RIPPA Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 DOLPH ZIGGLER http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3reic1_rusev-vs-dolph-ziggler-summerslam-2015_sport vs. Rusev vs. Daniel Bryan SAMI ZAYN http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qhvak_wwe-raw-john-cena-vs-sami-zayn-us-championship-full-match-hq-video_sport vs. John Cena* http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3nv342_wwe-nxt-20-01-16-adam-rose-vs-sami-zayn_sport vs. Adam Rose * - denotes 1001 Matches selection
SirFozzie Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I assume we're stake-heading anyone who votes for Ziggler non-ironically? 2
RIPPA Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 No - but this is one of those matches were I could see people not needing as long to decide where their vote was going
NikoBaltimore Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 The only case I can make against Sami is that he wasn't around nearly as much as Dolph was considering the injury. That said, he's had a great comeback so far and the recent match with Joe should pretty much seal his victory. I want to like Dolph, he's seemed to at least give a shit. But no way would I pick him. That, and yes I'm definitely getting the easy matchup out of the way.
J.T. Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Fuck you, Rippa. I am doing my best to hate Ziggler and you would have to pick the two matches where Ziggler seemed to actually care about pro wrestling. The Sami / Cena match is fucking aces and Sami is fucking aces, but the Ziggler / Rusev and the Ziggler / Bryan matches are about a lot more than just Rusev and Bryan being awesome. I'm voting for Zayn, but yeah, Dolph Michaels the Superkicking Heartbreak Overachiever is the best incarnation of Ziggler since he entered the fed. I take off massive cool points for the 1980's jean vest ring attire. Who the fuck listens to Winger anymore?
supremebve Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I think Dolph gets treated unfairly sometimes. He's one of those guys who has been yo-yo'd so much he just doesn't know what to do. I don't understand why anyone would vote for him in this match up though.
Tromatagon Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Remember when Dolph had a patch that said "MEGADEATH" and then stooged the person who made the jacket when everyone called him out for being a poser? 6
The Man Known as Dan Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 The kind of sad thing is that Dolph has actually had some pretty good performances and matches when nobody was paying attention. His Triple Threat with Ambrose and Breeze on Smackdown a few months ago was a really good triple threat with a lot of really clever spots, but nobody really remembers it. Though, overall, the frustration outweighs the good stuff. Even out 8 months, Sami has enough here.
SorceressKnight Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 On the one hand, Zayn missed most of the year with an injury (but had a few good matches in the time period even with it.) On the other, Dolph Ziggler managed to go beneath "negative Value Over Developmental", beneath "negative Value Over Random Shindy Performer", and went to "Dolph Ziggler was more of a net negative to programming than if WWE just put some random fan in the crowd in the ring for each of these matches." Zayn not only wins this, I would literally vote for any person in this thread posting for having a better year of professional wrestling than Dolph Ziggler did. 3
Jrag Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I can't wait for a solid chunk of the Sami voters to turn around and cry about quantity in other matchups. I will be keeping track. But yeah, Sami. Although he is clearly NOT back just yet. Dude has been underwhelming to me post-injury, but I understand that it takes time to round back into form. In that sense it was really smart of NXT to pair him with Joe and .
Jiji Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I loved the post-mania match Ziggler had with Bryan but he's Dolph Ziggler and now he's Dolph Ziggler clearly going through the motions.
Charlie M. Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I think Ziggler wrestles the way he does at this point because he's "over it" as he says. There was a window for him to be a huge star and they dropped the ball. That's gone and it's never coming back so he's just in this mode where if you criticize him for something, he's going to do it twice as much just to amuse himself. In some ways, I can appreciate that but it doesn't make for the best matches. It's a bad sign that he does a promo asking Miz what he's done in the last 5 years and I'm left asking myself, "What have you done?"
J.H. Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Ziggler's time was is long past me giving a shit about him, hell I'm almost offended he's in this. Zayn gets my vote and that's taking into account he worked 3/4 less of the year than Ziggler did. Zayn's 10 most recent matches stand out more than a whole year of Ziggler's. That speaks volumes James 1
Matt D Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 So how many of us have to vote against DEAN to win? Is he a superdelegate? 2
ChrisM Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 LOL Poor Dolph. Maybe he should have taken Brazzers up on their offer.
Matt D Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I think there's actually something interesting to be said about the divergence of the wrestling tastes of Pete, TomK, the two Phils, and DEAN over the years, with Rippa in a more centrist position. I always wish I leaned a little more towards the DEAN side of things because there's such a pure enjoyment of wrestling there.
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 This is one where we all say something nice about Dolph and then vote for Sami.
Tromatagon Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 The nice thing I will say about Dolph is that at least he's not Sheamus
JRGoldman Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Sami could have been hurt for 12 months and I would have voted for him, because having no positive impact is still better than Ziggler's net negative. I would have voted for Randy Orton over Ziggler.
cubbymark Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I would have voted for Randy Orton over Ziggler. Let's not go overboard, here.
J.T. Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I would have voted for Randy Orton over Ziggler. Oh, I don't know about that shit.
JRGoldman Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I stand by it. Randy Orton wasn't on my television that much this year. Dolph Ziggler was actively being shitty on my television seemingly weekly. Fucking constantly.
Goodear Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 The nice thing I will say about Dolph is that at least he's not Sheamus Right, Sheamus actually got Roman Reigns over for at least a night. Dolph actively destroyed one of the most over people on the roster. And Rusev too! 1
DreamBroken Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I hate Zayn. Aware I'm the only one in existence. I regularly enjoy Ziggler these days. Aware I'm one of a very very few. He had no chance regardless but Ziggler/Owens, 12/7/15 RAW is one of my favorite matches of his from the time. Enjoyed the Ambrose tournament match 11/16/15 RAW Remember liking one of the Sheamus PPV matches a lot, I think Payback. Usually look forward to his longer matches on any given Raw.
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