MORELOCK Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 It's not *that* surprising that people wouldn't know who Liger is. NXT fans aren't necessarily puro fans, and his only exposure to a national audience in the US is those few short runs/appearances in WCW in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 BTW - Outside from the Liger thing The thing that has me most excited from the tapings is that the yet again are teasing Owens vs. Regal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 It's like someone who started watching post-Attitude era saying "Who's Harley Race?" A little different in that Liger's never stopped wrestling, but it makes sense that someone wouldn't know who he is, or why this is kind of a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 With NJPW burning the candle at both ends, it's seriously making me wonder if ROH might not say "screw it" and push up the start time for their show so fans can make both events. That would make for two amazing crowds instead of two half-ish houses. Also guessing this leads to Liger getting into the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeball Wizard Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 It's like someone who started watching post-Attitude era saying "Who's Harley Race?" A little different in that Liger's never stopped wrestling, but it makes sense that someone wouldn't know who he is, or why this is kind of a big deal. My first exposure to Harley Race was as a Survivor Series teammate of Andre the Giant, Mr Perfect etc. I remember wondering aloud "This guy is king?!" Ah, the naivety of youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 It's like someone who started watching post-Attitude era saying "Who's Harley Race?" A little different in that Liger's never stopped wrestling, but it makes sense that someone wouldn't know who he is, or why this is kind of a big deal. There are WWE superfans on this very board who will tell you they never watched a KENTA match or a Kevin Steen match or a Prince Devitt match before they were signed. So yeah, it's not surprising the NXT crowd only knows who is put in front of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Though to be fair - there is a difference of "never watching a match" and "not knowing them" Like most folks on this board I think would at least know say KENTA or Devitt's name. However - yeah - I don't expect a group of college age students who only watched the WWE during the Attitude era to know Liger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Harley Race is still king. Long may He reign. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Even with NJPW gaining popularity here, it's still the same that it's always been with puro. Fans here will cherry pick the matches with the big names. 10+ years ago, they were only watching KENTA, Marufuji, and Kobashi. Now they are checking out Okada, Nakamura and Tanahashi. They aren't slogging through a 4 hour show and watching Liger in a meaningless 10 man tag. So yeah, I kinda get how they wouldn't know him. Same reason a ROH fan 10 years ago couldn't pick Kishin Kawabata out of a lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Even with NJPW gaining popularity here, it's still the same that it's always been with puro. Fans here will cherry pick the matches with the big names. 10+ years ago, they were only watching KENTA, Marufuji, and Kobashi. Now they are checking out Okada, Nakamura and Tanahashi. They aren't slogging through a 4 hour show and watching Liger in a meaningless 10 man tag. So yeah, I kinda get how they wouldn't know him. Same reason a ROH fan 10 years ago couldn't pick Kishin Kawabata out of a lineup. And thank god for that. I mean, how else could we feel superior to casual fans if they were somehow able to identify NJPW 2nd match guy #3? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Though to be fair - there is a difference of "never watching a match" and "not knowing them" Like most folks on this board I think would at least know say KENTA or Devitt's name. However - yeah - I don't expect a group of college age students who only watched the WWE during the Attitude era to know Liger. How quickly everyone forgets the Tequila On A Pole match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Went to a mini-show put on by Harley's WLW promotion a few evenings ago and found myself briefly chatting with Harley after the show. He gets around with a walker nowadays, but he still did a spot at the end where he decked Trevor Murdoch. Spent most of the conversation wondering to myself "What do you say to HARLEY RACE?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Went to a mini-show put on by Harley's WLW promotion a few evenings ago and found myself briefly chatting with Harley after the show. He gets around with a walker nowadays, but he still did a spot at the end where he decked Trevor Murdoch. Spent most of the conversation wondering to myself "What do you say to HARLEY RACE?" Open with, "your Majesty..." I'm jealous. He's one of those guys on my list of "famous people I'd actually like to talk to." I've met famous people who I couldn't give two shits about and even less AFTER meeting them so I don't get start struck real easily. Harley would be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I would open with "I'm here to take the damn money." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I wonder if anything can follow the ladies match at Takeover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I wonder if anything can follow the ladies match at Takeover? Why do you think they're bringing in Lyger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Liger-Breeze as the palate-cleanser between the women's title and Owens/Balor? I can dig it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'm guessing Liger/Breeze starts the show and Baron Corbin's match gets slotted between the women and the NXT Championship match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 If/when Bayley wins the NXT Women's Title, her inflatable tube guys had better get their own replica belts painted on them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I want the woman's match last. This is a goodbye to The Four Horsewomen. They have made NXT so incredibly special. That isn't to say that KO et al aren't great. They are. But mainstream wrestling fans have never had anything like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 So, was Meltzer hinting that there's some sort of working relationship brewing between NXT and ROH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Also guessing this leads to Liger getting into the HOF. That would be fine and good and all, but what I really want is a Jushin Liger Funko POP! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 So, was Meltzer hinting that there's some sort of working relationship brewing between NXT and ROH? Wouldn't be a bad idea. The benefits for ROH are obvious, and I don't imagine it'd hurt WWE any if some of the vets like Joe and Rhyno are free to go make an ROH payday when they're not working NXT dates. It'd make NXT a more attractive option for people WWE might want an option on, but don't want to commit to paying full-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I finally got around to watching NXT this week, I didn't realize it was relatively easy to stream, thought I'd have to go download/torrent it neither of which sounded particularly tempting to me. -Samoa Joe has awful music. Like it starts out good, but the middle part sounds like a 'Select-Your-Wrestler' screen from an N64 wrestling video game. Match was so-so. I really wanna be excited for Joe in NXT but it's just sorta "Ehhh". The German guy didn't look bad. -I feel bad for Eva Marie because she's apparently trying to improve and she will have nuclear heat and is trying to play into it but you can tell she just can't. Her voice is not nearly strong enough to talk to the crowd, she has no confidence in it. -Blake/Murphy vs guys was pretty fun. I like the guy who looked like Damien Sandow's brother who calls himself a drifter and apparently has business cards with his name and 'Drifter' on it. He should be signed right away just because of that. Have they ever given Blake or Murphy last names...or first names. If not, I vote for them being known as Blake Murphy and Murphy Blake. That move with Alundra Blaze (I just remembered that's not her name, but I'm not deleting it) afterwards was really great. Personally, I'd make the other guy dye his hair blonde and have them all blonde. -Women's match was great, though I was disappointed that Charlotte's weave just kind of came off, wasn't ripped off during a heated brawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I liked that the Blake & Murphy match ended on a sneaky heel cutoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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