T.Rex-n-effeckx Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 No-one put the wko 100 here. SLL always does a great job of putting this together and worth looking at the lists of reccomended matches and explanations of strengths of performers on the countdown.Dissapointed that Akebono and Atlantis didn't make the 100 and surprised by how high Lesnar placed as he feels like a guy still living off the positive vibes people had from his Cena match. Still wko is always one of the better annual lists and good place to explore things you may have missed in 2013: 100. Adam Cole99. Kevin Steen98. Hiroshi Tanahashi97. James Mason96. Mr. Niebla95. CIMA94. Tama Tonga93. Kota Ibushi92. The Great Sasuke91. Jushin Thunder Liger90. Vangelis89. Jeremy Wyatt88. Necro Butcher87. Adrian Neville86. Chico Che85. Kenou84. Christian83. Jack Swagger82. Meiko Satomura81. Raziel80. Shocker79. Rey Cometa78. Cyrus the Destroyer77. Dean Allmark76. Osamu Nishimura75. Robbie Dynamite74. Yuki Ishikawa73. Damien Wayne72. Ray Mendoza Jr.71. 2 Cold Scorpio70. Arkangel de la Muerte69. Rampage Brown68. Freelance67. Dolph Ziggler66. Sami Callihan65. Titan64. Pierrothito63. Randy Orton62. Cassandro61. Mascara Dorada60. Alexander Otsuka59. Katsuyori Shibata58. Shaun Tempers57. Demus 3:1656. Namajague55. Fujita Jr. Hayato54. Dr. Wagner Jr.53. Barbaro Cavernario52. Yoshiaki Fujiwara51. K.T. Hammil50. Timothy Thatcher49. Jey Uso48. Jimmy Uso47. Kyle Matthews46. "Super Porky" Brazo de Plata45. Villano IV44. Kazushi Sakuraba43. Maximo42. Minoru Suzuki41. Trauma I40. Cody Rhodes39. Guerrero Maya Jr.38. Mike Cruz37. Averno36. El Terrible35. Mark Henry34. Brock Lesnar33. Jun Akiyama32. Kassius Ohno/Chris Hero31. Jinsei Shinzaki30. Sami Zayn29. Black Terry28. C.M. Punk27. Luke Harper26. The Big Show25. Sheamus24. Alberto Del Rio23. Shinsuke Nakamura22. Valiente21. Negro Navarro20. Trauma II19. TAJIRI18. Charles Lucero17. Tomohiro Ishii16. L.A. Park15. Roman Reigns14. Vordell Walker13. Rey Escorpion12. Rey Hechicero11. Dean Ambrose10. William Regal9. Seth Rollins8. John Cena7. Blue Panther6. Virus5. Rush4. Goldust3. Daniel Bryan2. Antonio Cesaro1. Negro Casas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 That's a hell of a top ten right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimoDANK Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Terrible lucha stroking list. No Okada? No Sekimoto? No Okabayashi? No Akira Tozawa? Why is CIMA on here? A lot of people could throw a hundred names at the wall and it would mean just as much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp, broken circa 1988 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 "Wrestling KO finished their list of 100 wrestlers, you won't believe what happens next" actually that's a lie what happens is people show up and go "THIS IS SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION >:| " instead of going "hey wait what's a Rey Hechicero" and enjoying wrestling Oh, or complaining about the lucha renaissance because it's happening at the same time that the majority of New Japan matches aren't total trash since 2003 and are making easily accessible tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Terrible lucha stroking list. No Okada? No Sekimoto? No Okabayashi? No Akira Tozawa? Why is CIMA on here? A lot of people could throw a hundred names at the wall and it would mean just as much. Man, between Star Wars and your home board for the last many years (being here not WKO) not really caring about NJPW, I kind of feel for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 A list i would look up favorably, if i still cared about listmaking. Also, [cheap plug] you can read Matt's Goldust article and steve Sims' Negro Casas in our new issue. Only $5 including s/h. [/cheap plug] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Rex-n-effeckx Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Why is CIMA on here? . Like I said: SLL always does a great job of putting this together and worth looking at the lists of reccomended matches and explanations of strengths of performers on the countdown. "CIMA toned down the stupid US indy shit and worked a bunch of short matches, majority being based around flashy submissions. He looked like he'd have no problem keeping up with some of the better IWRG guys. " Recommended Matches:vs. Masato Yoshino (Dragon Gate, 3/3)vs. K-ness (Dragon Gate, 4/4)w/ A.R. Fox vs. The Young Bucks (DGUSA, 4/6)vs. Akira Tozawa (Dragon Gate, 5/5)w/ Masaaki Mochizuki, Don Fujii, Uhaa Nation, & Ryo Saito vs. YAMATO, BxB Hulk, Masato Yoshino, Naruki Doi, & Jimmy Susumu (Dragon Gate, 7/4)w/ A.R. Fox & Tomahawk T.T. vs. Ricochet & The Young Bucks (DGUSA, 7/27)vs. Chihiro Tominaga (Dragon Gate, 9/12)vs. Masaaki Mochizuki (Dragon Gate, 9/28)vs. Super Shisa (Dragon Gate, 12/7)vs. CIBA (Dragon Gate, 12/27) I've only seen the Super shisa match which is essentially worked ROH Pure Title rules. Haven't followed Dragon's gate in ages, when did the US based dragongate fans turned on CIMA? I thought you folks used to love CIMA, where did the love go? I also don't get the whole not enough Japanese workers complaint. Looking through it looks like there are 11 NJPW workers and an other additional 12 Japanese indy or Noah workers. That's almost a quarter of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Terrible lucha stroking list. Seeing as how Lucha is usually horribly underrepresented in all realms of the IWC, I welcome the Lucha love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKash202 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Rationale behind Tanahashi's ranking? Not trying to start a war. And what is 2 Cold up to these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Rex-n-effeckx Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Rationale behind Tanahashi's ranking? Not trying to start a war. And what is 2 Cold up to these days? I'm not sure why Tanahashi was rated so highly this year. The guy who rated him highest hasn't written anything yet but the guy who rated him poorest wrote: I'm really happy with our boy's ranking. Hiroshi's worked extremely hard over the last few years and has finally cracked the top 100. The Ishii matches, especially the second one, are worth watching as Tanahashi understood his role and even added a few positive things to the match, such as the big slap cutoff Recommended Matches: vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW, 1/4) vs. Karl Anderson (NJPW, 2/10) vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW, 4/7) vs. Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW, 8/2) vs. Davey Boy Smith Jr. (NJPW, 8/3) vs. Hirooki Goto (NJPW, 8/7) vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW, 8/10) vs. Prince Devitt (NJPW, 9/29) vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW, 10/14) vs. Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW, 11/9) w/ Tetsuyo Naito vs. Kazuchika Okada & Shinsuke Nakamura (NJPW, 12/23) Too Cold "Scorpio rarely making tape has to be one of the most frustrating things about pro wrestling. He's a total master, sells perfectly, knows exactly when and how to build to a comeback, he's super charismatic and has some of the most violent offense in pro wrestling - that includes his highspots. The Delaney match was a remarkable carry job. Delaney's a guy who falls into the "annoying indy guy" category yet Scorpio held the match together with some really engaging selling. Also, he made the most basic offense, such as his back elbow in the corner rewind worthy. The way he reversed that one armbar by just casually scooping his opponent off him is also worth checking out. Obviously his match against Cruz was a great heavyweight vs junior heavyweight fight and, unless I'm forgetting something, the US indy match of the year." Recommended Matches: vs. ACH (NPWD, 2/2) vs. Colin Delaney (HRT, 3/2) vs. Marty Jannetty (PWS, 5/18) vs. Mike Cruz (USA Pro, 7/27) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Why is Jimmy Uso ahead of Jey Uso? Is he the one that married Naomi? I guess that's enough of a reason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Rex-n-effeckx Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Terrible lucha stroking list. Seeing as how Lucha is usually horribly underrepresented in all realms of the IWC, I welcome the Lucha love. I wasn't involved with the WKO list but it is always something I look forward to. But again I'm not sure how much lucha love these guys really demonstrate. I mean there were about 11 guys who worked for NJPW in 2013 on this list, 26 who worked for WWE, and 26 who worked for EMLL. That's 11 out of a NJPW roster of about 40, 26 out of a WWE roster of about 90 and 26 out of a EMLL roster of about 240. Lucha may be better represented on the wko 100 then it is on most other internet wrestling discussions. But 1/9th of a roster compared to approximately 1/4 of NJPW and WWE's rosters still suggests that it's still pretty underrepresented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Rex-n-effeckx Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Why is Jimmy Uso ahead of Jey Uso? Is he the one that married Naomi? I guess that's enough of a reason.. Jey is the larger of the two, I'm guessing that there is a general internet bias toward smaller tag partner, guy who sets up bigger partners spots. May also be just that they are always referred to be announcers as "Jimmy and Jey" and so were voted for in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Jey's the smaller one. Also the best one. What I'm saying is, you guys have to do it all over again and get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Terrible shit as usual. *actually looks at list* Oh. I approve! Seriously if you want to go ahead & shit on the list be my guest - I used to make it a yearly thing. But at least open your eyes to Rey Hechicero, Rey Escorpion & if for some reason you haven't yet - Rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I need to see more Valiente. He hasn't come off as better than, let's say Maximo or Harper to me from what I've seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 A very interesting list and one that opens my eyes to several wrestlers that I should be more familiar with. Thanks for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 He's fantastic, don't get me wrong, but did William Regal even wrestle 10 matches in 2013? Is he a road agent these days, I guess? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yea Ishikawa only had five matches and Regal had six that were taped, I guess I don't know what the exact criteria is? Not being cute, legitimately curious, is it just voters ranking their favorite wrestlers? Okada being excluded is surprising, looking at the list I think some of the voters definitely have 'favorites' they vote for regardless (Fujiwara for example can still be fun but I don't consider him in the Top 60 wrestlers in the world currently). Not that that is a criticism, Mutoh would be on my list But I like lists, they are fun to read over to see what other people think. I am surprised Akebono isn't on there, he'd seem like someone that the Mark Henry crowd would like (big wrestler that knows his means and wrestlers within it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Virtue Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yeah Regal kind of stuck out to me, were his matches really THAT great that six of them shot him into the top ten? I loved the Cesaro match, and the Ohno match (that was 2013, yes?) but it feels like they'd put him top ten just because of who he is rather than what he did in the calendar year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.M.B. Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Given the style of wrestlers dominating this list I'm very surprised Yuji Okabayashi isn't even on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 My main complaint about past lists was just that. Guys would make the list based on 1 or 2 matches. There was one year where Shu El Guerrero made the list after appearing in only 1 full match & a clipped match. Never made sense to me. Always figured there should be some sort of criteria for appearences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Except when it comes to Brock because I'd rather watch 2-3 matches from Brock than any number of contests from most of the top 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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