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kafkonia

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I think I'm going to start a podcast called postmodern chair shot.

 

What the hell is a post modern chair shot anyway? Because hitting the guy over the head is now wrong, doing anything but that is ironic in some sort of way?

 

If they made a storyline about how chairshots to the head are banned by head office, and the whole storyline was based around the two feuding wrestlers cooperating to work in a chairshot to the head in their match without anyone from head office catching on, that could arguably be postmodern. Much like the late-WCW "they'll have to improvise a finish!" faux-shoot bs. An argument could be made that Russo and Ferreira and their whole fascination with "worked shoots" was a debased form of postmodernism.

 

But not here. :)

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Oh shit, I forgot about Hyatte. Always loved his Nitro reviews as a kid. I remember being hyped as fuck when he resurfaced on DOI of all places.

 

When we got a home internet connection in 96 or so RSPW wrestling sites were the first webpages I visited and subscribed to John Petrie's Sloberknocker Central recaps for as long as he did them.  He was a good writer and not pretentious or self-aggrandizing like Hyatte occasionally was.

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Oh shit, I forgot about Hyatte. Always loved his Nitro reviews as a kid. I remember being hyped as fuck when he resurfaced on DOI of all places.

 

When we got a home internet connection in 96 or so RSPW wrestling sites were the first webpages I visited and subscribed to John Petrie's Sloberknocker Central recaps for as long as he did them.  He was a good writer and not pretentious or self-aggrandizing like Hyatte occasionally was.

 

Sloberknocker Central was the first wrestling site I my father found "for me". This was even before WWE launched their own official website. I didn't stay very long nor remember much about it, but I def remember the name "Sloberknocker Central" 

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Oh shit, I forgot about Hyatte. Always loved his Nitro reviews as a kid. I remember being hyped as fuck when he resurfaced on DOI of all places.

 

When we got a home internet connection in 96 or so RSPW wrestling sites were the first webpages I visited and subscribed to John Petrie's Sloberknocker Central recaps for as long as he did them.  He was a good writer and not pretentious or self-aggrandizing like Hyatte occasionally was.

 

 

We didn't get internet until mid-late '97, and even then, I was a little too young to figure all of that out. I really didn't know anything but the official sites until I stumbled on 1wrestling by errantly clicking a banner on the ECW site.

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Sorry if I'm flooding the thread, but I didn't see this posted elsewhere. Via PWSpyware:

 

 

 

TNA REACTION TO HULK WANTING BISCHOFF IN CHARGE OF THE COMPANY
By Mike Johnson on 2013-08-29 11:18:28

As we noted on PWInsider.com, Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff took part in a Q&A in Toronto over the weekend as part of the Fan Expo event. A fan asked Hogan what could finally be done to make TNA successful.

Hogan said that Eric Bischoff "needed to be given the keys to the car" and that, "somebody somewhere" needed to "drop all the resources we need like we had in the WWE and the WWF, whether it be cameras or money or vehicles or advertising" in order for TNA to work "in a perfect world."

In asking around about what TNA's response to the comments were, I was told that a number of people within the company were upset about the statement for several reasons and that there's absolutely heat on the duo for even insinuating that the Carter family wasn't giving TNA proper resources.

As one source noted, no matter how you feel about her, the comments can't be seen as anything but a direct slap in the face to TNA President Dixie Carter, coming from her top paid talent, no less.

"Even if you agreed with Hulk, " said one TNA wrestler that spoke under condition of anomynity, "the way it was said and the way it comes across in that video just completely disrespected Dixie, even if that's not what he meant."

Two, the reality is that to many in the company, Bischoff has been given the keys to the car. From the day he and Hogan came into the company, TNA management has acquiesced to their creative direction and ideas - whether it be talent that was brought in, the removal of the six-sided ring, the failure that came with moving Impact Wrestling to Mondays opposite Raw, leaving the Impact Zone and taking TNA on the road, etc. These were all ideas that came from the Bischoff/Hogan era that TNA agreed to under the auspice of growing the company.

The problem with all that is, as one source noted, there has been no growth in any facet of TNA's domestic business since The Bischoff/Hogan regime began - not in live events, not in ratings, not in licensing - not in any one department or aspect of the promotion.

Instead, the company went on the road and didn't see the estimated revenue that they believed would come with it, forcing them to restructure from the ground up and putting them into a position where they have to be the "evil company" letting Jesse Soresen go and have to be in a position where money is an issue re-signing their original poster boy, AJ Styles. 

At the same time, TNA has paid Hogan a good salary and put Bischoff into a position where he became the conduit and liason between Spike and TNA, even before Dixie Carter, who created and cultivated the relationship between the two sides.

So, the pair continue to reap the rewards of being part of the company while others have lost their jobs, have had their deals restructured for less money and watch as the company continues to, at best, run on a treadmill and at worse, slide backwards.  To put it in layman's terms, TNA is putting out more money to be exactly where they were, or worse, in comparison to before Bischoff/Hogan's regime began.

So, for Hogan to say that TNA should just hand Bischoff a blank check and full power, well, you can imagine how much all that has endeared the duo inside the TNA offices this week, especially when everyone's work and deals have been scrutinized closely in recent months.

A number of people noted that they would be waiting to see what the interaction between the duo and Dixie Carter would be at tonight's taping in Cleveland, the first time Hogan has been at a TNA taping in a month.

"Hulk came across like he pretty much said that the company didn't have anyone strong in charge and Eric was the savior," said the TNA wrestler.  "Well, they've been here years and Eric hasn't saved anyone yet."

Pretty fucking wild given the time I spent browsing the WCW PPV threads on here and PWO while at work today.

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I never get tired of Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald discussing "trapping" 

 

Is that what passes as a hipster these days? A white guy who speaks in a nerdy voice about street shit?

 

Shit I hope not.  If that's what it is, just please don't tell 78% of my low country Intro Psych class that I'm just "frontin'."

 

Edit:  "Frontin'" is still a thing, right?

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Sorry if I'm flooding the thread, but I didn't see this posted elsewhere. Via PWSpyware:

 

 

 

TNA REACTION TO HULK WANTING BISCHOFF IN CHARGE OF THE COMPANY
By Mike Johnson on 2013-08-29 11:18:28

As we noted on PWInsider.com, Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff took part in a Q&A in Toronto over the weekend as part of the Fan Expo event. A fan asked Hogan what could finally be done to make TNA successful.

Hogan said that Eric Bischoff "needed to be given the keys to the car" and that, "somebody somewhere" needed to "drop all the resources we need like we had in the WWE and the WWF, whether it be cameras or money or vehicles or advertising" in order for TNA to work "in a perfect world."

In asking around about what TNA's response to the comments were, I was told that a number of people within the company were upset about the statement for several reasons and that there's absolutely heat on the duo for even insinuating that the Carter family wasn't giving TNA proper resources.

As one source noted, no matter how you feel about her, the comments can't be seen as anything but a direct slap in the face to TNA President Dixie Carter, coming from her top paid talent, no less.

"Even if you agreed with Hulk, " said one TNA wrestler that spoke under condition of anomynity, "the way it was said and the way it comes across in that video just completely disrespected Dixie, even if that's not what he meant."

Two, the reality is that to many in the company, Bischoff has been given the keys to the car. From the day he and Hogan came into the company, TNA management has acquiesced to their creative direction and ideas - whether it be talent that was brought in, the removal of the six-sided ring, the failure that came with moving Impact Wrestling to Mondays opposite Raw, leaving the Impact Zone and taking TNA on the road, etc. These were all ideas that came from the Bischoff/Hogan era that TNA agreed to under the auspice of growing the company.

The problem with all that is, as one source noted, there has been no growth in any facet of TNA's domestic business since The Bischoff/Hogan regime began - not in live events, not in ratings, not in licensing - not in any one department or aspect of the promotion.

Instead, the company went on the road and didn't see the estimated revenue that they believed would come with it, forcing them to restructure from the ground up and putting them into a position where they have to be the "evil company" letting Jesse Soresen go and have to be in a position where money is an issue re-signing their original poster boy, AJ Styles. 

At the same time, TNA has paid Hogan a good salary and put Bischoff into a position where he became the conduit and liason between Spike and TNA, even before Dixie Carter, who created and cultivated the relationship between the two sides.

So, the pair continue to reap the rewards of being part of the company while others have lost their jobs, have had their deals restructured for less money and watch as the company continues to, at best, run on a treadmill and at worse, slide backwards.  To put it in layman's terms, TNA is putting out more money to be exactly where they were, or worse, in comparison to before Bischoff/Hogan's regime began.

So, for Hogan to say that TNA should just hand Bischoff a blank check and full power, well, you can imagine how much all that has endeared the duo inside the TNA offices this week, especially when everyone's work and deals have been scrutinized closely in recent months.

A number of people noted that they would be waiting to see what the interaction between the duo and Dixie Carter would be at tonight's taping in Cleveland, the first time Hogan has been at a TNA taping in a month.

"Hulk came across like he pretty much said that the company didn't have anyone strong in charge and Eric was the savior," said the TNA wrestler.  "Well, they've been here years and Eric hasn't saved anyone yet."

Pretty fucking wild given the time I spent browsing the WCW PPV threads on here and PWO while at work today.

 

She ain't gonna do shit.  This is the same fucking woman who once famously said that if she heard a "Fire Russo" chant at an event again, she'd fire someone else.  She'll me a thousand times more likely to get finger-cuffed by Hogan and Bischoff, with Bischoff's kid filming, in the back of a 'vette that Hogan's kid is driving, while Serge plays Candy Crush in the passenger's seat, before she'll say a cross word to Hogan and Bischoff.

 

And, it's 2013.  When does it get to the point where someone points to Hogan and says, "YOU ... can get the fuck out, because no one cares about you anymore."

 

I'd go out on a limb and say that, if they let AJ Styles go, you might possibly - - and I know it's been said before, but this is the first time I've ever even considered thinking this way, since TNA's birth - - consider that the death knell for the company.  Not the biggest blow, but the signal that it's finally spiraling down the drain.

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I'd go out on a limb and say that, if they let AJ Styles go, you might possibly - - and I know it's been said before, but this is the first time I've ever even considered thinking this way, since TNA's birth - - consider that the death knell for the company.  Not the biggest blow, but the signal that it's finally spiraling down the drain.

 

 

I feel the same way.  AJ's not a megastar and probably has limited value outside of TNA, but he's the closest thing they've ever had to a homegrown babyface ace.  I kinda think the only they let him walk over money is if the end is near.

 

Hogan's just posturing.  Whenever he gets let go or the company really does fold, he'll spin it as a case of him and Bisch not being given the resources to properly get the job done.

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E.J.

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I never get tired of Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald discussing "trapping" 

 

Is that what passes as a hipster these days? A white guy who speaks in a nerdy voice about street shit?

 

You just described 75% of Grantland writers.

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Sorry if I'm flooding the thread, but I didn't see this posted elsewhere. Via PWSpyware:

 

 

 

TNA REACTION TO HULK WANTING BISCHOFF IN CHARGE OF THE COMPANY
By Mike Johnson on 2013-08-29 11:18:28

Pretty fucking wild given the time I spent browsing the WCW PPV threads on here and PWO while at work today.

I didn't think what he said sounded that bad.  Basically, what I think he's trying to say is that if TNA wants to challenge WWE than they're going to have compete on similar financial ground.  It's not that he's complaining about the money Panda is providing, he's basically saying if the goal is to overtake WWE, then they're going to need a lot more money.Now if you were to criticize it on the basis of Hogan basically giving up (And they can't compete unless they're not on equal financial footing and short of Donald Trump waking up tomorrow and going "I want to own a pro wrestling company!", that's NOT going to happen, so he's basically saying "This is as close as it's gonna get..."), then I'm all for it.

 

Personally, I think TNA should just follow the old WCW format: load up the undercard with high-flyers, Mexican wrestlers, Japanese wrestlers, and talented workers who WWE had nothing for, basically give said undercard carte blanche to try to outdo each other, and load up the top of the card with the most well-known ex-WWE/WCW/UFC even ECW guys there are (Moreso than it is now, bring in guys like Piper, Tank Abbott, Shamrock, Steiner, Dreamer, Sabu, Masters, Lashley) and make it a spectacle: garbage brawls, run-ins, cheating, title matches that end in 30 second knockouts etc. etc.  So, you give the fans solid wrestling in the undercard and something to talk about in the main.  So, I mean, one is less likely to complain about Tank Abbott knocking out Tommy Dreamer with a flash punch in the face in the main in 30 seconds or the main being thrown out after Sabu jumps off a balcony and knocks both guys out, if you provided a MOTYC in the undercard with a couple lucha guys going against indy guys.  In short, stop worrying about providing main events with good "work" in it, and just make them memorable with big names.

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Sky Blue Sam

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Now that Martin Stone is working a football hooligan gimmick on NXT, I'd love to see him paired up with Wade Barratt in some form of bruising Brits tagteam.

Wasnt that his gimmick in the UK? When they came to King of Trios, the cartel wore flat caps and came to the ring to Vindaloo.
Sort of, he pretty much always worked as "the Guv'nor" as a London hardman. However on NXT, he went from "here's Danny Burch from the UK" to "here's Danny Burch, West Ham football hooligan. He says a pint and a fight is a good night" so they're pushing that side of his character a bit more.
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