fuck out of Enzo's skull, everyone laughs and cheers...but kicking Hardy in the face "a little" too hard is wrong? Come on... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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