rovert Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Great posts adding a lot the thread. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 It's not just good, it's ROVERT approved! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 For the record, I loved Natalya and Charlotte's match. It's one of the best American women's matches I've seen. It's ok for folks to not enjoy it. They just get to be on the wrong side of the argument this time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I thought it was pretty obvious Charlotte was going face when she hugged Nattie and did the respect angle post-match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Thats disappointing if true that Charlotte is turning face again. It was the heel turn where her potential truly started to show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 It's not just good, it's ROVERT approved! Does that automatically mean we get the Meltzer seal of approval? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 It's not just good, it's ROVERT approved! Does that automatically mean we get the Meltzer seal of approval? Yes. Said seal is Meltzer's face on the Raisin Bran logo, touting "Two Scoops!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraylo187 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 It's not just good, it's ROVERT approved! Does that automatically mean we get the Meltzer seal of approval? Yes. Said seal is Meltzer's face on the Raisin Bran logo, touting "Two Scoops!" But instead of raisins he's just pouring workrate into a bowl. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovert Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 So NXT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKash202 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 F4WOnline.com reports that there are people backstage at WWE who believe the Payback event on Sunday will be a good show because there is no way WWE can let the developmental talent on the NXT Takeover special outshine the main roster on PPV. Or they could start to dumb down the NXT product to ensure it no longer is in a position to overshadow the main roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rob Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 F4WOnline.com reports that there are people backstage at WWE who believe the Payback event on Sunday will be a good show because there is no way WWE can let the developmental talent on the NXT Takeover special outshine the main roster on PPV. Or they could start to dumb down the NXT product to ensure it no longer is in a position to overshadow the main roster. NXT is Triple H's baby, that ain't likely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The random Nattie hate has always been fucking ridiculous. She's not a great worker but she's far from terrible. She's had plenty of "ok" matches and even a couple good ones. That's all you can really ask in a division that gets almost no time to deliver anything memorable. People were putting over AJ title defenses from last year... they were no better than the Nattie/Charlotte match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mco543 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I think a lot of the hate Nattie gets isn't because she stinks. It's because she completely lacks self awareness thinks (as well as her fans) that she's Manami Toyota or Bull Nakano or something. That is a very big reason why Nattie gets so much shit and Total Divas certainly hasn't helped her any in that regard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The random Nattie hate has always been fucking ridiculous. She's not a great worker but she's far from terrible. She's had plenty of "ok" matches and even a couple good ones. That's all you can really ask in a division that gets almost no time to deliver anything memorable. People were putting over AJ title defenses from last year... they were no better than the Nattie/Charlotte match. Really? I remember everyone saying the Nattie/AJ matches were *finally* bring it from the Divas, but come the PPVs.. No one even talked about them here in the PPV threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamal Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I think a lot of the hate Nattie gets isn't because she stinks. It's because she completely lacks self awareness thinks (as well as her fans) that she's Manami Toyota or Bull Nakano or something. That is a very big reason why Nattie gets so much shit and Total Divas certainly hasn't helped her any in that regard. It's sad that people are buying what Total Divas is selling. Away from that show, she has never appeared anything like that. And other Divas have had nothing but good things to say about her behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The thing about Nattie is there's just nothing that comes off as natural about her on screen. She always seems so rigid in the ring, and it always feels like she's thinking about every move for a second or two before she does it. She's fine when she's in there with someone decent, but she can't carry a match on her own (which explains why she looks better on 2014 NXT than 2008-2013 WWE). Also, the internet backlash against ring-work is always amplified if you have any kind of workrate gimmick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The thing about Nattie is there's just nothing that comes off as natural about her on screen. She always seems so rigid in the ring, and it always feels like she's thinking about every move for a second or two before she does it. She's fine when she's in there with someone decent, but she can't carry a match on her own (which explains why she looks better on 2014 NXT than 2008-2013 WWE). Also, the internet backlash against ring-work is always amplified if you have any kind of workrate gimmick. Also, so much of her match on Thursday was just FORCED. Both her and Charlotte would randomly scream or cry out because "THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE INTENSE!" It never seemed very natural. I would argue I enjoyed Nattie's match against AJ on Main Event more, and that was by no means a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I think that it's disingenuous for people to wholesale disregard previous criticisms of Nattie as a lack of watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Being saddled with dumb gimmicks prtob did her no favors either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The thing about Nattie is there's just nothing that comes off as natural about her on screen. She always seems so rigid in the ring, and it always feels like she's thinking about every move for a second or two before she does it. She's fine when she's in there with someone decent, but she can't carry a match on her own (which explains why she looks better on 2014 NXT than 2008-2013 WWE). Also, the internet backlash against ring-work is always amplified if you have any kind of workrate gimmick. I'd say the Charlotte match was 80% Nattie and 20% Charlotte. Now, I think moving forward that Charlotte has the potential to be the best woman in the WWE, but I felt this match was clearly the Nattie show. Yes, they were working from a del Rey blueprint, but Nattie was visibly in charge and guiding the match along. And, besides the Figure-Four stuff, I felt it was a really good match with an intensity that was earned and came across well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLKerAaron Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Holy shit I can't stop laughing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 That baby looks more like Heath Slater doing his "sexy" face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 So I assume that in the relationship Billy Gunn is definitely the bottom since HE'S AN ASS MAN Sorry couldn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 So I assume that in the relationship Billy Gunn is definitely the bottom since HE'S AN ASS MAN Sorry couldn't resist Wouldn't that make him the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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