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The commentary team resembles the insufferable political talking heads who show up on the msnbcs/fox news split screens.

If Cole makes a point, no matter of how minor or unimportant the point is, here comes JBL guns blazing to shoot it down and make a point that is the complete opposite.

Most of the points are repetitive (i.e. Do we miss the authority? Did Rollins sell out?) and have nothing to do with the match on TV. So it just amounts to subjecting the audience to dumb conversations you've already heard from people you don't find entertaining.

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Sadly, it's going to take a lot bigger drop before WWE actually makes any real attempt at change.  We can hem and haw about how bad the numbers are all we want, aside from football, it's still the most watched cable show on Mondays.  Aside from Major Crimes on TNT, nothing else is even close.

 

TV and cable numbers are down in general and WWE will use that as an excuse long before they take the "our product is stale and boring" as the reason.

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The current WWE product is pretty stagnant and it seems like they wont be changing it up any time soon.

 

Also what the fuck does stuffing instead of potatoes mean? and why when I wrote stuffing instead of potatoes did it auto correct to stuffing instead of potatoes?

 

EDIT: see what I mean.

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Was thinking about a gimmick and I assume this is the place to ask, but has anyone run with an Incredible Hulk type gimmick before?

The idea being you have this regular guy backstage etc, mild mannered dude trying to be a pro. He's a little skinny but he tries hard dammit.

Then he has a match, he comes to the ring as his normal self. Then the heel would beat the crap out of him. But it's not until the heel cheats that the magic starts, suddenly he gets angry. He doesn't appreciate cheating. He'll start hulking up then all of a sudden the lights go out, a few strobe effects here and there, lights on and it's a big huge roidy fella with torn gear and he goes to town on the heel. Roidy dude kills the heel dead, then the lights come back on and our original guy is back cowering in the corner with his clothes hanging off. He makes the pin for the 123.

Obviously there is a degree of suspension of disbelief required here.

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I don't know, I don't watch TNA.

EDIT: wait isn't that Abyss? That was the same dude. I'm talking about 2 dudes playing essentially the same character, albeit a Jekll and a Hyde type situation.

Mason Ryan may have been good for the monster. He just shows up under dodgy lighting, does 3 moves, doesn't sell or speak and sods off.

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Joesph Parks was awesome. The feud with Bully Ray was great, when they did the contract signing for the Slammiversary match and the crowd was super into it was magical and I like the Slammiversary match. The little things were great, Parks wrestling in a track suit, not having entrance music, holding the chair upside down and The Abyss run in at the end all great touches. I did think the match could have went another five minutes but I really like that match and feud. I even liked the stuff Parks did with Hogan and him gong to OVW to train with Danny Davis was a cool little character trait. Then TNA fucked it all up.

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Joseph Parks/Abyss was one guy. Harms is talking about two guys playing the same character. Like Amazing Red starts the match, gets mad, lights go out, and boom, Crimson is in the ring.

That would be cool. I like the two guys you choice as examples.

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I don't recall anyone literally doing a Jeckyl / Hyde gimmick with two different wrestlers.  A few guys have worked some sort of split personality gimmick.  That's what TNA did with Park.  Park would wrestle like a green, barely trained rookie until he saw blood, at which point he'd revert to Abyss but not remember it later.

 

God, for some reason this is reminding me of some article I saw a while back.  Some WWE writer gave an interview where he discussed rejected gimmicks.  Maria Kannellis supposedly proposed a split personality gimmick to management (good girl/dominatrix, basically).  That would probably have been terrible, even by WWE standards.

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