Fallacy! Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Re: One World Champion for both brands. Love it in theory. Reality is I don't see how it would work and make it feel organic. Is the champ mandated to bounce between brands each month for a different title defense? I prefer Seth Rollins being back to fight for the title because he and Reigns hate each other, and he feels he's the real champion since he never lost the title, as opposed to Seth Rollins is the top contender on Smackdown, and Reigns just beat a RAW guy, so now he gets a title shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James F'n X Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Charlie M. said: I haven't read the thread yet but I bet they're going to use this as a way to split Big E off from the New Day. They've been putting Xavier over more as a wrestler lately because I'm guessing they'll keep him and Kofi together. Pretty sure if they split up New Day they are pants on head dumb. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebreaker Chip Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 New Day should count as a single draft pick; at no point should anybody on WWE TV even momentarily be seen to question the logic of this 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Da Meltz reporting 2 separate World titles. Looking at all available top talent outside of the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Notes from the WOR breaking news audio - Aggressive pursuit of talent to fill both rosters AND NXT especially to help with touring - Guys who used to be "marginal" in the WWE's (in settings outside of the WWE) eyes just had their value go up (definitely in Japan, somewhat in Mexico and any US guy with a contract expiring) - Most likely there will be Monday house shows again for Smackdown brand - Almost virtual lock that Cena and Reigns will be the top two guys split between the shows - "Probably will have 2 World Champions. That is at least the plan for right now" (Dave said this was the one thing that almost everyone in the company he talked to was positive would happen) - Women's situation no one knows, hasn't been addressed (Dave stated he would be shocked if the women were only on one brand but anything could happen. If they are only one show - it will be RAW) - US Title on one. IC Title on other Dave went on a TNA/UFC Sale tangent so I will end this post and start another 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Von Erich Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 I would love to see a women's tag title as long as there are old school tag teams and not just two women thrown together. I want the women's equivalent to the Major Brothers or Los Matadors. This would also be a great time for a six-man title, but that is not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 TNA is trying to re-sign its top four guys (Hardys, Galloway and Lashley) but all have been holding off signing (this could be the reason why) One guy has an offer from TNA for money that is WAY higher than you would expect but they haven't signed yet because they don't want to give TNA full control (TNA is trying to sign the top folks to long term exclusive deals) At least half dozen guys that the WWE would now consider signing from TNA because they (WWE) need main roster talent Does TNA move? Historically they get killed by the WWE If Dave ran POP - would keep Impact where it is until at least Sept. Hope that these 2 million people watching Smackdown will switch to TNA for the 2nd hour and that would end up being a net gain from TNA (though most likely that wouldn't work) Of course all of that is under the assumption that TNA gets sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 To all WWE tag teams: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyanide Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I was watching Kassius Ohno stuff from NXT and some of his more recent stuff in NOAH yesterday and was wondering what the odds were of Hero ever getting a second look by the WWE... Anyone have thoughts on who some of top targets might actually be (aside from the top TNA guys Rippa listed, and presumably the Roode/Ibushi/Ricochet 'matter of time' category guys)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Aw crap, they're going to poach (and duly misuse) Rush. I was watching Kassius Ohno stuff from NXT and some of his more recent stuff in NOAH yesterday and was wondering what the odds were of Hero ever getting a second look by the WWE... Anyone have thoughts on who some of top targets might actually be (aside from the top TNA guys Rippa listed, and presumably the Roode/Ibushi/Ricochet 'matter of time' category guys)? They could anchor a tag division with Owens/Ohno for a couple of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 If you're really trying to get the women over as a draw and not treat them as a novelty, you should have Charlotte/Women's Champ be the #1 pick and have that title 'headline' the brand with Cena supporting as the US Champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammo~! Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I wouldn't want Ownes in a tag, he's got a lot more legs as a singles competitor in the upper midcard. Though, with a second world title we get the Mark Henry/Christian scenario of a world title being a participation award for guys like Owens/Zayn/Cesaro/Ambrose etc who could become Smackdown world champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 They should bring back EC3 as a new character..........T3- Ted Turner The Third. He can try to restore the legacy of his great grand papi, and Vince can job him mercilessly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, Charlie M. said: If you're really trying to get the women over as a draw and not treat them as a novelty, you should have Charlotte/Women's Champ be the #1 pick and have that title 'headline' the brand with Cena supporting as the US Champ. That's great and all, but I can kind of see them leading with the women for the sole reason that, once it fails, it'd give Vince and Dunn the ammo to go back to a status quo they're more "comfortable" with. Maybe I'm jaded though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Alvarez is saying the Draft will likely be July 11 in Detroit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, Matt D said: That's great and all, but I can kind of see them leading with the women for the sole reason that, once it fails, it'd give Vince and Dunn the ammo to go back to a status quo they're more "comfortable" with. Maybe I'm jaded though. Of course, they'll never even give it a chance to fail. The only small hope is that Charlotte on a brand run by HHH would be as protected as probably any woman ever from those types of politics. I still don't really even see HHH being that open to it given how he still generally has Bayley below Balor in NXT even though she's clearly a much bigger star to that audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BReal Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Seems like it could be a great time to be Cedric Alexander or anyone in EVOLVE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Just now, BReal said: Seems like it could be a great time to be Cedric Alexander or anyone in EVOLVE... He wasn't even in over in ROH... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I like both moves. I'm kind of hoping they put most of the acts I like on Smackdown. They need to make new stars, and I think having two sets of main event talent is better. Guys like Rusev, Bray, Zayn, AJ, Cass and Enzo etc could really break out if given proper top level pushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 This opens up the door for Rusev to win a World Championship. Nothing else matters. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, RIPPA said: - Almost virtual lock that Cena and Reigns will be the top two guys split between the show This is the most discouraging note, imo. I mean I know it's probably going to be the case anyway, but this just really hammers home the fact that it's going to be 2 current Raws, not current Raw plus a more flexible, experimental product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Go2Sleep said: This is the most discouraging note, imo. I mean I know it's probably going to be the case anyway, but this just really hammers home the fact that it's going to be 2 current Raws, not current Raw plus a more flexible, experimental product. Eh makes sense to have your two best big-match workers on different shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 14 minutes ago, caley said: Eh makes sense to have your two best big-match workers on different shows. They already have AJ and Nakamura on different shows. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 18 minutes ago, caley said: Eh makes sense to have your two best big-match workers on different shows. I didn't see anything about which shows Zayn and Nakamura would be on... #kiddingnotkidding (edit, come on JCM!!) On a more serious note, I'm not being obtuse, I get why they're doing it. Cena is the ultimate safety valve, and they see Roman as a future Cena-level guy. It's just disappointing since they work exactly the same and are booked exactly the same. The only real appeal to a brand split is uniqueness between the shows, but if both aces are essentially the same guy, it undermines that a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, Go2Sleep said: I didn't see anything about which shows Zayn and Nakamura would be on... #kiddingnotkidding (edit, come on JCM!!) Zayn and Sasha deserve to be in the conversation. Though Sasha has only had the chance to work one big match(which was a homerun) on the MR while Sami will need to be built up a little more. I'm really exited to see who will step up with new top of the card spots opening up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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